glittergrl1998

Okay, gotta put inmy two cents too... I am a nursing student to about to graduate- Some nurses think they are God standing next to a student. I believe the Chrage nurse in your situation shold have minded her own business. She shold have been buy enough with her work to not eavesdrop. Secondly, you are assigned a nurse to work under for a reason. Your nurse hould have given you an answer after the breifing was over or if there was time told you a bit and then you should have went and looked it up. you do learn a lot more from being told than looking like an idiot when you get to your patients room and don't know protocol because a B**** like the charge nurse had to butt in. However, the charge nurse needs to remember her days in nursing school. As for your instructor, some of them can be so stupid- those who can't do , teach- this sometimes can be sooo true in nursing school, because why else would she want you to kiss the charge nurse's behind, I'll tell you why, she has to wok with her longer than you do and she will need help long before a determined nursing student will! Go ahead nurses who are mean to students, try to eat me alive, but think about how vulnerable you felt as a nursing student before you open you mouths- I know you can recall some kind of situation!

I hate to be the only negative response here, but I see it as the family was trying not to look like a bunch of jerks by making a scene after they went home and not coming back. If I had a DNR and was bad off and my family didn't won't to spend the last of my good minutes with me, why should they want to spend time with me when i am dead and gone. I think you were had. It is normal to grieve and such, but you showed more sympathy by crying on your way home form work than they did by making a scene when everyone could see it. I suggest you look up the real meaning of piousness. You are a good nurse!

I completely agree with the whole weeding out thing. My story: I started out at our local tach school in the ADN program after leaving a four year college majoring in Journalism. I had well over 90 credit hours and enough sense to how college works, how to study and a vast knowledge in biology. Because the ADN program at the tech school was competitive, we started out with 72 students in a 30 student class room. I think that should have been the give away. I knew how to test very well, and I performed wonderfully in clinicals, but I got so tired with the instuctors claiming I wasn't going to pass if I didn't spend more time doing this or that. My grades were undeniably perfect though. After my Fundamentals and Nutrition I got out. I went to a four year school to just get my BSN because I wanted to be CNM anyway. After moving I realized that ADN programs are more competitive than BSN programs in that the space availablity is crazy in demand. I learned more in my BSN than in my ADN classes, because we concentrated on the material not on whether or not the teachers could talk us out of learning it. And that is what it seemed like happening at the tech school... the instuctoirs almost tried to talk you into quitting. That sure as hell doesn't make a nurse a nurse. I 'd rather have a competent nursing studnet see me in a setting rather than one who kisses butt just to stay in and not get weeded out. It just seems as if the ADN programs around here are after graduated students who aren't prepared skill wise, but are prepared testing wise. Oh and yes, there is a difference between knwing and doing.

Go for the PA program girl, you can always go back to school, but it may be harder if you choose nursing now and try to get into that "prestigious" school later. know what I mean

oh yeah and I don't know about where you are from, but a NP definitely gets way more credit for smarts than a DO does around here! That should say something for how it works in the professions.

So I have been reading all this and I gotta say that this is crazy. Yeah, I am in Nursing school because I don't want to go to med school because of time restraints and such (by the way, which doesn't make me a bad person), but I will eventuall be a APN too. So here's what I think. After a certain period of time in a specialized practioner setting, not schooling, a APN should have the priveledges of a PA, not an MD! The PA is the closest,more respected with priveldges job in our discussion so far. By the time a FNP has got the same number of years under her or his belt as a PA, MD or Hell, even an Pharm D has to do their rotations and residency, then she or he should get the prescribing role and such- yeah a new group of letters will have to go at the end of the name for this to happen, but so what- a pin only costs a few bucks. This is my opinion, because you damn well, that we are equivalent in practice scope by that time. So I guess I partially agree with the whole "if you want to be a doctor , go to med school thing." If we all try to play doctor, that just gives them even more reason to thrust all that extra work upon us that they already do anyway. We just are legally protected right now to say "oh, no, that's your job" (or that is at least for the ones of us who ain't afraid to say so). The question here is does that APN want the title to look good in the work she does, or want that change so that they can do their job to their best ability by having more priveldges like prescribing without practing under a MD. But, let's be realistic, it's not gonna change. There is too much at stake for both boards, and advancement for nurses isn't the problem here. It seems to me that it is more about being called a doctor for the purpose of glory...I mean, as a NP you get to play doctor without as much legal problems, and you still get to have a family. Most NP's I know do their jobs as they see fit and prove themselves to their supervising MD enough, that the MD recognizes them as an equal who just got on the job training and not as much class time. God, ya'll are making way to much out of this.