I'm sorry.... but tulips you are so wrong about this statement that you should be slapped with an ignorant book for at least a week. Before I answer your crazy statements I will start off by saying that I'm finishing my first semester in the accelerated program. 1. Paying for a name brand education.. yes, yes you are, and that name brand education will last a lifetime. I tell everyone that asks me if NYU is worth the money and I respond the same to everyone. If you just want to be an RN, then no, it probably is not. But if you want to further your education and continue to get an advanced degree your degree from NYU will open a lot more doors, guaranteed. 2. The student to clinical instructor ratio is 5:1-6:1, from what I hear from other nursing students, this is about the same, or less (granted I talk to friends back home in Indiana, I'm not sure what it's like in other NYC area schools. 3. Students come to clinicals unprepared.... well, that's the students fault. Most everyone in my clinical group was very prepared and anxious to get going. When I talk to friends back home, comparing clincial experiences they are amazed about how much I have done. I firmly believe that what you get out of clinical experience is what you put into it. a student doesn't know how to take bp manually, well... that's their fault. I was able to take bp the first day they taught us, like the rest of my fellow students. the student just stands in the hallway... once again, thats the students fault. There is one student in my group that tends to stand in the hallway, they could be scared/anxious, but my clinical instructor (who is amazing btw) gets her in there and has her do things. The last two clinical experiences I had, I basically took over the nurses patient load, 6 patients each time. I was pulling iv's, priming iv's, giving meds (whith the clinical instructor present of course), assessing wounds, adminstering chest pt, suctioning trach's, walking patients, moving patients to chairs, making beds, giving patients bedpans, measuring and emptying said bedpan, giving bedbaths.... and of course cleaning up poop, which brings me to.... Wiping... I don't know how any nursing student thinks they wont have to do this... it's just niave. It's the first thing you learn and probably the most consistent activity you do. It's as much as a given as saying hello (well not really, but it seems that way).4. "They are either in nursing bec of the money or job security. They don't care about nursing or the people. I find that a lot in second career students." You know what... I take a lot of offense to this... You must be saying that I left my career the paid me very well because I want (actually less) money or job security. You're implying that my friend who is my study group left her six figure job becuase she wanted to take a pay cut. I honestly think that second degree students realize what they want to do in life and are willing to make the sacrificies to make that happen. I'm not saying there aren't people who think that way (only into nursing for money and job security), there actually were a lot at my previous school in Indiana. I seldom hear this from NYU students in my class. If you actually talk to them (instead of you which I assume you met one, or you were one yourself, and end up making a broad sweeping statement about all NYU students), you will find that most all of them left a high paying, upper level job to come here. 99% of the students I meet at NYU genuinely cares about improving the quality of life for their patients. 5. A couple more things about NYU before I'm done.... the faculty and staff in the College of Nursing is EXCELLENT. As everyone may know, there is a shortage of nurses, which means there is a shortage of faculty (since they can make much more as a nurse). NYU (and it's high tuition) brings in the best of the best for faculty, whom I would also think they might want teach at a "name brand" univeristy. As I talk to other nursing students back home, they constantly say how bad their nursing experience is because of the faculty, which is the reason why I transfered. One of my friends, and several of her classmates were ready to quit the program becuase they didnt want to end up like their instructors. The NYU faculty and staff care, a LOT, about their students and their future success (at times it seems like almost too much!). They encourage expanding your knowledge through research, they encourage pursuing higher education and they genuinely want the best our of their students6. With all of that being said, NYU IS EXPENSIVE!! If you search my previous posts, I have NYU estimated at $100,000 for the 15 month program (including EVERYTHING, tuition, housing, food, spending money, etc). I have personally sold all of my possessions (house, car, furniture, everything) to come here, and no, I don't regret it. In fact I will be joining the Army Nurse Corp Reserve to help pay back my loans (hello $50k loan repayment and $30k sign on). You really need to think long and hard about attending NYU, it is outragesouly expensive, but I truly believe that you get what you pay for. And when it gets harder to find a first job (read into nursing hiring freezes... bad economy=fewer people with healthcare=fewer visits to hospitals=less nurses) a BSN from NYU might stand out from others.... Just my 2 cents.... good luck in whatever you decide and remember, what you get out of nursing school is what you put into it. YOU have to decide if you want to be the person standing outside the patients room or the person who goes in and learns... no school can instill a will to learn, you have to come with that.