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Special Research Section and how it affects the quick results
Of the classmates that I know tested in July, 2 had the research questions. I also had them. The research questions aren't included in the quick results at all. My test ended with 75 questions, but when the research questions started, it showed my count going up. One of the other classmates said the same thing about her question number going up, but during the research questions, it allowed you to go back to previous questions where as the actual exam didn't allow that. One classmate that had the research questions had accidentally ended it a few questions in and it didn't impact his score at all. Unfortunately if your quick results say fail, I'd say it's accurate and didn't incorrectly count the research questions as I've not heard of anyone's quick results being inaccurate. What resources did you use? Either way, hang in there, and worst case scenario, you test again. Please keep us posted and thinking of you. It wouldn't have shut off because it didn't think she'd have enough time to get through all 265. It shuts off when one of 3 things happen: 1. When the computer is 95% the tester's ability is clearly above or below passing. 2. When time runs out. 3. Once 265 items have been answered. Since she had time left, it wouldn't have shut off until one of those 3 things occurred. Since hers shut off at 75, it was #1.
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75 questions today on NCLEX
Congratulations!
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Mercy college of Ohio ASN 2016
It's true that the passing is 80%. That's actually pretty common for most nursing programs. Some programs do have a slightly lower requirement. I think I've heard of 75% being the lowest; some 78%. 80% seems most common in programs. I've also seen some much higher. I know it sounds scary and overwhelming to have to achieve such a high percentage, but a lot of schools do that because of the importance of needing to know the information. I don't really think it's really that much of a weeding thing as much as it is making sure you're as knowledgeable and safe as possible. The first semester we saw the biggest drop in numbers. However, it's also the first semester that helps people get a feel for if it's the right thing for them. Some people withdrew as they felt it wasn't for them once they started getting a feel for it. Also, sometimes it takes a little longer for some to adjust to the testing style, answering nursing / NCLEX style questions. For others, sometimes it just became a conflict with things in their life and ended up moving to the night/evening program instead. I know it feels scary and intimidating with having to achieve such a high grade. I won't lie and say that it was super easy and without stress and feeling overwhelmed, but it truly was an amazing experience. There were tears for sure, but it was truly wonderful there. I can honestly say the Youngstown instructors are truly amazing. They are such a supportive group, and you can tell that they want you to succeed. Even since graduating, they've still been very encouraging and supportive as my classmates have been going through the process of studying for and taking NCLEX and looking for jobs. The person who did the tutoring, who was absolutely amazing, retired when I finished, but I know they have someone else in there. Plus the instructors are always willing to help you if you're struggling. I've seen some of my classmates go through some truly tough things in life during the program, and the instructors have been with them every step of the way. Have you talked to the faculty there at all to get more information? It truly is a great place to go. I would do it again in a second.
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75 questions today on NCLEX
Good luck! Keeping fingers crossed for good news tonight!
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75 questions today on NCLEX
Congrats! I got my quick results this morning and found out that I passed as well!
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75 questions today on NCLEX
Good luck! Keeping fingers crossed that you get your good news shortly :) I also took mine today and shut off at 75. I, too, used Uworld. I really need to find a way to distract myself for the next day and a half! Keep us posted! :)
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Ok Class of 2017, Where are you??
Congrats! Do you know about how long it takes to get your ATT where you're from? I've heard from my other classmates that previous graduates didn't get theirs until the end of June. I definitely have time to study, but I'm anxious to get it scheduled and take it! Congrats! I don't feel like it's sunk in yet and it's been almost 3 weeks. What books are you using to prepare for NCLEX? Right now I'm just using UWolrd and the ATI book we received during our live review. That's exciting about the BSN and MSN programs! I'd like to start looking, but I'm going to wait a little bit. We have to sign a contract upon hire that we'll get our BSN within 5 years from the date of hire. I don't plan waiting that long - I'm thinking a year. My son was born during my first semester, so I missed a lot of his firsts, plus the extra weight on my husband's shoulders. I'm having my 3rd at the end of August, and I really want to have time to adjust to working, watching my baby's first year, spending as much time as possible with my kids. I'm hoping I'll find a job quickly enough and will have settled in within a year, and hopefully making work and school more manageable. Are you looking for online only (or mostly) or a brick and mortar school?
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Clinicals
For the most part we were at one hospital. A few other times we went to the other affiliate hospital - it didn't matter where you lived, it's just where you got sent. I have no idea how they chose our units or how they chose who went to which hospital, but I do know that when we were on one unit for the entirety of the semester, you just went where they sent you, not necessarily if you lived closer etc. Though the two hospitals were about 20 minutes from each other. During the last two semesters (med surg III and critical care), we rotated between hospitals, so everyone ended up pretty much at each place. The specialty areas were a little different - psych, OB and peds. Some aspects were one location only (like where there was only one clinical for that specific location to see the different aspects of psych, etc), but otherwise, there were a few locations we could've gone. Before the start of the semester, they'd tell us each of the locations that we could potentially end up at. They had everyone pick their first, second, and third (etc) choices. They tried to accommodate as many people as possible - though sometimes they were unable to as they had to look and see if one location was potentially a scheduling conflict with another clinical or class. So those they tried to go by student preference if they could manage, but otherwise we had no choice in where we went if there were more than one location.
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Anyone testing in June?
I'm hoping to take mine sometime in June. I graduated on the 4th, so I'm just waiting for my ATT. If not, I'm hoping early July.
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ATI testing GRADED.
We did ATI, but ATI had nothing to do with our grade and had no impact on whether we passed or failed. There was only 1 practice assessment that counted as a quiz grade, but that was the only one. We did practice tests throughout each of the semesters that were due by a certain date. This was the only time it'd impact our grade. If they weren't completed by the end of the semester, the student would get an incomplete for their grade. They asked for a certain percentage on the practice assessments, but we could retake. We'd have a proctored exam at the end of each semester. We "needed" a level 2. If you didn't get the level 2 on the first try, you had to do remediation and take it again. It was required to take it again, but if you didn't score the level 2 again, there weren't any consequences. They did, however, use that to determine weak areas of each individual so we could continue to work on them. It was the same for the comprehensive predictor which was taken a few weeks before our final exams. You had to retake it if you scored below a certain probability of passing NCLEX, but it didn't fail you if you didn't. They used the information to help the students come up with individualized study plans for studying for NCLEX.
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Ok Class of 2017, Where are you??
I graduated last night! :) Feels kind of surreal. Now onto applying and hopefully getting my ATT for NCLEX soon!
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Comprehensive ATI 2016 Retake
I know this may not be of much help... but hopefully. I didn't retake the comprehensive, but I'd imagine it'd be random, not necessarily the same exact areas, but the type of content. Like prioritization, delegation, etc. If you go into your results, it gives you an idea how you did with content so that should give you a good idea on what areas to focus on. Maybe even do a focused review. I've never done a focused review, so I'm not sure how helpful it is, but I would look at the areas that you scored low on. Is there anything in particular that stood out that you struggled with? Or certain areas? I can't really answer on the NCLEX review book as I just started my life review yesterday, so I just got the book yesterday, but from what it looks like, it could be helpful. Maybe go through there to the areas that you know you struggle with. It looks like the info is organized pretty nicely in there, in a simple format, so that may be a good way to go. So I'd say go through and see your weak areas on the comp predictor and look through the book. Do practice questions. I think the review book has some questions, but I'd go through the ATI website and maybe redo some practice assessments / tests and really any practice questions that you can do. Good luck!
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About to graduate!
I graduate Thursday and am feeling a little apprehensive. It's exciting, but just knowing how drastically things are going to change. I've seen my classmates more than my husband and kids a good portion of the time. I've gotten used to seeing them all the time. I'm used to being so busy between school and the kids. I'm used to deadlines and working towards something. Always having a goal. I know I'll still have NCLEX to look forward to, and hopefully a job. I'll get to enjoy my kids this summer and adding one at the end of August. I'm definitely excited about these things, but I just feel like I'm really going to miss it. I can't explain how much I loved my preceptorship, and I just felt really good about going every shift. I just felt like I was really starting to get the hang of everything, and it's just over now. I just look forward to being able to do this again.
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Ok Class of 2017, Where are you??
I graduate next Thursday!!! I honestly can't wrap my head around it. I have one more practicum shift to complete and then 3 ATI NCLEX review days next week. Then I'm done. I've submitted my application to my state's BON and registered with Pearson Vue. So I just have to get my background check done (tomorrow), and then wait for the school to send my completion letter and then wait for my ATT. It feels surreal.
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Ok Class of 2017, Where are you??
How was that? I've been seriously considering doing that, hoping it'll up my chances to get into L&D. Things have been too crazy to do it just yet, but I'm hoping to here soon. It's honestly really hard to believe it's almost over. I had my last final last Thursday. My practicum started Sunday and my next day is tomorrow. My last day is the 29th. The first few days in May I have mandatory ATI review. I really never imagined myself a college graduate, and certainly not from nursing school. It really has been rough, but I also have loved the experience and am grateful that I had the opportunity to do so. I got in by the skin of my teeth and am thankful that the school took a chance on me.
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Having a baby before, during, or after nursing school?
It's doable, but it can be very difficult. When I started, my daughter was 2 and then had my son 4 weeks into my first semester. I had a c section and ended up being out 3 weeks. I managed to get through, but it was very tough. It was very tough with him as he had a dairy protein allergy, bad reflux, numerous ear infections which finally required tubes. Juggling doctor's appointments and illness where they had to miss daycare was challenging. We have a great support system, but my family lives over an hour away and my mother in law has a lot of other grandchildren, so it wasn't always possible for her to help out. That was a truly tough time. My husband and I had decided to have another between graduation and me starting work. I'm 14 weeks pregnant 8 weeks into my last semester. My first two pregnancies were pretty much a breeze, so I had a lot of hope that this would be too, if only a little tougher because of the demands of school and two small kids running around. This pregnancy has been so different. I was never this sick or exhausted with my first two, so it's really been a challenge. There have been many days this semester where I just wanted to quit and graduate a year later. I've been pushing through, but it's not been easy. I only say this because you have to take into consideration that you don't know how your pregnancy will be. Which isn't to say don't, but just something to consider. It's absolutely doable, it's just difficult and you'll want strong support system.
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Online support group Moms in Nursing School
I'm in my last semester with a 3.5 year old and a 17 month old. I had my 17 month old 4 weeks into my first semester and am currently 12 weeks pregnant with my third, but obviously I should be done by then (hopefully, provided I get through). I'm up for a private group if that's decided on. Having kids, especially young, is definitely a challenge while in school, but I found that, as hard as it's been, they've truly been what's kept me going whenever I've felt like giving up.
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Ok Class of 2017, Where are you??
Just checking in to see how everyone is doing. We're almost done! I have about 6-7 weeks left until finals and then have 3 weeks of practicum. Then, hopefully, I'll be graduating at the beginning of May. How is everyone else and what's your anticipated graduation date?
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Ok Class of 2017, Where are you??
How is everyone doing and holding up? I'm doing well still, but this semester has, so far, left me feeling discouraged, defeated, and overwhelmed. I'm taking med surg (III) and microbiology (hybrid - online and in person). I just finished my 8 weeks of OB and am starting my 8 weeks of Peds. This week I have one more course starting (online only). This new class will put me at 16 credit hours, and I already feel like I'm drowning without it. This semester I've felt so stupid. I feel like I know nothing, and I feel like I'm not holding things together as well I had before. I don't know if it's just been the extra things outside of school that has put me there or not. I think it is. I have weekly appointments (counseling trying to recover from an eating disorder), my kids both had well visits (with 1 more well visit coming up and an ENT follow up for tubes that were placed this last summer). Plus staying on top of bills, money in general, my son teething and so is up many times a night most nights, my daughter just started gymnastics and I've been going with her (she's in a class where I'm with her and help her), dealing with health insurance and what not, and then cell phone issues. I got the galaxy note 7 at the end of August, which was recalled because there were reports of them catching fire / exploding. The stress of that and dealing with the phone company was a lot. I had finally got a replacement note 7 a few weeks into September only to find out about a week ago or so that those were catching fire / exploding as well, so then had to get that one replaced with another phone. We're trying to get my son transitioned from the bottle to the sippy. We're trying to get our 3 year old potty trained who is completely resisting, so we have absolutely no idea what to do or what we're doing. My husband works full time and does pretty much all of the cleaning and takes on more than his fair share of responsibility with the kids. I still spend time with them and do what I can, but there are days/weeks where it's very little as to what I'm able to do to help him. I've been sick twice in the last month. I'm just getting over the same thing for the second time right now (which I think has a lot to do with stress and lack of sleep). Plus I have to get my flu shot and have it approved by the end of the month, and have no idea if I should just go get it even with still being a little sick as I'm not sure if I'll be 100% by the due date. I feel like I'm letting people down left and right. I feel like I can't even take a break to breathe as I feel like I'm going to screw up and then let people down if I already haven't. If I can just keep pushing through, I have 8 weeks left of this semester followed by 3 weeks off. Spring semester is my last semester. It'll be a 12 week semester where I'll have, I believe, a medical ethics class and an 8 credit hour critical care class. We end with finals at or the week following the 12 weeks of class. Then we'll do a 3 week preceptorship, and then (hopefully!) graduate May 4. I'm trying to see the light at the end of the tunnel for this semester in order to try and get me through. One of my instructors had to give me a pep talk a couple of weeks ago. I'm just scared I won't be able to get through this. I'm scared that if I feel this way now, I'll never make it as an RN.
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Getting through nursing school with mental health problems
I echo the others in saying that if you're not under the care of a doctor and/or therapist for those things, please strongly consider doing so. That can be one of the most difficult steps to take. Acknowledging there's an issue, and then seeking out help, both of which can feel very difficult to do. I've struggled with an eating disorder most of my life. I've also struggled with depression and anxiety. I really thought I had depression and anxiety under control though. I realized during the spring semester this year that I really didn't. I was ready to drop out because I just felt like I'd never be able to get through it. I figured I'd struggle with the eating disorder the rest of my life, but I at least wanted to regain some control over anxiety. I stuck with school, and I had finally asked for help during the short break between my spring and summer semester. I was diagnosed with ADHD on top of the other things. I started on some meds with some changes to others that I had started last fall (postpartum depression). I just took it day by day. It was a struggle every day. I spoke with the counselor at school and got things squared away there. As hard as it was to be going to therapy, working on a lifetime's worth of issues, and keeping up with school, I stuck with it. I slowly started noticing changes in myself, and noticed the positive changes in how I was at school and interacted with my classmates and performed in clinical. I had another med change after summer semester and had a 3 week break to adjust to the change. I'm finally on the right combination of everything. For the first time in my life, I'm actually having days where I don't binge or purge at all which is something I never dreamed possible. I'm finally starting to accept myself a little more as time goes on. I don't focus on my appearance so much and what my classmates are thinking of how I look as much. Some days are harder than others, but I try to block those thoughts out as much as possible. My thoughts on my appearance is pretty much what destroyed my confidence in clinical. I eventually started telling myself that the patient doesn't care what I look like (whether that's actually true or not), and that the patient needs me to be focused on them and taking care of them rather than causing them to feel unsure of me because they can sense or see that I'm not comfortable. I also knew I'd probably end up failing clinical if I couldn't figure out a way to at least deal with it during clinical. Once I started doing that along with being on proper meds and talking to someone, there's really been a huge difference. I still have a long way to go, but I'm laughing now and actually starting to really enjoy the whole experience. Some days are still harder than others where I would rather stay in bed all day and not go to class, but knowing how far I've come and seeing the positive changes is enough to keep me pushing through each day. It's exhausting. Absolutely exhausting to push through each and every day, having to add in counseling to my already too chaotic of a schedule, and then fighting my mind on a daily basis. I'm so glad that I ultimately made that decision to get help, and even more grateful that I've stuck with it. I love the person I'm becoming, and I'm looking forward to loving the person that I become once I'm on the other side of this. My kids and nursing school have really been the things that keep me going back, keep me trying to move forward. I remind myself every day of why I'm doing this, both going to counseling and nursing school, and that keeps me going and keeps me working on me, and by doing that, I'm able to cope a little bit better as time goes on.
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Is having a 3 month old too young to start nursing school?
It truly depends on you and what kind of support system you have. When I started my program my daughter had just turned 2, and then I had my son at the beginning of the fourth week of the first semester. He had a dairy protein allergy which would have him screaming 24/7 during his first month of life before he was diagnosed. On top of that he had bad reflux, so even with the dietary changes he was still a miserable mess and wasn't gaining weight very well. Still screaming almost 24/7. Not quite as much as before diagnosing the dairy protein allergy, but close. It's been hard. Very hard. My husband and mom have been the two most important people that have done so much so I could get through school. Without them, my husband especially, I don't think I could have done it. I have people tell me all the time that they don't know how I do it. I tell those that work and go to school that I don't know how they do it. Or those that have kids, work, and go to school whether married or single. My classmates and I say those things to each other. I think it's more about your perspective, how you handle it, and the kind of support system you have. As far as missing milestones... it absolutely can be hard. My summer semester was 10 weeks which included finals week within that 10. I hardly saw my kids as I was at school almost 24/7. I'd talk to my husband briefly on the phone, and he'd tell me how my son was doing something new. I had to be in clinical the morning that my son was getting tubes in his ears. While I know it's a simple and quick procedure, he'd never had general anesthesia. I wanted to be there. I wanted to be able to hold him after. Summer semester was very hard academically as there was so much to do, but it was the time spent away from my kids and missing my son's milestones that hit me the hardest. There were days I cried because I felt so much guilt. In the end, I knew that this was my sacrifice for them. From where I was at before going to school to where I could be after, I can provide them with a better life. Even though it's been hard, it'll be worth it in the end. The time that I do have with them, which is a little more now, I do everything to make it count. I also wasn't in a position to be able to put school off any longer. My family was, and still is, relying on me getting through school. Whether you push school back a year or not is a personal decision, one that we cannot decide for you. It absolutely can be done with having an infant at home. It's absolutely hard, but it's also doable. It depends on you, your family, etc.
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Classes like A and P along with the nursing courses?
It makes me wonder if you're in the same program, to be honest! Only because this is the first week in my program, and we also have to take medical ethics, but they allow students to take it early if they don't have a full schedule. I know it it could be several different programs lol but I'm honestly curious because it really sounds like it could be. Is today your first lecture for Fundamentals by chance? and have an information session about a mentoring program? (I'm going to feel dumb if it's different, but I just had to ask since it sounds like it could possibly be)
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Classes like A and P along with the nursing courses?
At worst, at least as far back as I went, about 87% ranging up to 94%. To be honest, I'm not really sure what's considered a good pass rate.
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Terrified of clinicals
I found myself in the same position when starting nursing school. I had made a lot of effort to try and boost my confidence before I started by doing things such as trying to make more small talk at the cash register when grocery shopping, or if someone was looking at the same product as me and I had a question, I'd force myself to ask. My first two semesters were full of pep talks from my clinical instructors. I actually almost gave up and quit my second semester because I felt like I'd never be able to be more confidence. My lack of confidence really showed. My third semester, which was last semester, I did a 180. I definitely still struggled with confidence, and still do, but it no longer defeated me. It wasn't very noticeable. It wasn't dragging down my performance anymore. I slowly started improving on my confidence levels week after week and am continuing to do so. Once I reached the point of not letting the lack of confidence defeat me, I started communicating better with my patients which gave me another boost. I stopped dwelling on the worries that fed into it. I would constantly worry about making mistakes. I always focused on how ridiculous I probably looked, how stupid I probably sounded, how much better my classmates would fit the role of a nurse, and how much I felt like a fraud. I stopped focusing on those things and finally just focused on the patient and their needs and what I could do within my scope as a student. That, I think, is what made the difference. It's not about me. It's not about my classmates. It's about the patient, and finally realizing that changed things. The thing is, many, if not most, of your classmates may be feeling every bit of of what you are. They may just be better at faking confidence. It still amazes me when I hear my classmates tell me how they lack confidence. I would have never guessed. They seem so natural and good at it. It's very likely that you're not the only one feeling the way you do, and for me, that makes such a huge difference when I know I'm not alone in how I feel. As the previous poster said, you will have practice before you try on a patient. With certain things, you will have your instructor with your or your cover nurse. Really learn and understand the material. Practice in the skills lab outside of class. Understanding the information and having your skills down should help with confidence. If you make a mistake, don't let it defeat you, but instead learn from it. Ask questions. It can be really hard when you're shy and lack confidence, but it IS possible to do this. It may be hard, and it may feel impossible, but you can work through it.
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Classes like A and P along with the nursing courses?
My program is set up in a way that allows you to take all of the typical pre-reqs as co-reqs. The only pre-reqs were chemistry, biology, and algebra prior to the start. It was about half and half as far as how many needed to take any of the other classes. First semster: A&P I with Fundamentals Second semester: A&P II, med surg, English 2, and nutrition Third semester (10 weeks): Med surg 2, mental health nursing, pathophysiology, and life span psychology. This semester: Med surg 3, OB/Peds, microbiology, and art appreciation. I will say, though, that I had A&P a year prior from another program that didn't transfer. It was still a lot more difficult, but I had seen a lot of it before. That's how it was for many classmates as well, but they all agreed that it was more difficult than the ones they had previously took. The majority passed A&P and Fundamentals and Med surg. Some didn't. Some that only had the nursing courses didn't, so it's hard to say how much of it had to do with A&P. As far as I know, my program has been set up this way for awhile (or the whole time) and previous classes did well doing both. I have no idea how many of those previously had A&P that didn't transfer or how many were taking it for the first time, however. That could possibly be a big factor in that. I don't know. It definitely doesn't seem to be the norm for programs to be structured like this though. As others have said, A&P is the foundation. Do you know if a lot of other classmates need to take it as well? I think, like a previous poster stated, talking to a current nursing instructor may be to provide you with a better idea about taking the two together.