nursedude

Sometimes seeing the ol' see through pants is a real morale boost...

Yosemite, No... That's my answer. I have thought about becoming a PA, CRNP and even an MD. Quite frankly, I wouldn't recomend any career to anyone in healthcare at present. I think that healthcare is under such severe financial strain right now that it's about to implode. Doctors, nurses, xray techs, all the folks in healthcare are dependant on an archaic and expensive system. How much longer and how much higher can the cost of healthcare get before it becomes un-affordable? I'd say that within the next 10 or 20 years we'll see the end of healthcare in the USA as we know it. I'm suggesting that soon government sponsored healthcare will arrive on a nationwide basis. Once that happens the system (healthcare) will collapse. Well, that's just my opinion, especially here in Pittsburgh. As far as your pointing out the salaries being higher in bigger cities I agree but also worth noting is that the salaries are most likely higher in those big cities because the cost of living is higher as well.

You can also see some of the other posts regarding the money issue here: https://allnurses.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7367

One of the things you could do is... QUIT. The only time that nursing wages go up is when there is a shortage of nurses... Another option: Convince all of your nurse friends to call off on the same day.... If half of the nurses in the USA called off The country would come to a standstill. If those same nurses quit their jobs on the same day and waited until the want ads came out the following Sunday in the newspaper, all of those nurses would most likely get a raise and a sign on bonus to boot. Option three: Stay at your current job, bust your butt, work really hard, try not to catch the flu or hepatitis, avoid needle sticks, keep wiping butts and taking grief from doctors and maybe if you brown nose your supervisor really hard, you'll get a whopping 2 or 3 percent raise - almost enough of a raise to cover the increase in the premiums you have to pay for your medical insurance!!!

Don't castrate your earning potential... Do anything BUT nursing.

"You have to remember what nursing is all about, it is caring for the patient." The above is a true statement primarily in health care facilities/settings only... If you are a nurse in another setting - like insurance, then your focus becomes that of the bottom line - sometimes at a loss of care for the patient.(Gee - that almost sounds like a hospital?)

If I was still into being used and treated like .... Hmmmm.... I can't think of what it is that they treat nurses like... Anyhow, Nursing is a good profession if you able to make many sacrifices and live with them. I'd say that if you have an addictive personality and your into personal sacrifice - you'd do great! Perhaps, if you want a career (as opposed to a job) you might consider computers, or law or business. If you want a job, consider nursing, auto-technician and drywall installer...

Oramar, Look for the Hospital I was talking about to become a UPMC facility(ies) within a year and 1/2... ND

https://allnurses.com/bb/Forum80/HTML/000005.html Mijourney, This link is for your crack or crevice or gap or whatever... I don't believe that my beliefs or ideas should be above anyone elses. I do believe that I have an opinion - just as you do. How I chose to voice my opinions and values - etc are up to me. You know, I think you are an interesting poster as well.. ***331*** posts since March of last year! Congratulations - you should be proud of such an accomplishment. [This message has been edited by nursedude (edited March 03, 2001).]

https://allnurses.com/bb/Forum80/HTML/000005.html Mijourney, This link is for your crack or crevice or gap or whatever... I don't believe that my beliefs or ideas should be above anyone elses. I do believe that I have an opinion - just as you do. How I chose to voice my opinions and values - etc are up to me. You know, I think you are an interesting poster as well.. ***331*** posts since March of last year! Congratulations - you should be proud of such an accomplishment. [This message has been edited by nursedude (edited March 03, 2001).]

Go here to see why I ask if anyone is smoking crack... https://allnurses.com/bb/Forum1/HTML/001850.html

Go here to see why I ask if anyone is smoking crack... https://allnurses.com/bb/Forum1/HTML/001850.html

I was going to reply to a different thread. Something about nursing wages when this one caught my eye and after I read the "platform for federal legislation" the first thought that came to mind was ****YOU MUST BE SMOKING CRACK - RIGHT?**** "Our platform is for federal legislation on these specific issues 1. Nationwide staff to patient ratios based on patient acuity; in every area that nursing care is provided. Hospitals, nursing homes, clinics etc... 2. National legislation that prohibits the use of mandatory overtime that will protect all bedside caregivers. 3. National legislation that will put enforceable and strong whistleblower protections into place for all healthcare workers. 4. National legislation that will prohibit the performance of skilled nursing functions by unlicensed staff. 5. Restrictions on unsafe floating practices. 6. Appropriate monetary compensation for skills and science based knowledge." Hello???? Federal legislation that regulates how hospitals opreate? Um, Okay, lets join the MNM and while we are at it, lets abolish managed care and jump right into bed with socialized and/or government sponsored healthcare...This all sounds like some minority rights march or something. Look, the current state of healthcare is piss-poor enough...Why in the world would you want to drag the federal government into the middle of how hospitals operate???? How freaking narrow minded can you be??? While you are at it lets make sure we have a zero tolerance policy at hospitals too. Oh, and lets make sure that the environmentalists are on site to inspect each and every red biohazard container that leaves the building. Oh, and here is another idea, lets mandate that all hospital meals have the appropriate amount of foods from each of the major food groups...Lets mandate ourselves, our wallets, our taxes and our country right out of healthcare... Oh, while we are at it - lets have a federal mandate for a nationwide dress code for all nurses. White? Blue scrubs? Maybe we can mandate cute little teddy bear scrubs. Clogs or White sneakers? Please... MNM you are getting more embarassing as time goes on.

I was going to reply to a different thread. Something about nursing wages when this one caught my eye and after I read the "platform for federal legislation" the first thought that came to mind was ****YOU MUST BE SMOKING CRACK - RIGHT?**** "Our platform is for federal legislation on these specific issues 1. Nationwide staff to patient ratios based on patient acuity; in every area that nursing care is provided. Hospitals, nursing homes, clinics etc... 2. National legislation that prohibits the use of mandatory overtime that will protect all bedside caregivers. 3. National legislation that will put enforceable and strong whistleblower protections into place for all healthcare workers. 4. National legislation that will prohibit the performance of skilled nursing functions by unlicensed staff. 5. Restrictions on unsafe floating practices. 6. Appropriate monetary compensation for skills and science based knowledge." Hello???? Federal legislation that regulates how hospitals opreate? Um, Okay, lets join the MNM and while we are at it, lets abolish managed care and jump right into bed with socialized and/or government sponsored healthcare...This all sounds like some minority rights march or something. Look, the current state of healthcare is piss-poor enough...Why in the world would you want to drag the federal government into the middle of how hospitals operate???? How freaking narrow minded can you be??? While you are at it lets make sure we have a zero tolerance policy at hospitals too. Oh, and lets make sure that the environmentalists are on site to inspect each and every red biohazard container that leaves the building. Oh, and here is another idea, lets mandate that all hospital meals have the appropriate amount of foods from each of the major food groups...Lets mandate ourselves, our wallets, our taxes and our country right out of healthcare... Oh, while we are at it - lets have a federal mandate for a nationwide dress code for all nurses. White? Blue scrubs? Maybe we can mandate cute little teddy bear scrubs. Clogs or White sneakers? Please... MNM you are getting more embarassing as time goes on.

Oramar and Mijourney... How are you gals doing? It's been a while but good to see you two are still around. Oramar, I did not read the smoking gun article but I did read your post and Mijourney's as well. You know, there is currently and has been much "hype" about "HMO horror stories": The executives are stealing all the profits, the people who answer the phone don't have any medical experience etc etc etc.... Oramar, I know you live hear in the Pittsburgh area and I want to ask you if you have ever seen one of those billboards for UPMC Healthplan? The one I am talking about is the one with the motto about "your doctor making the choices not your HMO" or something like that. Anyhow, I guess my point is "Who do you think runs the HMO's?" I like Mijourney, don't have an ounce of sympathy for MD's. Do the names Milliman and Roberts ring a bell? Both of those guys are MD's who are partly responsible for making managed care what it is today. They gave birth to the guidelines that determine hospital lengths of stay and that kind of evolved into DRG, CPT, HCPCs and ICD9's. Thanks to a couple of DOCTORS patients now get the boot in 24 hours for something 10 or 20 years ago would have kept them as an inpatient for a week. Oramar, I have worked at several managed care companies. Highmark BC/BS, CIGNA and a company called Intracorp. They all were responsible for determining/enforcing how long people stayed in a hospital, how much $$$$ was paid for medical care and treatment and guess what? All those decisions were made by folks with an MD after their name. Mijourney, I don't disagree with you on the statement of "industrialized" approach, my opinion is that we are now in a phase of healthcare called "commercialized healthcare" The only thing worse would be government sponsored or socialized healthcare... PS Oramar- "Choose a hospital (or an HMO) as if your life depended on it!