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Don't over estimate linfield's relationship with legacy...it is embarrassing how little that relationship is leveraged in the clinical rotation assignments

I am actually in Oregon but am from the Bay Area originally. I work at the a prestigious teaching hospital here. We recently had a talk with our chief of nursing and she described how the hospital would not hire grads from for-profit institutions like yours because the education is task-based versus a critical thinking approach. I just believe in a market where new grads cat get hired I don't think those from for profits will be on an even playing field. I am sure there are exceptions but I wouldn't over pay for a degree to find out if I am the lucky duck that defied the odds.

I hope you take my advice to heart. Summer College is a for-profit school and generally these programs are of low quality and high price. These types of programs began popping up when the phrase "nursing shortage" became popular. What is true now is that a nursing shortage does not exist for new grads with no experience. I think if you have a year or two under your belt the market is at least decent. The job market is tough for all BSN nurses, tougher for the ASN nurses from all the community colleges. The challenge for these jobs will almost be insurmountable because hospitals are aware of for profit schools and the quality of education. Because Sumner and for profits like them market to those who are eager and I hate to use this word-Desperate to get into a program. I know going thru the process to apply to a traditional school is challenging with no guarantee of acceptance, but you'll find yourself with a degree that the job market considers inferior and a ridiculous debt level that will impact you for the rest of your life. The burden from that debt will prevent you from ever pursuing anything else. My advice is to keep whatever job you have now and take prereqs at pcc or comparable junior college, get your CNA license and work that job- then apply to pcc/equivalent or linfield, univ port or other Bsn program. Sumner college will be the biggest mistake of your life.

I was a student nurse technician and was offered a position for when I graduate in August. From what I can tell, there is something called the Valor program but I haven't come met anyone on my floor who came from there. The majority were hired from the SNT pool or precepted there. I don't believe this is necessarily a hard and fast policy or anything, just something I've seen on my floor of the last 3 years of hire. We have recently had a round of hires already and most floors I know have hired the new grads already...about 3 per unit...plus there was a round of experienced hires and a couple thAt precepted...I would call and find out to confirm but my guess it will be a challenge...but I know vets get preference so maybe it will work for ur husband...good luck!

One last thing, I am so passionate about you not attending that school, post some messages so you can get private message privileges and we can really talk about it. It's 15 posts I think to get it. I can be wrong though.

Hello, I would advise you to think long and hard about this. Long and hard. I have a sister who went to Unitek and failed to pass the NCLEX on 3 attempts. It could be argued that she isn't bright enough, or it could be blamed on the education. Second, most of her clinicals were done in a lab versus in a hospital setting. I'm currently in nursing school as well, and understand a portion of clinicals has to be in lab, but by no means is it a huge percentage. Third, the cost-I know it sounds tempting especially based on high wages for RNs in the bay, but 80k-100k on a sub-par education is really poor. To give some perspective, John Hopkins (one of the top nursing schools in the entire country is 90k for accelerated program. I know the thought of such a convenient program is so tempting, especially if they promise prereqs to be done as well as degree in 2 yrs. but for some it takes a whole year just to get just prereqs done, how do they squeeze that and nursing school done. They will argue it can happen by going completely full time. Last and most important, proliferation of these for-profit schools happened because of a perceived nursing shortage, if u troll this forum, especially in Cali you will find the new grads from reputable, traditional, non-profit colleges can't find jobs. It does not bode well for grads of for-profit schools. I only bother responding because you have a daughter and family to think of. The decision to go to this school can potentially ruin you financially. Is it a guarantee you won't be able to find a job? Of course not, because anything can happen. The odds of you out competing a student from a reputable, traditional program in the current state for new grads is very slim. Programs like Unitek prey on people who are searching for a better career and like and they sell it partly by its convenience and the ease( you only have to pay-versus completing prereqs ad applying for admission). My recommendation is that you don't even go to the info session, because you'll be meeting with part admissions person/part salesman. Whatever statistics they give you will be very hard to verify. Please if you want to become an RN, do it the old fashioned way, no matter how difficult it will be for you, no matter that it will take you 5 years, because I will bet you a Unitek education will keep you on the sidelines from employment for a very long time. Please consider going the traditional route, for-profit schools are good for only vocational type jobs...with the trend towards Bachelor degrees, the industry does not consider RNs to be vocational-how would it sound if your attorney or a software engineer at google went to a school like Heald, Devry, or Unitek. Doesn't sound good, right? Please don't do it.

I came across this post, and can feel for you guys. I am actually in the accelerated bsn program at linfield (started Summer 2012). My guess is that many of you do not already have a BS, so you are applying for the regular track. Linfield values diversity, education (teaching or research), evidenced based practice, and holistic nursing. If you are not familiar with all these terms, then google. The written portion for the accelerated was a little weird. It was a series of questions with very limited space to respond. If the regular track is the same, or more traditional two page essay, I would really try to work some of these concepts into your statements. Think about what your essay says. You want to help people, nursing is your calling, you had a sick family member and a nurse impacted your experience. Although these are all valuable things to communicate, does it set you apart? If you do not have stellar, spotless grades, are white and female...how do those responses set you apart? My guess is that they do not. This is just the reality. To give you some perspective...half of my cohort of 56 is male. Linfield is really trying to have a diverse student population to reflect the community it serves. So if you can hit on diversity (doesn't have to be ethnicity, could be religion, experience (military), education, teaching (as in you want to teach), and leadership in your responses it will really set you guys apart. If you guys need more clarification, shoot my a private message and ill see how I can help with your specific situation.

i am in the summer 2012 cohort and just finished my second semester of the accelerated program...honestly theres gonna be good teachers and poor teachers, like any other school. truth is if you consider yourself to be a strong student, linfield will be pretty easy. youll have to study of course, but there is nothing tricky about the classes. just don't get caught up in the complaining and youll do fine. if you did well in microbiology and anatomy and physiology, the level of difficulty of the nursing courses are not greater. youll will have to write a ton tho, but if you take time to think about what you write, the grading is pretty soft.

NishaA I got accepted but ended up choosing another program. My tip is to kill the essays. Considering you are required to write three of them I think indicates SMU takes them serious. I actually have some good ideas for some essays that I think may set you apart. Private message me if your interested in hearing them.

The truth is I don't know what the law will mean. If another monster has been created or we are one step closer to the world Marx envisioned. I for one, am actually hoping the law grease the wheels for some hiring-yes selfish, because I can't expect the government to pass a law giving out free houses. As far as the knowledge you've bestowed on me gets dropped into the rhetoric bucket I've heard from both sides of the argument. Truth is the last thing I teased out of your post.

this comment illustrates why a discussion can be so challenging...you go from thousands buy insurance and cant get health care, to thousands go into hospitals to get put out-so you pretty much covered it all, those who buy insurance cant get health care, those who don't buy cant get health care...then you jump to women losing the right to an abortion...im sure you did it for hyperbole's sake...but who knows anymore

Uh oh...someone just threw illegal alien into the hat...gonna be fun now.

I admit my reply was snarky, but it wasn't a personal attack...lets not exaggerate on the cost of health care okay. There is no way the plan for a healthy 20 year old girl with no preexisting conditions will be over $500 a month, unless you choose one of the best plans out there. I have a middle of the road plan for $92 a month...so your $99 cable internet bill could actually buy insurance for one of your kids...but you'd rather have entertainment at home, and have the citizenry supplement your health care...so that makes two things you think your entitled too...health care and an undeserved apology.

Quote from SuperMeghan91 I'm very excited and I'm glad this has been put to rest. I've been uninsured or on medicaid for nearly my entire life. I know so many others who are uninsured and unable to get insurance due to the cost. I've gone to the ER when ill and was treated like a criminal by the doctors and secretaries just because I didn't have health insurance. This is a victory for the poor and uninsured in our country. Hear, hear! I'm quite pleased, mysel im assuming you are at a public library using their internet...and not home service you selected along with your cable over health coverage...here here!

i think this scenario is a perfect reason why change needs to happen. your situation is tragic. now flip that and what if the drunk driver who caused the accident didnt have health insurance...national health care is a complicated issue, above my pay grade. and above most people's.

i think teacher's unions are perfectly fine. and if children missing eyeballs need eyeballs, they deserve health care as well. i support education, but truth is sometimes it doesn't matter...we all know how bad smoking is...yet people will still smoke and when its time to treat the emphysema and lung cancer...go to Charity Hospital and get it fixed up...cuz Team Do Good will take care of it...i think your not paying any attention to what im saying. I actually acknowledge I do not understand Obamacare and its reverberating effects thru the economy to have any educated opinion. I like it cause it might get me a job a year from now. I have issue with thinking people who do well or accumulate wealth have the responsibility to ensure everyone has health care. doesnt mean i dont believe in a social net. see, youre doing what i pointed out earlier...everything doesn't have to be black and white, good or bad, rich or poor. im not all republican or all democratic..

big leap to say i dont believe in unions from my comments above, and yes I don't believe in all unions- screen actors guilds for example...i think its silly that there should be a union so a would be actor gets health care, while waiting tables because they don't want to get a more stable jobs, i dont think garbage men should have a union, because that job can be done by everyone and their salary should not be overinflated, I do believe NFL players should have a union, because they provide the product that goes on tv that generates billions of dollars- i believe in nursing unions that will get me a better wage because i am providing a vital service that requires training but that appears the stance that many take...grab an issue and big 'ol brush and paint one side evil and the other robin hood...and of course the example you choose is a rape victim to pull at the heart strings...why not talk about the person who eats fast food as often as they can, don't exercise and expect US to take care of them when they get diabetes...i know why...because it doesn't make the public feel sorry and sympathetic... i understand the system is broken and changes need to be made...in fact I'm a student nurse and am excited by the time I graduate, Obamacare goes in full effect so it can grease the wheels so your's truly can get a job. What I won't stay quiet about is when people who can't appreciate all sides trying to create a narrative that the person who does not have health care has no fault or personal responsibility. I understand the importance of a social net, and if the rape victim you speak of needs medical care and can't afford it, I believe their should be resources...see that separates me from you. i understand and see nuance. I don't believe all hospitals and corporations providing help care about people, and I don't think everyone who doesn't have insurance are poor victims. nothing is black and white.

so you want less talented people running an institution charged with caring for peoples health?

so the two of you prefer english made wool over your eyes versus american? right on. i prefer freedom fries over french fries...diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks.

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so its the fault of the hospitals, someone else thinks its the fault of the government, someone else thinks its the fault of the rich...im happy that this law will hopefully grease the wheels for hiring...but man where is all the entitlement coming from? if a person cant afford health insurance, thats on that person...not anyone else. i do believe there should be a social net...but to say its everyone elses fault but the person who cant find a job that pays well enough to get health insurance...this is america, the right to pursue wealth and the right not to pursue wealth.

a bird in the hand is worth more than two in the bush.

hey guys...some of you are close to completing the absn program with SMU...can you guys give some details on what the clinicals were like? location, hours, etc...the more detail the more appreciated! thank you!

hey guys...those of you who already started the absn program...can you guys let me know where is your first clinicals are at? Are they all hospital based? i really appreciate any insight. THANK YOU!

im not sure if i understand your question...are you looking to get into nursing program, but do not currently have any prerequisities as of now? or are you looking for a way to get accepted to a program without having to take any prerequisities? the answer to the latter is a definitive No. I don't mean to sound snarkey...but the definition of prerequisites is that they are required first.