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iPN troubles
I too was wondering about moving to another state ....Should i volentary give up my nl here in FL , before i go....My NL is a active/susspention status at this point.I was wondering how you go about getting a license in another state......? DO you contact the bon in that state and ask how to obtain a NL in that state , do you have to take there state board test ? Another thing i was wondering , i have read some post on this site stating you may not use your tiltle as a nurse if its suspended . I know a few nurses who had disaplinary actions against the NL and where able to work in Costa rica , Bahammas , and mexico....These nurses travel over there 6 months out of the year work as a nurse. Its not like nurses are trying to get away with not complying with all the restrictions of ipn , Its just that why waist ones knowlege of medicine , and many years of experience . Anyone out there knows how that would work ....A nurse is always a nurse its like riding a bike you never forget ...And we are all special its in our blood and our hearts forever , even if we are addicts . I am so angry with the way the bon handles there own....Where is the fairness in this ? We are human not case numbers.....We should all be given a fair chance , look into the alligations for each of us before you ruin our privacy our reputations and put false information on the internet and stamp it .Every case or should i say nurse , have differnt issues that forced us into ipn m but we all get the same treatment.......We dont even have any legal protection as a cold blooded murder would have ....Its so sad to know that anyone can make allegations and half the time its false. And the bon Dr. Evals are always the same recomondations IPN . Its very disturbing to know just how many nurses cant find work after IPN is done......Who is in charge of making sure allegations are even found to be a true and ligete reason one is guilty of anything...
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Question for Jackstem..Suboxone
Well what if the IPN Dr , you had to go see agrees you have a serious painfull , longterm injury and stated i had to get off Methodone i was using for pain of couse prscribed , and switch to suboxone as a long term medication for pain management.......????
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iPN troubles
is there anyone aware esp the bon .....please some of us nurses realy deserve another look into the allegations taken upon us.....we gave are lives to those sick , dying , recovering , for many years ......some of us even have major injuries we have to deal with for the rest of our lifes.......after tallahasee starts to see , good nurses with many years of experience are giving up there license due , to the brick walls and waiting to provide what realy happened the time of allegations , and how we were treated at our dr.ipn evals.....please who is it we should contact ? we want to speak to the board . proof we are good nurses not a case number....i mean please taking rx meds while on workers comp and having my eval at that time?????? i wasnt even working due to a nursing related injury.......someone please listen to us we are human...and deserve to be heard.....
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iPN troubles
I am just wondering as i know for sure , many ,many nurses have Rx and are in pain management and need there medications , just as a diabetic needs insulin.....I myself was injued while restraining a pt , who in return broke my shoulder in 3 places.....THat was over 4 years ago .....I now have to have 3 surgies ... And srtuggle with pain daily .... The thing is i worked while on pain management for 4 out of ten years. Peers nor emplyers never noticed any imapirment as i was very compliant with my prescibing Dr. who knew of my career . So can anyonr tell me > If taking your medicine as ordered by A Dr. to benifet and when all other pain tx has failed . Who is it who automaticly makes the law...Nurse injured ... Nurse...Nurse suffer in pain...Or nurse... Loose there meaning in life......Are career. Those nurses not in ipn are able to practice while on Rx by Dr. Those nurses who ended up in ipn for either false allegations or ua showing Rx meds in system ......Where is the compassion for those nurses who have been injured on the job.... Forced to see Dr....Who clearly aware of your career.....Im very confused a prescribing Dr. for pain management would for sure be monitor there Pt...If any abuse noted It would be that Dr. who should be responisble to help there pt... I would like to know who decides if Nurse needs something for pain
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Need some support Florida IPN
I had the same issues w FL , had to have surery for injury while working and lost my NL
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please be honest! has any nurse continued working in direct patient care
Hello , i read your post , congrates on being able to legaly pracice as a RN as im sure , like most of us nurses is all we know ....Patient care....I myself am awaiting to be able to practice again , the problem is i need a job .......I have no experience at all in anything but health care... Im currently trying to do a pheb. course just to get by.... I have never heard of a dyalysis tech. Its sounds like something i might look into. Do you know if there are any classes or do you need to be certified ? Should i just go to a clinic explain , My 12 years exp. In the med feild and just be honest about awaiting to go back to work as LPN??? Thanks , in need of job.......
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iPN troubles
I too , hope someday we can prove we are not criminals , we are caring nurses who gave our lifes and bodies to the public , ending in are personal injury , requiring sugury and rx medication , to control are pain so we may keep giving are gift to those who need,,,In anycase 5 years i worked without any impairment nor indangering any pt, on my rx/ as my dr. was aware of my career.....But one ua , and your a criminal so sad.Esp after 12 years of giving. I realy cant understand how the bon allows this to go one without realy checking into the allegations/and also protecting us nurses.The shotage of good nurses continues.Where is legal aid to protect us????????????
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iPN troubles
Southernpoint...Thankyou for the feedback , i know this is frustrating to most of us who realy need to get are point across and provide are evidence to the board. The thing that realy hurts me is when they make these allegations public record and fail to leave out important information Allegations should be investigated before we are even speaking to the investigater....We should be provided with some kind of attorney before giving a statement..True criminals have more rights then nurses....I called the bon today requesting papers to give up my nl , i was told i had to write a letter to the bon and they would .Im very sad that it has come to this , but i did the ipn thing for a year , got off all my rxs as ordered , went to there ordered outpt ,ect ect , and had clean uas all year and still pears had the power to give one bad eval.....All others throughout that year were good , positive , but like i said the month i was waiting for , to at least try to find a job with ipn contract on my back never came.If you found a good attorney please , please let me know. If anything i can use my experience with faulse allegations, hokey dr. Being told i could be right back to work after signing ipn>>>>>>Even if i get nothing out of this it may help other nurses who , think going with ipn is easier then waiting to be heard by the bon . Another thing when reading ones disapline report on line , its like someone just made up there own theroy of what happen and why you are unsafe to do you job...I found 5 statements in mine , that were wrong who wrote this ?????For all to see.I wont be back to this site for sometime as it only upsets me to see all of us ,,,, well the ones who dare to say anything>> That we are all hurting and angry , but nothing is being done.....
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iPN troubles
Please , i need advice too. Last March 09 , i was basicicly forced to sign the 5 year contract , and was told i could keep my NL. After it was suspended on 1/09...Pending a allegation unfounded from back in Jan.07.......After the allegations i was asked to go for ipn dr eval what a joke 10 min.....Rx for my medical condition. No illegal drugs urine or hair.....I walked out of that eval thinking everything was fine..First of all i wasnt even activly working i was on workers comp..Had a broken shoulder as good nurses are being pushed out because . We all think ipn is supportive untill you sign and find out , you just signed you career away ....I will be signing my license away this week as i nolonger have it in me to fight them or go with them..Oh and all this and im clean and proud...If anything some state ipn pushes people into bad situations...I will keep trying to write bon. Requesting to go before them with my trueth not........The horrible agencys facility i took on the day of Jan.22. Good luck to all.... Gena still a nurse at heart......Paper states im some terrible nurse. Yeah ok...
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iPN troubles
I have come to the point , where i just want to sign my license away , as ipn is a joke , i believe bon doesnt look into the full complaints and look into the allegations , we are just a number , forget the long hard years of giving are lives and time taking care of are own family /kids. We gave many miles , smiles and worked harder for those who need good caring nurses and there familys.Forget are needs , if your hungy or you have to pee.....Ok maybe after you take the treatment you didnt have time to do. Here is my story . I became a lpn in 2000. The medical feild was my calling , i was one of those nurses who felt good to help others even through the high pt load and being treated bad. Back in 2006 i was working agency that year and had many facilitiys requesting me back , no problems . One day i was asked if i wanted a one week 7-3 contract at a facility i had never been to , despite many nurses warning me of problems they had experienced there i wanted the week shift . I should of just never took the keys , and i wouldnt be without my license. First warning was due to change pt one fenteyl patch , and found no old one on this pt who was a total care pt. I reported this to the supervisor because the 11-7 nurse sign it was there. Next total care pt fentenyl patch due to be changed again no old. Reported it again. Requested supervisor go withme to check all patches and all were signed to be on but were not on. I was asked to apply to all 10 pt ,at that point i was very behind and agervated, as a nurse i know i had to get dr orders for each one , not one nurse would help. i called my agency crying , wanting to leave , but was threatened with abandonment.So idid the best i could with having 30 blind and deaf residents under my license.Make a long story short. 3pm came and it was time to count with the oncoming nurse , guess what 1 fentenyl patch was missing from the count.....I was in fear i may have put it on the wrong pt. So i ran to every pt checking , it could of killed someone 100mgs. The staff and nurses were so mean had me crying badgerung me. I called my agency boss . She had me come straight to the office for urine screen. So i left after getting into my car , the patch that was unaccounted for was in my back pocked , still seeled with pt room numb. and name/ With relief came fear. Would they call the police and accuse me of stealing if i brought it back ?I was happy i didnt make medical error or kill someone i called my boss , she told ne to bring her the patch and do the drug screen. I did she knew it was a innocent mistake. She called them and told them of the mistake, they still called the police , after a clean urine and a police report stating inocent mistake and the 11-7 nurse who signed patches was presant should be interveiwed. Well this was the end of agency for me. My boss then wrote a letter for me explaining she has had many problems with her nurses going to the facility and no longer sends them there, also explained i worked all over pinellas facilitys with good faith and always requested back. So i moved on went on staff for about 6 months was very happy as facility happy with me . That ended when a pt became violent and broke my shoulder .I had to get a workers comp attornney and was out of work and was a week later . I was asked to go see a bon dr.Due to a allegation almost ayear ago , i was hesitent ,was told if i didnt go i would loose my license , so cast and all i drove myself to tampa for this prescriptions in hand and proof i was not even working a due to injury .No big deal i thought. After shoulder healed found my self a nice job , doing well raising 2 kids on my own . I had been working aprox a year when out of nowere right at xmass time i was seved with papers stating my license had been suspended due to a evaluation 2 years prior from a dr who only talked to me for 10 min wrote her note and done.Anyway shocked i agreed to ipn thinking i could keep my job and do as they say , well let me tell you!!!!!!!!!After awhole year of there reqierments and urine tests at 45 a drop being labled as a adict because i was on narcotics after my injury and even though i had rx and was not working Via workers comp. I couldnt believe it took them 2 years and the allegations where false there was no truth , of what realy happend the day of jan 22.But with no money to fight it i signed there contract did everything they asked clean urine tests for a year . The cost of the support groups every week and 450. Dr eval 12 weeks of extensive out pt theropy.My contract was signed in march , i was told i had 5 years with them ,but after a year i could return to practice under there supervison. I attened my home support group every week ,for 6 months Nov 2009 , was to be my return back to work depending on my support group opinion....Little did i know , i shared a relationship break up with them , after group i was ready for my report as they were always good , stating i was sober , had good judgment and able to handle problems well . Not this one....The group My support group. Stated on my evaluation they didnt think i was ready to return to work I was crushed .I felt more time out of work and a nonsupportive support group/ I called my case worker the next day and she suggested transfering me to another group as she to knew it wasnt right , but ipn puts your lives in other addicts and recovering addicts hands , and just have to hope and pray there realy supportive and want to see you succseed Anyway i was so upset i just gave up that was 6 months ago , very frustated i gave up. I spoke to a attorney who stated he could of presented my evidence to the bon , and the allegations on my part , but because i thought ipn was the best option at the time , it would be hard and a lot of money to reopen the case and present my side to the bon......Very hurt feeling i gave my life to those in need as all of us nurses do and noone oversees some of the best nurse BON is loosing because we just cant seem to get to prove we are humans who care enough to do are jobs . I feel we are all just case numbers without Names........... I can only pray oneday my case will be reveiwed and i will be agnologst as a nurse not a number....
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New to IPN in FL - Looking for a little insight
if you ever need support to help get you through this please post a reply, im sure we both have long storys
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New to IPN in FL - Looking for a little insight
Welcome, to the , ipn jail, no just kiding, i was reading your post and you are right where i am , exept i aleady had to do 12 weeks of iop. i have to go to 3 na meetings a wk and pay mayjor fine.Also ipn is the goverment for 5 years , yes 5 years, they have to know when why were, it hoorible.First let me tell you 3 years ago i accidently walked out of a temp job with a sealed fentny; patch in my pocet and when i realized it was there i freaked out and called my agency , boss, i told her i was afraid to bring it back because the facility was so mean they mat all the police thinking i stole it,She told me to bring the patch to her office and she would call them, that she did, i then did a drug screan that was negitive , then she brought the patch back and explained it was inocent mistake.She then told me she was not sending her nurses there anymore due to the prob shw has had with missing narcotics.the next day the facility called her and stated some card was missing and wanted to blame me , i was angry, because why would they wait 72 hrsbefore they thought something was missing, i was over it so . i quit agency and went on staff for the next to years, before i got the letter from the bon, my nl was susspended.12-08, that facility lied so bad,i then was asked to go to ipn eval i thaought fine, i was not working and recovering from a broken shoulder. i also had prescriptions i was taking nothing that i would be concidered unsafe to practice , i been doing nursing for 9 years and have many letters of recomendation.no the ipn saw me for:banghead: 5 min and in that 5 min turned my life upside down.Ipn is good for nurses who need extencive treatment , but ones who never just got a slap on the back then to go there own way. We will be the ones who are labled and the public is loosing out on good hard working nurses.Ipn makes it so hard alot of nurses end up giving up or cant stand having be treated like a criminal being moniterd.Good luck.wish you well and i am to in it for the long 5 years.
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Need some support Florida IPN
i feel for your concern, i to have just underwent a ipn evalustion, i am was to prescribed medications for several shoulder breaks and am now facing total replacement to my r shoulder.Even though i had valid priscriptions and was currently on workers comp.The evaluater labled me unsafe to work, now let me remind you i had been working as a nurse nine years and had never, been acused of impairment nor deverting, i thought i had nothing to worry about so i went, then i found my self unemployed and just finished iop, now trying to jump thrugh ipns hoops, its not fair we have real medical issues, that doesnt make us a bad nurse,.I struggle everyday i gave so many years to caring and one dr who only saw me for 5 min took my pride my life and another good nurse from the feild.