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I agree, students should not be spoon fed. That is a given. However, helping someone is not spoon feeding. I am meaning more on the line of this example. I am not sure how the program is where you teach, but here is a layout of ours: 77% to pass 2 F's and your out one day you can miss, more and you fail I had 3 ppl that missed a passing grade by a point or less, 1 of them by one question. The tests we took were scantron. Students were not allowed to go back and check for possible errors on the tests, not even for the one question. I had to almost be carried into class while I was sick because it was the second day of the flu. I was told I would be failed if I didn't show up. Our class had 14 ppl fail math. Why? Because math was taught in 30 minutes on one day and then four tests over the semester. I was not attacking all educators, just merely saying that bad ones are out there. every program has them. I don't think that it is alright for most to fail out either as u had stated. for those with issues that I talked about previously, I don't think it is fair. People who fail out may have had some special circumstances happen.

i would like to say that to you valmor that it is not always the teacher's fault when a student fails. all of the things that you said are exactly why some fail out. with that said, i think that some nursing instructors are exactly as your repliee stated. do i think that anyone can be a nurse, absolutley not. i do, however, feel that many potentially great nurses fail because of instructors, some instructors. i hate to be forward, but you sound as if you have been accused in the past for things such as this. not saying that is the case, just sounds like it for your defensiveness. i think that instructors should not judge. critique is what they should be doing. there is a difference. critique would let them know what they are doing wrong and how they can improve. this seems to be something that some instructors lack. instructors are not only there to teach and guide students, but also to motivate them. i do much better in classes in which i like the teacher. you know that saying "you can catch more flys with honey than vinager," there is a reason it is a saying. it is the truth. an instructor can captivate their audience, even on boring subjects, if the student body like them. i could safely say that there would be a drop out decrease of 25% if some instructors had a change of attitude. after a poor attitude is established, respect is lost, and that goes both ways. show me an instructor that expresses and shows that they want their students do well, and i will show a vast improvement in passing rates in nursing programs.

I started with 86 ppl in my class. Last semester was my first. At break, we were down to 39 ppl. Between failing classes and just not being able to handle the stress is why ppl are gone from mine. But I really believe that nursing school is designed for the majority to fail. Short class that hold weight in the program cause problems. By the time you know your hurting in a class, its too late to bring it up. The average graduating class is about 20-25 out of 80-90 starting. Something is wrong with that. I think that nursing should not be a two year course at community colleges. I think that would result in a higher passing rate.

Some places are phasing them out when others are bringing them in. There is one in texas that basically eliminates the LPN year. I hope you can find one. Good luck.

You can search online. I can remember where exactly but I have found some top names for 10 bucks a set. If i remember, I will post it.

Pt was elderly male. Chief complaint: "Wife got to frisky, and hurt me." Baseball bat through the orifice to the descending colon and it was stuck. (souvenir bat mind you) We were all shocked to see him walk into the ER. I know it is not really funny, but you didnt see the X ray.

I am an EMT. I work the weekends, 48 hrs straight. You could take a EMT class and do that. It helps for studying, I get quite a bit of down time. Mondays are a little rough sometimes, but its worth it to be able to have a full time job and only work 2 days. Also, being from illinois, we have Prehospital Nurses here. They pretty much are medics. We have one where I work. Working 2 and a half days, she will make 75000 this year. And a lot of that is sleeping. Thats the best part, the money still comes even when your studying, playing a video game, or even sleeping.

I would say this, GPA is not everything. I kinda read fast through this one. If I understand right, you have a BA in something else, correct? And wanting to go to nursing school at a community college, correct? 2.3 GPA is not educational suicide. How many you prereqs do have to take? If you do well, you should be able to bring it up a bit, but it will be rigorous. I don't think that a community college will even look at your BA stuff unless you are using some of those classes for transfer, which some may not at all. A lot of the entrance to nursing school is the pre-entrance test score and how well you did in prereq classes. Things like prior experience can go a long way as well. As for the accelerated program, I think it would be in your best interest to go through the cc program instead of that. It is hard to cram the knowledge of a nurse in a year. It is very rigorous, will not be able to work at all. Nursing school will limit your working, let alone accelerated. Min of 3.0, they usual take about a 3.5 GPA. It is really rough, better to go slow and get the info and skills and increase your pay as you go. Thats what I am doing.

I am currently attending the LPN program at rend lake. Half way through it. Let me be the first to tell you, not easy. I was 4th in high school class, international honor society, 3.89 gpa through my BA in Psych, and at no point did I think it was easy. Rend Lake it a tough school for nursing, any program in nursing worth going to is hard though. You don't really wanna breeze through it and know nothing when you get done. It is difficult, but worth it. You have to love it though. I mean, yeah rend lake has had a 100% pass rate on the NCLEX for the last three years, but they lose 70% of the class. not and exaggeration either (86 accepted 26 grads at the end). I am only one of 2 ppl left out of 8 (close friends). I barely made it out passing. Granted I had a lot on my plate, but no way a breeze. the instructors are tough, but very fair. Same rules for everyone, and they stick to them. Half the people out missed too much class, majority, or failed some togh classes. I only say this to prepare you for the life outside nursing to get used to being dead for a little while. With that said, I love it and it is worth it. My wife took the psb test. she said it was easier than the net. We took the net at the same time but she had some prereqs to kill first.