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Exactly. The grammar trolls on here are just mad because they're not being worshiped as gods. As I said in my op specialty nurses are different. All this whining and moaning and poor me stuff though is totally proving my points. And medics do have a wider scope. So whatever bsns are pretending they're nps can ******off. This thread has been trolled by entitled and disgruntled veterans who are more likely upset at new students starting off at twice their start wage.... me I'm just a lowly medic/ma trucking through nursing school, whos pretty much only dated medical personnel for the last decade while working medicine and ems and who has three nurses in the family....any more poor me's out there want to whine about how they deserve surgeons wages... ps I do not have multiple accounts. Although you're being so pathetically wrong and full of yourself might lead you to believe that...

Whining whining whining so much entitlement, medics have a wider scope of practice and actually save lives, if I had a dollar for every nurse that couldn't or should t have even made it through a bls class I'd have more than a few hundred dollars. Some of you people are insane. Oh poor me, nursing school was hard, the books were so heavy in my back pack, my pt is being rude to me. Grow up and act like a medical professional. Stop standing around on tinder while tech's and assistants do your jobs, so many of you will be sol when ma's get to start lines and they start using medics in er's more. Hey you didn't want to clean rooms, someone else does it now, you didn't want to do phleb, someone else does it now, you wanted to just stand around and start ivs...ok we'll see how much longer admin will keep paying you 80k a year...dillusional

Iv starts are so easy medics do them all day every day, heck even lvn can do em in some states. The ego on here is insane. Emts and ma's along with phlebotomists and bio-trained janitors and countless other techs have absorbed nursings whole scope. The ego and entitlement from you says it all.

Yes if you think one nurse salary should allow support for multiple children and to buy a house and car than yes it's not only greedy. It preposterous!

Hahahah oh my god the sense of entitlement for nurses is so outta control!!!!! This is why nurses aren't economical! It doesn't take a bachelors to start lines and fetch meds! Most nurses stand around most of their shifts because they've slowly tech'd out their entire scope beyond iv starts. This is why nurses unions have worked tirelessly to keep medical assistants from iv scope. Unless you're a specialized nurse or an np, you don't deserve any more than 80k a year to 100k max depending on your location. It honestly makes me sick to hear new grad bsn complain about loans all day and to hear the greed!! Some nurses in this thread think they should be making surgeon wages! Ridiculous, absolute greed and dillusion!

You all are fantastic. Thank you so much for the replies, I've spent hours googling this over the last few years and have taken numerous bls acls and basic ekg/anat/phis courses and have never found such clarity! Thank you thank you thank you!!!! I wish aha instructors especially at the bls level would have this basic information. I'm super excited to have read this and now I know better where to research and study as I continue to learn.

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Hello all, so pretty simple question, or at least I hope it is. It seems every bls and acls instructor has a different set of opinions that typically end with ambiguity once investigated... does defibrillation start the heart back to a normal rhythm? It it is my understanding that defibrillation is obviously key, however the action it contributes is often unclear. I believe that a jolt of high voltage will literally stop the hearts ventricles from fibrillation and essentially put the heart in asystole aka flatline, and that it is compressions that 'restart' the hearts normal rhythm. So basically in my limited education I learned defibs stop the bad activity and kill the heart super duper dead and compressions get it firing proper aka defibrillation is 'reset' akin to pulling the plug on a computer and compressions is 'restart' like hitting the power button to resume functionality. Im aware there are other rhythms that require pacemaking and I'm NOT talking about that. In terms of vtac or vfib full arrest, does a pt ever Frankenstein post defibrillation? My current understanding is that defibrillation without compressions is essentially killing your pt immediately. educate me. And thanks in advance

Ab so lootly. Hot pink. I went ranger danger on the rig and they called me safety sam because all my kit from knife to lunchbox was either bright safety yellow or orange. Doctors only steal **** that's neutral in color...

not to mention, you can probably (hopefully in your area) find a medical academy or junior college that has a part time emt-b program you will breeze through if you have that much nursing school under your belt, and part-time, you can likely fit in concurrent with your classes. if your state uses emt-a then shoot for that maybe... the nremt website is pretty good

Thats badass. Down here EMTs cant even intubate or do ekgs. Cheers!

Hey Zoe, thats a trip! Ive never heard of cnas doing anything beyond vitals, and even that is a rarity here in Cal. What state are you practicing in?

I think for a site like this its cool for folks to start their posts with their state. That way you know what state the post your reading is coming from. I'm from California and have some of the same questions you do about ekg and phleb but scopes are so varied everywhere its hard to gauge the incoming info and advice.

Thanks. ALL CMA programs seem to include ekg and phleb training, however they do NOT ALL include certification as phlebotomists and ekg technicians I'm mostly curious if being certified as either of those is beneficial...

Hello all! EMT and prospective MA student here! Seems like MA programs vary incredibly. Not just in times and format, but in terms of included certifications. Now I know things are different state to state, I'm in Cali. I basically have options between 'medical academies' or junior colleges/technical schools. The more expensive and intensive programs seems to come with extra national credentials for ekg tech. and phleb. tech. Are these extra 'merit badges' of much benefit? Also, is registering with ARMA after course completion required 100%? Thanks for any input, feedback from any state would be helpful.