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Soooo frustrated and confused

I am a single mother of two and I recently got fired from my medical assisting job for having a rude, and combative patient who made a racial slur at me removed from the clinic, and this was after I asked the physician and she told me I could do it!!! I found a much better job in the same field with much better pay and excellent benefits in less than two months, so you are thinking, whats the problem, right? Well the problem is is that the other two medical assistants that are there don't like me because I'm guessing that they think I am too slow and I don't have enough skills to be working there. I will admit that my previous jobs did'nt give me enough experience like it should've done, but I can learn if I am given a fair chance. My original preceptor told the Rn manager that she no longer wanted to precept me because it was frustrating her and she was beginning to have an attitude. The manager then put me with another preceptor after that, but that didn't work out because she totally went off on me in front of a patient talking about I was being combative of all things to say. These girls are being extremely rude and nasty towards me, they don't even speak to me when I come in in the mornings. I have been extremely upbeat and nice to them even though the girls have been nothing but nasty towards me, and now I feel like I am at the end of my rope. I have only been there for four weeks, and I feel so inferior and stupid when I am there. I can't do anything really by myself unless I am assisting with pap smears, or doing an EKG. I get compliments from the patients all of the time about how well I am doing, but I don't feel like everybody that I am working with feels that way. The Rn manager told me that I have to bring my medical assisting textbook to work with me and study, she has told me in front of the other medical assistants that I am lacking a lot of skills and she also told me that she will not be waiting the whole 90 day probationary period to determine if I will stay also in front of the other medical assistants. I feel like such a child when I go to work. I instantly get sick when I pull into the parking lot, my stomach gets all bubbly and feels like its tied into knots, my head starts hurting, and my mouth gets dry instantly. I really need a job because I am not in a posistion to be without a job, but I don't know how much longer I can go on like this. This is an excellent place to work and get experience, but I don't feel confident, and I am always on the edge because the other medical assistants are always pulling me into meetings with the Rn manager and just bringing up every little mistake that I make. I am trying to finish up my pre requisites for nursing and I know that I will have soo much knowledge if I stayed, but I feel so down and depressed, I just don't know what to do. Any advice is more than welcome. Sorry for the extremely long rant.

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Hang in there and do your best. Start looking for another job now. It sounds like you may not have a choice. Learn from these two experiences and look inward to see if your attitude needs a little "tweaking". You'll need a thick skin to be a nurse and sick patients in pain can be mean not to mention stressed staff. Take the "high road" and maintain professionalism when confronting racism or other verbal attacks. Good luck getting into nursing school. You will have gained invaluable experience as an aide as you move through clinicals.

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I thank you for your reply. I have looked inside to see if it was just a problem with my attitude and I haven't seen anything sooo far that I think I need to change as far as that goes. I am very receptive, I try to ask is there anything for me to do instead of just sitting around and looking dumb founded and it just seems like nothing that I do puts me and my efforts in a positive light. I have no problems with dealing with nasty patients because there are a lot of factors influencing their behavior, but I can't deal with nasty, unprofessional co-workers. I am really trying to be mature about this and just think that everybody isn't going to like you so just face it and move on, but it is affecting everything that I do. The job I had before that was just horrible. I worked for a private practice doctor, and she started me off making a lowly 7.00 an hour, and I am a certified medical assistant!!! She offered no benefits, and she was paying under the table. I took the position because I needed more medical assisting experience and I knew that I needed to start somewhere. I worked my way up to being office manager in just 7 months so I know that she felt I was trustworthy and professional. I was cleaning this womans house on the side for extra money for crying out loud. Nobody is going to let you into their home unless they really trust you. She got rid of me because she didn't want the person to come back and try to sue her, and I was named in the suit. The patient did threaten to sue after the police removed him from the premises, and she also didn't want to pay me any more money. She had been promising me a raise and I never got the raise in the time frame that she had promised. So the time came when she could no longer come up with more excuses as to why I couldn't get my raise. I asked for 9.00 dollars an hour, which was also an under payment, and she reluctantly gave it to me, and said that because she was giving me 9.00 dollars an hour she could not afford to pay me over 40 hours a week, which is fraud. I am just tired of not being able to find a good place to work. This is just really getting ridiculous now. I know I am a good worker, but I am tired of being walked and trampled on by uncaring employers. To make matters worse, I feel like I am trapped between a rock and and a hard place because I have two children to clothe and feed.

It seems to me that if the doctor gave you permission to have the patient thrown out, she should have given you a name and number of another doctor to give to the patient.

The doctor can be sued for abandonment.

As for your whole situation, you may be giving off signals that you are not aware of...rolling your eyes or stance....body language is a powerful thing.

It's hard to go into a new practice and not be fully educated, I understand. Try carrying a pocket pad with you and write down things to refer back to later. This will help you remember codes, directions, etc so that you won't have to keep asking the same questions. I found that helped when starting out at new jobs.

Even people who know and love you will say hurtful things, so why expect any less from someone who is ill and doesn't know you at all? Try to ignore any rude comments and make sure you kiss butt to keep a job until you can get through school.

Good luck! :)

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Hi, and thank you for your reply. I think you are a little confused about my post. I am not talking about patients, I don't have a problem with rude patients, only if they are verbally abusive and violent, I don't have to take that. I was talking about the patient in reference to my last job that I got fired from. The patient incident was the reason behind me getting fired. He was being extremely verbally abusive and was in my face and yelling. He was so close that I could smell his breath. He was very threatening. As far as the patient abandonment issue, he was given info on another doctor and a record release form. The job that I am currently on, I make it a point to be very conciencious of my demeanor, posture, and overall attitude because I have been waiting for a good job like this for soo long that I don't want to screw it up. I consider myself to be very timid and careful on the job. One of the problems the preceptor told the RN manager was that I ask to many questions. She said that if I am writing the stuff down, she doesn't understand why I am asking her again what she just went through with me. I call myself just wanting to be sure and just being very careful. I carry around a note pad with me and I write down everything that the other MA's tell me, but to no avail. We had a pt come in straight from the ER s/p MI. She was c/o SOB, tightness in the chest area, heaviness in the chest area, lightheadedness and generalized weakness. She also c/o some brusies that just popped up on here leg and she said that she didn't hit herself on anything. The pt was on coumadin. Anyway the MA ran out the room and obtained a pulse ox on the pt and put it on her, as well as measured the width and the height of the bruises. Her initial assesment of the pt to me was more nursing than medical assisting. I have never been in a situation like that to know that I could do something like that. It has never been in my scope of practice. So because I don't have those skills that they have they look at me like I am an idiot or something. I have broken down and cried on the job in front of the manager and I cry everyday that I go home after work. I want this job to work soo bad, but I don't know what to do and I don't know what I am doing wrong. I am always upbeat and I speak to everyone when I come to work. When I speak to the other MA's, they don't even respond back, so I don't say anything to them anymore. It is just killing my spirit there. I am usually a happy go lucky type of person, but now, I am quite and very unsure of myself. They critisize everything that I do, almost in a way that I feel like they are antagonizing me to leave. I try to be thorough when I am checking the pt in before they see the doctor, and just when I think I am doing good, the MA tells me you are too slow, so you just need to watch me againl. If I ask them to do something for the doctor, they will do it, by slamming stuff around and making it a point to let me know that they have an attitude with me. I don't even know what I can do anymore because if I do something on my own, I get chewed out about it. I just don't know what to do anymore. Sorry about the long rant again.

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:rolleyes: And also fun2care, I like what you said about how people who love and care about you will say mean things so why should I expect more from someone that doesn't even know me. I never thought about it like that!!!! Thanks!!!!

God knows it's not right, but we all know it happens. It hurts so much, but we all need to learn how to brush off anything rude when someone is ill or upset. ;( I think everyone has probably said things that aren't meant at one time or another.

I can understand your situation. My medical assisting education consisted of 9 months. I was fully prepared for injections, EKGs, venipunctures, and I did well with the patients. I also had to deal with the "problem" employees, and patients. Actually in two separate places I had to deal with "on the job trained" assistants. I really think it was a jealousy issue there.

Other places, I dealt with not knowing enough.

I really think I found it easier to fit in a Family practice, and not the specialized practices. If I had stayed working longer, then I probably could have went into a specialized practice more easily. I did work in a Dermatology office, but found it rather boring. I really liked the Family Practice settings the best...more variety. :)

I just say, don't settle for a mediocre work environment. There are better places out there where the employees will be happy to teach you.

Also, if you know you know something, don't continue to ask. You have to step out of your shell and be able to perform on your own. In nursing, you're not going to have someone holding your hand all the time. It is scary, I know, but do the things that you know you can. If you are able to do something as a medical assistant in your practice, and you know how to do it, then show that you are catching on. They won't keep you if you can't show improvement.

Good luck.

Giada, I can really feel for you. I also had very difficult times working my way through pre-reqs toward my dream of becoming an RN. I had a sick toddler and multiple low paying jobs. There were days when I thought I couldn't make it. I did make it through (somehow) and have a healthy son and a great job. You will make it too. Keep your spirits up and your eye on the light at the end of the tunnel. Good luck!!! I'll pray for you.

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Thank you fun2care and sfcardiacrn, your words were very helpful to me. Its nice to know that I am not the only one who has been through a trying period on a new job. I just have to grow a thick skin and just realize that this won't last forever and to just stick it out. If I don't keep the job and for whatever reason they decide to not keep me then it won't be because I gave up and quit. I have been giving them the power to control my emothins and if I don't give them that power anymore, then they can't have me in tears and have me feeling inferior. All I can do is do my best, thats all. I do admit that I need to come out of my shell and start doing the things that I know that I can do on my own. I know that they can't babysit me forever. I just feel so intimidated, and I don't want to do the wrong thing and get chewed out for it. Thanks for everybody's support.

I am so sorry for what you are going through Giada23. Hold your head high and know that you are giving it your best. When your best is not enough, then maybe it was not meant to be. You are in my prayers!

wow giada23 that is stressing! I wish co-workers would remember that everyone is new sometime and need that mentoring to grow to their full capacity. We all don't walk out of school knowing everything. Sometimes we learn things in theory and never have the opportunity to actually do them. If you have already analized your attitude and decided it doesn't need "tweaking", then I suggest you analize the way your co-workers are interpreting your words and actions. Maybe you are merely having a little misunderstanding--what you mean is not how they take it or vice versa. I would stick it out, hold my head high, and seek all the learning opportunities I could. I really think if you work on your communication tactics that this could be resolved. Most tension and frustration is related to misunderstandings in communication. Hang in there Giada.

Missy

You are proof that things do happen for a reason. Don't let the other MA's step on you or get in your way. Do what you have to do. May the Lord be with you.

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Today was by far the worst day ever. I wound up leaving work early for the second time today because of the way things were going. My current preceptor was very rude and hostile today, again. A couple of weeks ago, I came to work and did the things that I usually do at the start of the day. Let me say that they do things very structured there, so there are only some things that I can do and some things that I can't. So, to not just be standing around, I do some incomplete charts, restock the exam rooms, and any other busy work that needs to be done. So, after I got through doing what I was supposed to do and could find nothing else for me to do, I went to my preceptor and I asked her did she have anything else for me to do. She told me no. So I am left to walk around and basically look like a dunder head. My first mistake that day was the fact that I didn't go to the RN manager, and ask her what should I do. Ofcourse the RN manager caught me standing around looking bewildered and she asked me what am I doing just standing around. She brought me to the preceptor, and asked her did she tell me that there was nothing to do. The preceptor said yes she did because there was nothing for me to do which she could think of. Then she says that I could have stamped the refferals, and all this other crap that she could have told me to do when I asked her. So after I was given my assignment, the rn manager said, "Now you should'nt be bored". She asked me by the way prior to stating that I should'nt be standing around was I bored. I shook my head yes, and smiled because I thought she was joking. Okay so today, when the patients started coming in, I asked my preceptor could I vital the next patient. She says, "Yeah go ahead because we would'nt want you to be bored". So I told her that I was not bored. So then she says thats what I told the RN manager. I did'nt say anything else, I took the chart from her and I vitaled the next patient. Then another situation that happened was the doctor walked in on me doing the vitals of another patient and gave me a verbal order to give a patient a dressing wrap. When I came out of the vital room with the patient, I went to the doctor and I pulled out my note pad and asked her to repeat to me what kind of dressing she wanted. The doctor said that my preceptor told her that I was'nt experienced with dressing changes so the preceptor would be doing the procedure. So when I ran back into my preceptor, she asked me why was'nt I getting the supplies, and I told her what the doctor told me. So she told me that I WILL be doing the dressing change and she further stated that how was I going to get the experience if I don't do the procedures. So I went and gathered what I needed, there was some things that I couldnt find so I went back to the preceptor and asked her where the supplies was. So she told me where the supplies where at, she knew that I was'nt experienced with dressing changes and she purposely set me up to fail. She did'nt tell me where to find the dressings at, she didn't tell me how to apply the dressing, or how she wanted the dressing applied or anything. So we went in to the room with the patient and I was asking her step by step how to apply the dressing, when she starts yelling at me in front of the patient. I held my peace and I applied the dressing as best as I could. Unsatisfied with my performance she took the ace wrap and completed the rest of the procedure because I didn't wrap the wrap around the thumb first, excuse me for not being able to perform well in a hostile environment. I then went out and found the RN manager and told her that I needed to talk to her. Actually I went to her before the dressing change incident happened, but my preceptor said to tell the manager that I am doing a dressing change and that I will meet with her after I finish what I am doing. So after the dressing change the manager brought me and the preceptor into the lunchroom. I wasn't allowed to talk, everytime I tried to talk and state my side of the story, I was interrupted. When I tried to explain what was said by the preceptor, it was explained away by the manager as that the preceptor was trying to relay what it was that I was supposed to do. I told her that that was not what happened. I was then told by the manager that I haven't been able to get along with neither one of the preceptors (This is the second one) and something is going to be done about this really soon in front of the other preceptor who was nodding in agreement. I left for my lunch break shortly after that and I told my preceptor that I was leaving and she was like yeah yeah yeah. At that point I left and took all of my belongings, and my lock to my locker because I was actually going to quit. I went home and I called the administrative office and I filed a grievance with them on the manager. I am soo sick of going through this. I have never had a job where there was soo much hostility. The preceptor admitted to the manager in front of me that she was rude and hostile because she felt that I am not catching on at all. How can I catch on or feel confident with you saying demeaning things and being hostile towards me. I don't even know if I am going to work tomorrow, I am soo sick of being treated like the dumb a@# medical assistant. They are very condescending, and now I find out that they are mocking me, and I think they are moving to try to get me out, and try to get me to quit. I really feel like they are antagonising me. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I still can't vital patients by myself because the preceptors claim that I can't take a decent blood pressure. I have been there for one month for crying out loud. I know how to do a blood pressure, I wouldn't have been able to graduate from school if I couldn't take a blood pressure. I am just flat out tired. I am really trying to hold on until after the holidays for my childrens sake, but I don't know if I can. I come home exhausted from work because I have basically walked around upset all day. I just don't know what to do. I have made sure not to stand as if I have an attitude, I have made sure that I talk to them with respect, I know I am doing everything right. Even the patients know how bad the hostility is between me and the preceptors because they always offer words of encouragement. I just don't now what to do. I have a house note to pay and I have two children to raise by myself, I need this job. But I don't want to drive myself into the nut house because of it. I am recovering from major depression from two years ago, and now I find myself falling back into that hole because of this job. I have stress anxiety and performance anxiety. My mouth gets dry, my underarms and the palms of my hands gets sweaty, I am just a ball of nerves when I go to work and it should'nt be that way. I worry when I get home because I know I have to get back up and go in in the morning. I just don't know what to do anymore. Sorry, I know this is a long rant.

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