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Oh it is 36 for the ADN program, "Generally, the Associate Degree Nursing Program accepts 36 students in the Generic program and 12 in the Transition from Vocational to Professional Nursing at the Gainesville campus if there are enough qualified applicants." You are right that is nerve racking! Also, I knew a girl at NCTC last semester who was accepted with a 69 on the test, at least that is what I thought she said! I hope that is true! My son is out of school now too, so I am will only be studying a little bit in the evenings from now on. I am waiting on that letter!!!

jls0459, do you remember what the accepted test scores were for your application period when you took the Kaplan?

I don't know the class size, but it says on the website that they accept 32 or 34 applicants.

NCTC posted that 78 applications have been received for the ADN program and letters will go out sometime next week regarding those invited to take the Kaplan exam.

I researched this subject a bit for myself - MLT vs. RN. I liked the though of becoming an MLT because I enjoy the hard sciences and I wanted a degree that would give me highly marketable skill set and continue on with my education after my bachelors. MLTs have a lot of education in the hard sciences with little pay. They actually make less than nurses and have little opportunity for advancement! Your nursing classes would transfer, but you would probably need an additional 2 years of school to become an MLT unless you already have a Bachelors in Science. Since you probably already have some nursing courses out of the way, I would consider reevaluating what went wrong with nursing school and working on fixing that!

I feel like A&P II is too important to take in a short semester. I took A&P I in an 8 week course, and it was overwhelming and I only committed much of it to short term memory. I took A&P II in a long semester, and I really retained it and I know this will help me in nursing school! I made an A in both, but I personally wouldn't recommend a short semester if it can be avoided!

It will probably be a bit shocking as your first college science class. Yes it is hard! You have to study and work hard in this class to do well, despite the instructor and it is a new learning curve for most!

RjSmithTec, I did receive your substantial response. Thank you!

RjSmithTech, thanks I PM'd you!

Approved modern medicines of today were often pseudosciences of the past! That is an interesting point, because you know I haven't thought about that. 15 years ago I was experiencing gastritis and GERD. At the time, not one doctor recommended diet change. They all suggested PPIs and exploring the cause and even did a endoscopy. This was before they discovered that H. Pylori was the cause of many ulcers and before probiotics were known to help. I guess that does show that things do change over time and that nutrition is more accepted now for illnesses like GERD. However, the nutrition recommendations I have seen made by medical doctors today do not seem to help much in my personal experience with nutrition clients - at least with healing! I see they recommend foods to prevent reflux, but generally I have not seen healing occur in most people with GERD unless they include radical nutrition changes, vitamins, and herbal therapies! Many alternative practitioners believe that GERD and reflux are a result of low HCL in the stomach vs. the common belief of too much acid, and that goes against modern medical ideas. I used an HCL supplement and digestive enzymes along wtih my juicing to heal my gut - DRAMATICALLY! I think most would consider juicing and HCL supplementation for GERD outside the norm at this point and nutrition was utilized much less 15 years ago, but it was the only thing that got me off the medication and I recommend it to clients now who have similar symptoms!

Usually people score the lowest on the science too!

This is a great score for the Kaplan! From what I have read, people scoring in the 70's is good and the cut off is usually 69 as your adviser said. I would be interested to hear about what you thought about the exam and what you would recommend to study. I will be taking in a couple of weeks, hopefully!

I think being on one end of the spectrum or the other can sometimes cause a person to be intolerant and judgmental! I know from personal experience! I believe finding a balance and respecting the opinions and choices of others not only makes a mature and compassionate person but a mature and compassionate nurse. Of course, we do not want to see blatant lies spread over social media and the internet! I believe that people are looking for alternatives in their lives because some mainstream ideas aren't working for them. While I do not condone articles blatantly presented as work from John Hopkins when that is untrue, I do not completely refute alternative beliefs which is what I hear many of you doing. There were some truths presented in the article, but the article cannot be taken seriously because it was presented falsely! Yes, I understand that there is a need to vent, but what I hear is a complete denial of others peoples beliefs as quackery and "crap," which I find disrespectful! I have been on both ends of the spectrum and when conventional medicine failed me, nutrition and alternative medicine saved me. However, later on alternative medicine failed me and conventional medicine helped me; I came to a more balanced point of view. This was the point where I realized that I could be a future nurse, possibly a nurse practitioner, and still have beliefs that weren't completely opposing each other. For years, conventional medicine did not help me and I wasted a lot of money and time seeing doctor's. I eventually fixed my own problem after spending hours, upon hours of research using herbs and nutrition. I was dealing with GERD and painful vomiting. The prescription medications and trips to the doctor's office for over a year did not help me! I couldn't get off the medications without experiencing extreme sickness! Then one day I started juicing fresh fruits and vegetables and using various herbs and nutrition supplements. I was immediately able to get off the PPIs, IMMEDIATELY! Whereas before this change, if I tried I would end up doubling over in pain and vomiting! This is just one example of how nutrition and herbs changed my life! Unfortunately, at the time I completely fell away from all conventional medicine and tried to use only herbs and nutrition for many years. Another example I can give is an injury I received in an elevator that slipped about a half a floor while I was on board. This injured my back and for years, I saw doctors received medications, injections, steroids and not a bit of it did any good - I was in pain. Finally I started doing Pilates and using chiropractic care, which was never suggested to me and within a few months no longer had back pain! Then I tried nutrition and supplements with my son who has severe allergies which failed! I finally gave in to getting him medications that made a huge difference. I was getting sick frequently over the last few years and my doctors' were unable to help. Finally I started taking high dose vitamin D3 and immediately stopped getting sick! I was literally getting bronchitis every couple of months followed by sinus infections for about 2 years. No medications helped me! Within a month of starting high dose vitamin D3 and some other supplements, I have now been completely well for a year! All to say, I had to realize that I could not completely reside on one side or the other. There is a balance that can be achieved in alternative and conventional medicine. Both have positives and negatives, and both have their place in achieving health and saving lives! There are scammers on both sides of the spectrum, unfortunately! Completely refuting what was given to us naturally on this earth makes no sense to me anymore than refuting lifesaving medications and treatments. God knows, I would be dead if I hadn't had lifesaving surgery when I ended up with an ectopic pregnancy. But guess what; even my gynecologist said that my tubal pregnancy and subsequent Fallopian tube removal happened as a result of scarring from a previous C-section! Remember that most medications came from plants at some point and many other life saving medicines come from other sources such as snake venom, spider venom, etc. If you think herbs are "nonsense" then think about where aspirin comes from and many of the popular remedies you probably enjoy! Probiotics come from fermenting foods, from bacteria...oh that was one of the things I did to help cure my GERD! Our bodies, our cells are composed of the foods we put into our bodies. Of course nutrition has a huge role to play in our health and the prevention and/or treatment of cancer. It is only logical if you really think about it! To me it seems more like pseudoscience to completely set aside the basics and where it came from and how it all came about. Remember Semmelweis the early pioneer of antiseptic techniques, "Despite various publications of results where hand-washing reduced mortality to below 1%, Semmelweis's observations conflicted with the established scientific and medical opinions of the time and his ideas were rejected by the medical community."

There is no easy way around it! I avoided considering nursing school for years because I was afraid of math and science. You have to have basic math competency in order to get into nursing school and to take nursing school entrance exams you need more than basic math competency. You can study on your own now and yes, you have to cram if you want to avoid going to school for longer. You can take remedial math courses as quickly as possible for your first year and then possibly study hard over the next summer and place into a college level class in your second year. You only need college algebra for most nursing degrees - actually you need statistics too. If you don't have time to cram now then you have to take the time in college to take remedial courses! It can be done, you just have to be motivated and make the decision to do it!

In my opinion, it doesn't make much sense to pursue nursing since you would have an additional 4-6 years of education to become an NP. Since you want to work with patients in a clinical capacity, and you have a degree, you should be a qualified candidate for PA school (physician assistant) which is a masters program. You would likely have pre-reqs complete and only 2 more years of school. Physician Assistant Careers - What is a Physician Assistant and How to Become a Physician Assistant

You would have to go to nursing school, then get an MSN, and then NP. You might be able to achieve your goals more efficiently by considering Physician Assisting school.

Thanks again for the info, jls0459. I live in the Lantana/Argyle area...I hope to find another person to carpool with. I am studying for the Kaplan, and I am super nervous. The Kaplan is stressing me out...on the one had I feel like it won't be too hard and then I have nightmares where I go take the test and don't know anything at all! :-/ I wish I could figure out how to study for the A&P portion too, I have been looking at my A&P II book mostly.

Agreed that OPs comments are very disrespectful. As a nurse you will have to deal with peoples differing opinions with a level of professionalism lacking at this moment! "Real nurses" are likely to have biased opinions on either side since they are humans too!

I tried to have a natural unmedicated birth in a birth center. My doula was priceless in helping me deal with the and keeping as comfortable as possible. I had an OP posterior presentation! My midwife was great too and kept constant checks on my health and babies and knew exactly when I needed to go to the hospital! Then the hospital gave me a chance to finish out naturally and when it wasn't possible anymore, gave me a C-section. My doula was with me for almost 24 hours and never once pushed for anything regarding my medical care, she was only supportive of me and what I needed! She cleaned up my vomit and did so much to help!!! As others have said, doulas advocate for the mother wants and needs. They do not offer medical advice most of the time.

They are developing programs that bridge. It is less costly to get an ADN or ASN and then bridge over to university. That is what I am doing and I anticipate saving quite a bit of money. It will not take any longer! The ADN bridge programs work out a curriculum with universities where you can complete your BSN in one year through university. I think because the community colleges will be creating bridge programs that are a significant cost savings that they will not die down at all!

I cannot remember if it listed a GPA. I don't think it did. Good luck!

When I filled out my application today, the secretary said they would input the class with the higher grade when reviewing the application even though the degree audit used a class with a C.

I don't know, I am going to ask about it tomorrow when I apply. I think I will have 11 priority points even if I don't get it changed but I am going to ask anyway to see if the degree audit is what they actually look at when verifying the calculation of priority points.

If you check your schools website regarding the Kaplan, they may have a list of the information you need to study and a sample study test. It only covers the physiology of certain systems. It wold be to your advantage to check, because you may reduce your study time significantly!!!

kspenser, there is no physics on the Kaplan. You only need to review the systems indicated in the sample Kaplan exam given out by your college.