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Kingsborough Fall 2014 Clinical Applicants!
Honestly, just the textbook and maybe the nutrition book is more than sufficient for the course exams. You can choose your own drug book, nursing diagnosis book, and other books they require from other sources/editions. Or if your clinical instructor is nice, you can skip the drug book and just use your phone to look up medications - it's all the same. The nursing diagnosis book helps a lot with unfolding careplans during clinicals, I'd bring it every week, as soon as you start clinicals! This is the book: Nursing Diagnosis Handbook: An Evidence-Based Guide to Planning Care, Eighth Edition: 9780323048262: Medicine & Health Science Books @ Amazon.com Can't really beat the price of $0.77 and for that much, it made my life ridiculously easier! No need to waste time guessing diagnosis or interventions. Ain't nobody got time for that during clinicals! Just take it straight from the book as appropriate. Also a clipboard with some storage space (for pens and make sure they're black ink) is really nice during clinicals. But don't get ones that are too bulky. Keep it light. You also need a BP cuff of your own that you bring with you every time you see your patient. Nursing 17 was all math. Personally, I did not buy the book. They give you a packet that literally has all that you need to pass the class with an A. The math is really nothing more than multiplying and reading what the question is asking!
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Kingsborough Fall 2014 Clinical Applicants!
Just nursing 18 and 17. Yep, it's hella exciting. :) A decent group to study with is a lifesaver. They kept me from slacking off!
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Kingsborough Fall 2014 Clinical Applicants!
Yay! Congrats you guys!! Let us know if there are any questions. Nursing 18 (fundamentals) was nothing short of CRAZY for me. But what helped survive was skimming the book and literally focusing 95% of my energy on bullet points, charts, diagrams, boxes in the textbook for the lecture exams. Many many select all questions and various 'oddball' questions came straight from those. And then refer to the text if need be (prn). It was a lot, but is not impossible. Definitely would not voluntarily go through something like nur 18 ever again!
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Are Nursing Programs harder to get into?
Some people will agree that getting accepted into a nursing program is the easiest part of your nursing career!
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I'm transferring with less than a year until I graduate.... Am I crazy?!
And so that's what I'm skeptical about, sorry to be annoying.. But I'd would love to see just one ad where it says what you specifically asked for.
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I'm transferring with less than a year until I graduate.... Am I crazy?!
- The job posting wants your degree from NLN approved school. - You have a BSN from an NLN approved school because you completed a bridge program. - My confusion is that it does NOT mention where one got their RN license and you said most hospitals asked for this specifically. I am asking for evidence because I've never seen such a requirement. - To me, this ad is normal. Asks for an accredited college, asks for active rn license. Okay. But they don't mention any further about where you got your RN license. (Might ask during interview but this is just about minimum requirements) The ad just asks for graduating from an accredited school of nursing, which is possible with accredited rn to bsn bridges. Makes sense?
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I'm transferring with less than a year until I graduate.... Am I crazy?!
There is a list of schools that are nlnac/ccne approved, accredited, and even non profit, if you like to check it out. It's somewhere linked in this very thread. Thanks for bolding though. Please read carefully what the minimum requirements are asking. Just says nln approved, not where you got your license.
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I'm transferring with less than a year until I graduate.... Am I crazy?!
LadyFree28 - I believe you when you say they asked! :) Just saying that if do a legit, accredited bridge program, you will meet minimum requirements for a lot of nursing jobs.
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I'm transferring with less than a year until I graduate.... Am I crazy?!
You aren't lying about where you got your BSN degree - so I am not understanding your reasoning for saying it would be "playing the semantics game" to put that. Most want magnet status - a BSN degree is giving them magnet status - it is YOUR opinion that bridge programs are fluff or not.
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I'm transferring with less than a year until I graduate.... Am I crazy?!
Yes, the VA and government entities will give you roadblocks about that. That is a known fact and issue if you got your license from an unaccredited institution. Unless your dream job is to work for these guys, it doesn't apply to you. By the way, I tried the link from Penn. I put in some schools for BSN, notably from TheCommuter's list in the link previously mentioned... it works. If you did your bridge program, you are a legit BSN RN. They seem they only care where you got your highest nursing degree and if THAT was accredited or not.
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I'm transferring with less than a year until I graduate.... Am I crazy?!
So you put in your BSN school that's accredited from the RN-to-BSN bridge...or your highest degree earned.
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I'm transferring with less than a year until I graduate.... Am I crazy?!
" Graduate of an NLN approved school of professional nursing. Licensed to practice professional nursing in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. BSN from an accredited program is required. *BLS Required." Umm.. Where does this say you have to get your RN license from an accredited program? It just says you need a bsn from an accredited school of nursing. There is a difference between the two. This is normal. My confusion is some people here are saying "most" hospitals require you to get your RN license from an accredited school, and still would like to see valid evidence for such claim. Also, NO ONE IS DEBATING the efficacy of "for profit" programs. And no one is debating the importance of CCNE or NLNAC accreditation! The point is that if you come out of one, YOU ARE NOT DOOMED. You have a thousands of options out there.
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I'm transferring with less than a year until I graduate.... Am I crazy?!
It seems that this criteria (albeit a bit biased and unfair to many) is highly variable in regards to region and employer's point of view of schooling. I've seen mostly 'Graduate from an accredited school of nursing. BSN preferred' and 'maintain x-state RN license'. At least that is common in NYC's top tier hospitals. The "RN license from accredited institution" is a new one for me... can anyone link or provide evidence hospitals that have advertised this? I am curious to know, maybe the area is so inundated with RNs for them to be that choosy. I've read that most look to see if you just have your BSN or highest degree earned. And perhaps ask where you did your rotations. But would still love to see some job postings that requires this. Regardless, the cold hard fact is that you can still get your BSN from a good school, and still advance your career in good standing. No speculation involved there. Lots and lots of nurses have graduated from nonaccredited schools and state colleges in the past, and went to do their rn to bsn, and then pursue advanced practice - this has been discussed ad nauseum on allnurses too. They are more than fine with employment! There is a reason why these programs exist. With that said..... it seems as your education is very subpar and you deserve way better. That totally changes things, compounds your current issues unnecessarily. It's best to find a new program in your specific case. I'm sorry you're going through this mess. Best of luck, and please keep us updated on your progress.
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I'm transferring with less than a year until I graduate.... Am I crazy?!
So you find a school (rn to bsn) that's **accredited** after the adn..... You will become a RN BSN from an accredited institution upon completion. I'll say it again for emphasis: RN BSN. TheCommuter has compiled a list some excellent programs. There is a lot to choose from. Please relax, you are absolutely not doomed from going to a school that lacks accreditation. But if you feel you are being robbed of your education... That kinda changes it a bit
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I'm transferring with less than a year until I graduate.... Am I crazy?!
Hospitals will not hire for thousands, if not millions of reasons. Did i miss something that requires further clarification? The idea, again, is that the OP finishes their current ADN, and then pursue a BSN from an accredited institution after via rn to bsn bridge (6months-1 year programs available). Minus the risk of changing schools and wasting time.
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I'm transferring with less than a year until I graduate.... Am I crazy?!
Please refer to this useful guide... :) https://allnurses.com/online-nursing-schools/i-completed-non-912463.html
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I'm transferring with less than a year until I graduate.... Am I crazy?!
I hope you know that there are nurses that got their nursing degrees from schools that no longer exist (for example, graduated a long time ago) and thusly, fall into the same category of those who graduated from an unaccredited nursing program. Many of them went on to get their BSNs with no issue and even became APRNs. Rather than risk applying for a BSN and starting ALL OVER AGAIN due to unsuccessful clinical credits transferred, as well as taking the risk of not being accepted... complete the program they are in now, pass their boards.... And get their BSN from a bridge program that is accredited after. You will end up with a BSN from an accredited institution - solves the accreditation worry completely! There are tons of rn to bsn bridge programs to choose from that will want you as a student if you just have an RN license!! My opinion is that i don't think it's worth the risks. That is not to say accreditation is not important... but it really should be the least of your concern, as the most important part is you passing the nclex and earning your license. Doors will open after. But more power to you if you can get into that bsn program, and having all your credits transfer and continuing where you left off
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Kingsborough Fall 2014 Clinical Applicants!
I hope it will be done by Tuesday - because that's the deadline!!! Congrats on your one year anniversary with kingsborough nursing program!! :)
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I'm transferring with less than a year until I graduate.... Am I crazy?!
Why don't you just finish your adn and pass your boards first? As long as you are allowed to sit for your boards, that's what's most important. Then go through with an RNtoBSN degree from an accredited University. There are many schools that will take you in if you just have an unencumbered license. A good one that comes to mind is western governs rn to bsn. Accreditation is not the end-all-be-all. It's purely voluntary for a school to be accredited by ccne or acen.
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Kingsborough Fall 2014 Clinical Applicants!
I am excited to meet everyone on Tuesday! Can you believe (if all goes as planned), we will be taking the NCLEX in less than 2 years?? It's four semesters but if you count the months from now, it's not even 2 years. Ahhh!!! My friend was making fun of me for being the "most optimistic person she's ever met". LOL By the way, I sent in my medical paperwork on wednesday and the nurse in A101 did not have a chance to review it yet (I've called on thursday and friday). It's making me nervous, as the deadline is really soon.
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Should I get my CNA over the summer?
That would be incredibly smart of you to do. I wish I did that before starting my nursing program, because now it doesn't make sense if I got my CNA due to me starting fundamentals this Fall. After completing fundamentals, nursing students can usually work as a nurse tech, patient care tech, or nurse's attendant at a hospital setting - essentially filling the role of a CNA. But given the chance to turn back time, I'd definitely do the CNA thing for a year while completing my prereqs. It will be a bit of a juggle with studying, work, and social life, but it should force you manage your time efficiently. It's definitely a habit you want to stick to as soon as possible!
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should i give it a shot
Give it a shot. Sorry if this was repeated, only skimmed the thread - but do your prereqs before you graduate from liberal arts. Nursing programs mostly focus on their prereqs and could care less about your overall GPA. The COLLEGE cares about your overall GPA. Anatomy physiology 1 and 2, microbiology, sociology, english 1 and 2, intro to psychology, physics, chemistry, any class that your program requires. Anatomy and physiology is the scientific basis to almost everything nursing related! You must give extra attention to detail, do NOT simply memorize, but critically understand concepts taught. No joking around with these classes, get help when you need it, or youtube/google it. Do not leave anything on the table. Also if focus on the HESI, and get a decent score, that ups your chances by a huge margin, I heard Lehman looks into the entrance exam heavily. It is never too early to practice some questions for this exam. Give it a shot. You can do it. You know how :) I've seen moms with 3 children and a two jobs are able to do it and don't make excuses along the way, why can't you? Best of luck.
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Associates: Queens versus Kings
They both offer the same - associates in nursing. I have a friend who went to queensborough, and graduated from their nursing program, and said it was "easy" to get in. However, I can only speak for kingsborough. I just got accepted to their program for fall 2014 with a 3.98 prereq gpa, and 128 NLN score. You have a really high chance of getting in if you score 130 or above (or at least 50% in all 3 sections) of the NLN. Most people above 120 usually get in, but I've seen some that don't because they did poorly in certain sections of the NLN. Other than that, kingsborough has its very own beach and queensborough doesn't. ;) A big downside is that this campus is only accessible by bus or driving, so commute can be very arduous and annoying most days.. and also the buses are crowded most of the time.
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Steps into becoming a NP
You need your RN first. To get that, you need your prereqs and take the entrance exam at your desired school. Spend a few years, and come out with your RN (whether it's adn or bsn is up to you but bsn is the longer but preferable route). Practice for a bit, hone your nursing skills and judgment, then apply to a NP program, come out in two years, pass your boards and then you should be able to practice as a nurse practitioner. (sounds easier said than done!)
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Quickest/best way to become a nurse and make money during the process - HELP!
Sometimes... flexibility and a bit of sacrifice on your part is key to achieving the huge goal of becoming a nurse. If it isn't life or death, you just gotta "suck it up" as a previous poster mentioned and stick it out for a few years, if not less. Besides, those years will go by really quickly once you are in the program. But for now I'd focus on making the grades to get into your desired program. This is actually where all your energy should be going to - getting accepted into a program. Many of my colleagues did NOT get into their desired program for a myriad of reasons, but one that really makes me sad is that one of them COULD'VE done it if she wasn't so busy juggling prereqs, work, and a social life/relationship. She was staying at parent's home, rent-free, no kids, no mortgage, and generally had low expenses all-around - in my opinion, she is VERY lucky. But voluntarily worked a minimum-wage office job (non-healthcare) that was causing stress and headaches and distractions for 30-40+ hours a week. The job was also a 1.5 hour commute EACH way. In this case, this was a pretty poor decision because it really showed in her grades, as well as her entrance exam. As her good friend, I really knew that she could've played this a lot smarter and ditched the minimum wage job and focused on studies. The trade-off is really something to think about though - minimum wage job or nursing school? Which is worth more? Obviously if you have bills to pay, mouths to feed, etc that is a completely different story. Basically the long-winded point I'm trying to make is that - if you don't have to, don't. But if you do, manage your time well and make your studies top priority. PS Also I've heard that you can work as a CNA or nurse tech once you've completed first semester clinicals. You probably don't have to take the class but inquire to find out more in your state forum here.