sally22

Try contacting the nursing boards and councils in Australia, or view their web sites. Deakin University in Victoria is a leader in Nursing so this may be a good place to start. Victoria University, Australian Catholic University, University of Sydney, Nursing college of NSW and more. It really depends on which state you are in. anyway this would be a fantastic direction to take so good luck

Hi Joanne 4321, The only countries that Australia accepts courses in Nursing for registration are UK, Ireland, New Zealand, USA and Canada where the course is conducted in English and a small minority or European countries. There are some courses in Singapore accepted but the applicant must pass the english test (IELTS or OET). Thailand may have course that help get registration in Australia but they still need to pass competency or study here to finish there qualifications. These courses in Thailand do not lead to automatic registration and may require one year preregistration course or bridging course depending on the state nursing council or boards decision. http://www.asnc.com.au may be of assistance. Hope this helps. Regards Sally22

Before you go to NZ get your registration in Australia, when you do you can apply under mutual recognition for registration in NZ. Good Luck!

Just to let everyone know community centers in the Provinces are being used exaclty for this and with all that we still have 100's of 1000's of nurses without work. But remember this is not just common to nurses it is common to all professions. An unbelievable percentage of the population is unemployed. The big question is what does the population do to change this. Take lower pay?? Accept their position?? Work for nothing?? Look for opportunities overseas where there is a shortage of labor?? It is easy to comment and suggest to give hope but it must be for the purpose of betterment of the families position and enable the person to FEED the family. Free labor, even though altruistic, does not feed families and the money spent can devastate families.

Sorry I do not know anything about either, what I do know is that in learning the student is the major key. No study no learning. Universities can accurately predict the expected outcome by the number of hours a student puts into their studies and the method they use. spoon fed answers will not help you to learn. So it better to ask can i put in the effort with support and achjive the result I am after. If you can mkake the committment then you are more thatn 75% there.

Originally Posted by jmolina23 "When one wishes to do something, it gets done. But when one makes excuses as to why something is not done, then it just does not happen." The first step in any journey is to know where you are going. The second step is to take action - step by step, each step will take you toward what you are asking for. The third step is to believe you actually have it, know that it is coming to you. Finally when the opportunity arises take it no matter where it leads you for you cannot predict how the world will work to provide you with your dream. you can only ask, believe and accept. Remember, if we are not grateful for what we have now no one will give us anymore. Who really gives to ingrates? But everyone wants to give to those who are thankful and show gratitude no matter what they receive. Too often we think things are bad but really they are only redirecting us to what we are really asking for. Know your dream, believe in it, do what you have to do everyday and do it properly, be ready to receive when it comes to you and watch the magic happen. good luck because keeping the thought of your dream in your mind and being thankful and grateful for something you do not have is hard work but it will pay off. Try, and experience, do not believe, prove it right or wrong what have you got to lose???

"I think the US should not allow people to take the NCLEX unless they have a visa. Think of the money spent in review centers and fees for a dream that changes are will never come through". Silly question I suppose but how do you get a Visa without the NCLEX and Registration in the USA?? Like sailing without a ship eh.

I have been asking around now you have raised questions and have found that if a nursing college fails to have one board passer in 3 years they lose their license. They can also lose it if their performance is very low. I think it needs to be stronger than this so the financial pressure is placed back on the nursing college and the Govt really needs to take action on this to follow up and sanction and remove the licenses where the colleges do not meet the standards. The nurses are the ones to suffer here and they should not.

Thanks suzanne4, this is to the point and it is refreshing to know some people are doing something for the community when all seems hopeless. A number of nurses are involved in community activities, normally through the church, and it would be nice to see more community activities. Perhaps the others out there can suggest possibilities for simple medications, bandages and other simple essentials that can make a difference. And yes perhaps we can start a community education program run by nurses with time and waiting for overseas placements or work opportunities. This may be possible if we consider promoting it throught he Universities and colleges. This could also be a way for recent graduates to gain some experience, although not hospital, in treating the poorer members of the commnity. Sometimes it is as simple as just talking to them to educate on alternatives and family. I was reading the Australian Govt takes an approach with the nurses in their country and the Aboriginals are given nursing based on a family structure and education as well as medication and treatment. Wouldn't it be extraordinarily nice if we could somehow get a program similar to this off and running here in the Philippines

"And until these second courser programs sprung up, there was never any issues with the skill levels for most, but they have gone way down by the sudden increase in nursing students, now up to just under a million. And your country is unable to provide jobs for any of them, and it is not the responsibility of other countries that they be required to assume these nurses, and this is what you are not understanding." Why would anyone think it is the responsibility of other countries to take these nurses. And why is nursing different to any other supply and demand situation. When you have too many the price drops or businesses collapse. If the product is no good then no one will take it. And if it is no good then in the case of nurses it is the Government that needs to fix it. Pressure from other countries and the general community will create this change if it is really needed, but with s many passers there seems to be enough nurses for most of the countries with some countries actively and aggressively seeking Filipino nurses. If second coursers do not make the grade let the prospective employers make the decision to employ or not. first or second or even third coursers If they pass the NLE and the other countries requirements what is the problem. We all know not all the nurses will pass the requirements of the countries they want to apply to. So what. Why should this deter them.? Why shouldn't the nurses here look for and take the opportunities as they arise, first or second or even third coursers? Why are they any different to others? A nurse is a nurse if they have passed all requirements and clinical experience. The only argument here is how they will obtain the clinical experience or if there are countries that will take them without it and train them. "In my home state if a school has a low passing rate, it is reviewed by the BON and our agencies such as the NLN. One school was closed for admissions until the ciriculum is sorted out. The Number of MSN nurses are counted each year and credentials are reviewed annually. No new graduate of a MSN would be allowed to teach unless they had experience as a RN (3-5 years)" Correct, the colleges need to be accountable to provide the full course and meet acceptable passing levels. This is the RED FLAG. The clinical training if unsatisfactory, is part of this and part of the hospitals responsibility as well. The finger is clearly pointed at the government and it needs to take responsibility for the mass failures. Closure of colleges happens in a number of countries and is essential to maintain standards in the long run. The colleges will not self manage if there is nothing to lose and the students are often ignorant of the outcomes.Who should expect a college to be inadequate if it is licensed by the Government of the country.

suzanne4"Sorry, but that is not true. When you have programs that have not had one graduate pass the NLE, then things need to be corrected. It does not matter if one wants to study, but if there is no work for them and no way for them to get work in another country, then something needs to be done about it." When training is not meeting the standards in other countries, then you need to fix it. All Nursing Colleges teach the same curriculum and the differences are in the quality of he lecturers and the internal testing systems used by the College. The government regulates the licensing of the schools and if they do not comply with standards, then it is the government's responsibility to sanction the college. There needs to be inspections and accountability for the results. It is also the responsibility of the nurse to assess the standard of the college and do as you have said before "due diligence" the same as if you are going o apply for an agency. Philippine Nursing standards are accepted all over the world, subject to testing for competency in their systems. The Philippine hospitals are the problem and the differences in our laws and society to other countries, not the general nursing training. If it was then opportunities wouldn't exist in the US, England, Canada, New Zealand, Ireland, Saudi, Dubai, Singapore ec. And it is our life's choice to decide what is best for us. If it is though the opportunities are not there and we have to do something about it, perhaps it is necessary to keep in mind the Philippines is a THIRD WORLD COUNTRY, and that means limited resources and opportunities. Lets keep the responsibility here where it lies, with the GOVERNMENT LICENSING

Government licenses are required for this and funding as well. If we had both or charitable contributions yes we can do this if the govt approves it.

If it is not about the government who else is going to change the system? we can only suggest and provide information to the government but it will be them who make the changes so the government is really the point of the discussion. What we can do is limited by what the government will respond to.

The Program in the Philippines has never been 5 years for nursing. It has always been 4 years until now. I do not know where you obtained this information but it is wrong. The new course starting in June is 5 years, My course was 4 years and all the other nurses I know also did a 4 year course.

suzanne4 "If one has two years of work experience, then they do not need the bridge program at all. And a red flag should be going up to you if their charges are quite different from what the others are requiring. Bridge expenses are the same as well as visa requirements and expenses; those charges do not change. This is why I am telling you to be more than very careful." Please read some of the threads about what is happening in Canada at this time as well. Can you comment on this. It is my understanding if the nurse does not have training or experience in UK, Ireland, USA, Canada or New Zealand (Singapore requires IELTS), then a bridging course is necessary. this is what the ANMC told me. Suzanne4 was responding to a thread I placed saying I would be eligible for migration subject to my visa conditions as soon as I completed the bridging course if I had 2 years work experience. I am From the Philippines. My research says this is not true and bridging course is necessary. Do you know if the bridging courses are different costs in Australia? Is the course duration different from state to state? Do we need registration before we can apply for immigration Permanent Registration? Clarification of these points will be of benefit to all interested in going to Australia.