floatingribs

only 40% of pre meds get to med school there really is no second chance besides reapplying and retaking it, so the fact that 60% of pre meds don't matriculate should speak enough that all of them aren't the cream of the crop. Nursing school is more lenient with grades definitely but comparing med school which is an M.D. with a BSN are two very different things, but a pre med is an undergrad concentration.

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it doesn't make sense to compare the two since the Hesi is an exit exam and the MCAT is an entrance exam (and in no way saying the USMLE is comparable to the NLCEX lol) and I definitely do know the knowledge that needs to be remembered and applied is far more, but to say they're the smartest kids is a stretch or that the kids who feel like they're not smart enough go into nursing. Definitely does happen but I really doubt they're smarter. I was prv pre med and most nursing science were easier, some were harder (organic biochem was far far harder than chem I & II) but why would pre med's be considered the smartest when like comp science majors go up to linear algebra (since everyone keeps mentioning calc) or physics majors go up to grad level courses in just physics? It's just annoying when pre meds think they're already in med school when they're no where near it at the moment. I don't think by any means they're smarter. the smarter ones are the ones that are in accelerated 7 yr med programs already, the rest of the pre meds are just like every other student that's majoring in anything. I didn't say which was more rigorous but I do think pre meds try harder, study more, etc b/c they're goal is to get to med school. I think some of ou are confusing pre med with med school which are two very different monsters, and I def did not compare nursing school to med school.

That's a very big generalization to make especially since at lots of universities the nursing schools are far more competitive than the generic BS in biology. It is lame that many pre meds use this philosophy and automatically assume all nursing students are far dumber and wouldn't be able to maintain high gpas. Also pre meds aren't doing any dosage calculations that's why you don't hear of them... (all it is is just general courses in varying sciences, a pre med concentration isn't even a major and is literally useless if you don't get to med school)

I pointed this out to someone actually, like i don't understand why they assume pre meds are the smartest kids on campus with the toughest lives like it's not a competition??? our nursing school is one of the best in the nation and statistically the highest student SAT/ACT scores ended up in the BSN program and that pre med is just a bunch of courses that coincide with tons of majors b/c pre med is no where near med school.

I'm actually doing the best in my science courses like A&P I-II and biochem but did worse in my nursing classes b/c I guess they were more writing based? So I think it's really dependent on what type of subject you excel in since there's a huge difference between anatomy & physio and like trends of nursing

summer courses don't last the entire summer either so you'll still have time to relax tbh.

And yall not going to address the fact that when males enter nursing they just rise the ranks far quicker. The glass elevator in nursing is definitely there and this post is so sexist yikes

I'm currently a freshman in a BSN program but I really want to make sure I get a job in a med-surg specialty after graduation. Most of them require at least two years of experience though and there must be tons of applicants with far more experience coming in so what's a good way to diversify one's self? I have a high gpa (hoping it stays that way lol), I've volunteered in ER registration for 2 years now and will most probably get a job in ER registration. I've got lots of work experience in customer service and help desk esque jobs as well. The biggest downside is that I don't have actual medical job and I don't see myself having the time and having a job as a CNA or EMT at the moment. I do plan to work in hospitals during my clinicals (lots of the hospitals hire if you've done one clinical and you're able to work as a nursing assistant but this would be in 2ish years). Would research help (I plan to do so anyways)? So any advice that would diversify me?

No problemo :) And really it depends on the professor, one of my professor based all her classes on slides so it was sufficient to study from them, but if there's one thing specific about summer classes it's that you should be dedicating some time to work everyday (esp if there's hw!). But if you're not sure I'd read the textbook for the first exam and then see the best way to study for next. I found A&P II to be more specific memorizing so I focused on things I was sure I was going to forget or mixed up. But again the biggest thing is staying on top of reading and hw and not letting it build up since you'll probably have less time to get acquainted with info before the exams.

Do it! I'm taking A&P II with organic biochem (which is absolutely terrible when the last chem class you've taken is in hs and you're expected to have basic knowledge in organic chemistry) and it's tough but not because I'm taking the too sciences together. Chem and bios are very different in the way you study as well since chem is more application of stuff you learned on exams

I personally found A&P II to be more tedious than A&P I but if that's the only class your taking it shouldn't be tough to manage at all. I've taken harder classes while working part time and if you're a good memorizer it'll be a breeze. Good luck though!

So I've heard mixed views on this but are pre nursing students ones who are going to apply to the nursing program or is it also freshman and sophomore in a direct BSN program (I'm a freshman in a direct BSN program)? And what are pre nursing courses exactly? In the direct BSN program we have a mix of nursing classes and sciences, but lots of them are restricted to nursing students only. I always get asked this and I'm not sure what to tell people what pre nursing is

I only volunteer in an ER atm (I'm a nursing student) and this one guy always requests female PAs and Nurses to give him exams (they call him a frequent flyer). I had to get a signature from and one of the male PAs stopped me and told me he'd get it. It's nice of the male PAs and male nurse to always step in but the female staff takes care of them if no one else is there since you're supposed to regardless of the person.

floating ribs just seemed like a cool thing in anatomy :)