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Like Dr. Leonard Sax? He's against it the ideology that is transgenderism and he is certainly NOT a nurse! Nobody is trying to convert the patient into someone else's beliefs. Nobody said to inform them that they were delusional.

It's not a matter of how I feel. I'm simply questioning the approach on the subject. Are we not taught as health care providers to not play along with a patient's delusions? That is where I am coming from. And it seems that playing along with their delusions violates the ethic of "Do No Harm" Dr. Leonard Sax in this interview voices his concerns over it.

Who's it hurting you ask? Dr. Jordan Peterson was affected by Bill C16 which is a new law in Canada that will get you a fine if you misgender someone even by accident. I do not in any way try to justify treating people like dirt. I suggest you go back and reread my posts.

Gender nonconformity is being conflated with gender dysphoria though.

I suggest you reread the posts I made I do not try to justify treating anyone like dirt. Dr. Leonard Sax in this interview suggests that feeding into delusions like this is malpractice. "I think a question to really think about is how many people get hurt when you treat people with respect and dignity by using the preferred pronouns and names of a transgender individual?" A lot of people actually. Dr. Jordan Peterson was affected by this a psychology clinician and professor in Canada lost his job for opposing Bill C16 which declares that if you misgender someone even on accident you will get fined. I highly suggest you read my posts again I acknowledge that gender dysphoria is an issue and pity people that have it.

My apologies that is a dated word but the only thing I could think of regarding the classic "born with both parts"

Because people/parents/doctors will think it is dysphoria in kids now. What Is Gender Dysphoria? About The Show - I Am Jazz | TLC

Ah yes let the condescension rain down. Gender identity is nonsense claiming you can be non-binary or have multiple genders is delusional. You cannot naturally become a male or female from surgery. you can look the part sure. "Ridiculous according to whom? You? Who are you? A student? A CNA? You feel qualified to make these pronouncements because you have "talked with victims of gender dysphoria"? It is a FACT that there are children with gender dysphoria. Many of them insist from the time they can talk that they are NOT the gender that their sex organs would imply. There is no other word for this phenomenon." What Is Gender Dysphoria? Unlike you I research things it is taken from the DSM V. "I will tell you to educate yourself, because you are very obviously clearly lacking in education on this subject. And what are you, 12, using words like "retarded"? I read another post by you where you referred to posts that disagreed with you as "autistic." I really really hope you have no further plans to work in mental health." What is your point here? I said "autistic" or "retarded" Are you aware that only trans trenders (a minority of a minority) believe the nonsense that is gender spectrum? And that a lot of the garbage that is being espoused is undermining real transgenders? "Ridiculous according to whom? You? Who are you? A student? A CNA? You feel qualified to make these pronouncements because you have "talked with victims of gender dysphoria"? "They should not have to face this kind of treatment from health care PROFESSIONALS." I love your condescending elitism btw. I love how you reiterate being a professional while doing that when face with a controversial opinion.

This is the problem right here. Gender is a social construct from what I can gather and Sex is referring to your genitalia. Ok. "if someone should be treated as the sex and gender they were born as, how do you define that, by chromosomes? External genitalia? Internal reproductive anatomy? What if it's 50/50?" People have forgotten about 'tomboys' and 'tomgirls' biologically born girls acting boyish and biologically born boys acting girly respectively and hermaphrodites these are outliers. I understand the concept of people that are born as hermaphrodites and need to have a corrective surgery. Kids grow out of the tomboy, tomgirl stage. "Just as you might be born with some female anatomy and some male anatomy, you might also be born with conflicting gender identity and anatomical development." What you are saying is ludicrous. If I understand correctly Gender is a social construct or something. What you are saying here (Or how I'm interpreting it) someone is born with a female body but thinks they are male (something that is not true) That is delusional and I was taught to not feed into patient's delusional fantasies. "outdated assumption that everyone is either all male or all female" I don't mean to cherry pick you but what does that mean!? Of course there are male and female! What else could there be? "Gender dysphoria and being transgendered are not treated as mental illnesses, gender dysphoria previously had a DSM diagnosis but that was removed 6 years ago." What Is Gender Dysphoria? It should be from the current DSM V of course I may have misquoted should have said disorder.

I get it I'm not in your echo chamber. I do nothing but read, study, and converse with victims of gender dysphoria. The suicide risk post op is incredibly high, the DSM V says for treatment it recommends hormone blockers and surgery if counseling does not work, children can be diagnosed with gender dysphoria which is ridiculous! The DSM V says gender is a spectrum which is just false, Gender Dysphoria and the treatment for it condones self harm, children are being put on puberty blockers which will cause long term effects. Don't tell me to educate myself! If anything I'm highly disappointed for healthcare professionals for not being vocal about this or looking into better treatment options for it other than making a victim of gender dysphoria effectively a eunuch. I feel pity for people that have gender dysphoria and I understand it is an issue.

It's horrible that people are born with gender dysphoria do not get me wrong. but "trans trenders" are a thing which are a group of people that undermine people with gender dysphoria and is a thing to be aware of. It is not insulting at all to the patient since they are male. Would you bunk a male client with a female? I fail to see how it's discriminatory and unprofessional.

"This is absolutely wrong and insulting to the patient, not to mention unprofessional and discriminatory." It's horrible that people are born with gender dysphoria do not get me wrong. but "trans trenders" are a thing which are a group of people that undermine people with gender dysphoria and is a thing to be aware of. It is not insulting at all to the patient since they are male. Would you bunk a male client with a female? I fail to see how it's discriminatory and unprofessional.

It is. Gender dysphoria while tragic to be diagnosed with. the treatments are questionable! It is on the same level as agreeing with someone that is delusional that they are an astronaut! While I'm sure you can say I'm wrong and quote the DSM V by the APA keep in there are loop holes. Loopholes So there's standard protocol in an MVA (Motor Vehicle Accident) where paramedics mop up the gore, the blood, the ****, the piss etc. They clean up congealed blood on the patient, make an assessment, give that assessment to the Doctors and Surgeons performing on that patient and then it's taken from there. Guess what? THERE IS NO STANDARD PROTOCOL IN MENTAL HEALTH! That's right! These ********* are actually making a psychoanalysis on you with the DSM-V, which is textbook theory ********. You can literally tell them the most retarded story you can think of and they'll believe 100% that you're Schizophrenic and are having an episode. Not like it should be hard for you anyway; once you're in a psych ward you're pretty much ****** since psychiatrists and doctors will believe nothing you say! And respect is earned and not given.

This is a propagation of illness. They should be treated as the Sex and Gender they were born as. I worked at a Mental house and we had a trans client who claimed to be a woman (but was really a man in drag which is what they call 'transitioning' now). He was bunked with the guys and not the women.

Maybe there was no ill will intended. There are several local EMS agencies in my area with the mindset that if its not life threatening but still serious then have a loved one take you to the hospital or ER and get treated and spare you the cost of an ambulance ride if it can be avoided.