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I was reading an article about the U of Utah starting a DNP program here and it stated that: "Current nurse practitioners, nurse anesthetists, clinical nurse specialists and nurse midwives, who all hold advanced nurse-practice degrees, would be grand...

That Oceania place is a joke! You don't necessarily have to take the MCAT, there's not a single class on "Healthcare as a Team" or "Advanced Medical Theory" and you can't attend online. What gives?

No reciprocity that I know of. And according to many posts on here, there shouldn't be, as you do completely different things as an NP than you would as an MD. You see, NPs practice nursing, MDs practice medicine. Even when you do the same thing f...

excellent points. it is not a licensing exam, as it is voluntary. i would presume, however, that there is something more that a dnp learns with respect to clinical practice than is learned in fp school. otherwise, there would be no need for a dnp. ...

so would you go so far as to say that the same would be true of any licensing exam, that they are not worthwhile? why take medical boards, the nclex, the bar exam, sit for phd comps, etc? and how do you ensure that every student is getting an equal...

They are already starting to take it... From the ABCC website, "The content of the exam is focused on evidence based clinical care. Clinical evidence is applied to practice by many direct care providers; its application is not limited to the medical...

Has there ever been a study that shows that there are worse patient outcomes when a CNA dispenses meds compared to when a nurse does it? And why should the nursing profession feel entitled to influence another profession and say what is and what isn...

Who's encouraging him/her to go into medicine? It seemed like a good question to ask of someone who already has one doctoral degree. Clearly this person must have considered medicine as a possibility, and they had an answer as to why they wanted to...

I imagine your reasons for pursuing an advanced nursing degree instead of going to med school are very similar to many others---Too long, too many tests, too much stress. Again, just curious--how do you know the first 1.5-2 years of chiro school ar...

Just curious...why not med school? And good luck no matter what you do. It's courageous to leave what one does every day.

As far as I know, a DNP is not eligible to take the USMLE and therefore can never pass it, unless he/she goes on to be enrolled in an accredited medical school.

Sure, if you can get congress to pay for it. And obviously, from an absolute perspective, you do not need nearly as much money to fund DNP residencies as you do medical ones. I do not think ceasing the federal funding of medical residencies if DNPs...

For all the reasons I mentioned above, I completely agree with you. Unfortunately, it obviously has to be something the nursing community does on its own, including lobbying congress for additional funds for post-graduate training. There is simply ...

So are you insinuating that DNPs should be admitted into medical residency programs?

I am by no means an expert on this particular test, but it was my understanding that the material for the DNP exam was taken from the Step 3 exam, and then altered by the nursing organization administering the exam so that it would be more applicable...

Although I am not the original poster, I was lurking on this thread. MDs/DOs are not eligible to take NCLEX (or even a watered-down version of it), and so there would be no statistics available to answer your question.

Thanks, Dave. Sorry.

Perhaps someone could explain to me how these results relate to the discussion. http://www.abcc.dnpcert.org/exam_performance.shtml For comparison, 96% and 85% of 1st time allopathic and osteopathic takers passed in 2007 (latest stats available).

Why do you all think malpractice rates are so much lower for FNPs than for MDs/DOs performing the same tasks?

There is a lot of supposition/presumption on SDN that APNs will eventually try to move into more specialties and create their own residencies for cardiology, endocrinology, dermatology, surgery, etc and function independently in those fields as well....

Thank you for your post. While I have no background in Orem, Roy, Leininger, etc (I will look into them), I have to wonder: How much of this is used on a daily basis by APNs? That must take a ton of time, upwards of 1 hour to properly counsel a cli...

pinoyNP- Thank you for the time it took for you to respond. I agree, it will likely be up to state legislatures and insurance companies in the end, but as you stated, nursing is fragmented, and not every nurse wants the same thing, as in medicine. ...

How has the AMA abandoned primary care?

The reason I did not put residencies in quotes is because many DNP programs already call their post graduate clinical training residency, or at least that is how they informally refer to it. Thank you for replying.

I agree, but, does the decision making process of an APN only include philosophy and theory? Or does it also include hard data procured from clinical trials and research which then lead to practice guidelines? If so, from where do this data come? Fro...