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I am so glad to hear some one voice this opinion. fighting this whole idea in my program. I teach OB/PEDs in an ADN program where we have adopted ATI and I belive it is give too much weight. i am glad other share my' not to teach to the test' philosophy

was active duty at Hood in 84-87, 93-95 as a CNM, and then civilian CNM for about a year in 97. How many midwives are still there? They do deliver a lot of babies there, I remember numbers of 250 - 300 a month. the midwives covered the night shifts so the Dr. and residents could be up during the day....it was a great place to practice due to the volume and interesting cases that we saw. Just an aside. Thanks.

This is unfortunate. What you describe I believe is an anomaly. The program I teach at is about partnering with the student and doing everything to prepare them for the real world. The instructors are with the student start to finish in cinical, and their opinions, challenges, and evaluations are taken seriously as a means to improve the program. I wish you luck! You have the heart and the interest so I believe you will perservere.

this is great, lots of ideas. I agree that it is good to allow the students to do some self directing in there program. Gives them ownership and hence put more effort and learn more from each other. You have really put so much into this. I also like to 'have fun' and am trying to come up with a 'jeopardy' type of game for the bi weekly test reviews but didn't know how to do prizes or scores for the teams. I will use many of your ideas.

I would like to concur with Vicki, I was a first year teacher this last quarter but let my personality guide me and was very successful. Setting your standards and verbalizing your expectations are the first thing. You may not know what those are right away, but just keepit open. Give respect and you will get respect, and treat each of them fairly, but firmly. It was a great term and I am looking for many more. Lynn

there is such a warm feeling when you look across at all their faces as you begin to speak. do not let them see you sweat....you are the expert in the room but I found it helpful to temper it with humor. There are a lot of funny stories to share I am sure and it helps to break it up. I am the only MCH instructor in this new ADN program and I had fun though it was so much work. Reading, writing, prepping, and then the clinical and labs, and the evaluations. I had 6 students...so the number was good. But with all the care plans, journals, projects, papers...it was a bit much for one person, but made it thru and they students did well. Peds was the killer for me...I have not been a staff nurse for 15 years having practiced as a nurse midwife. So I had to learn as quickly as they did. But I had the advantage of the terminology and ways around a hospital. It was awesome. they even passed the MCH hesi...But this next term I will have to bone up on my pediatrics more. still looking for help with that, but only have met ADN nurses that know peds. This term I am their faculty advisor on the final preceptorship, or independent study that they do to complete school Graduation is in July and I am so proud of all of them. I wish you luck and perhaps we can relate stories back and forth.

where are you located? And do you gravitate more to OB or Peds..? I am full time faculty teaching a Maternal Child Health program and my area of interest lies in OB and feel uncomfortable with the peds...but it worked out. My students passed the first term and I will repeat the course work in July again. with new students. Trying to get advice for the pediatric rotation to make it better for the students. BTW I am a CNM as well, so peds are really hard for me.

I graduated from U of P, but back in 1992, it was an awesome program and I was ready when I graduated to start. It was a close knit program, I think we had only 13 in our class. The off campus clinical rotations were great and very supportive. I had the opportunity to work with home birth midwives in Lancaster PA, so that really cemented all I had learned. good luck and let me know how it works out. I have been a practicing CNM for 15 years, but this year I moved into an education role, ADN program to give myself a break and get refreshed.

Okay all, now is the time that I move into teaching the seniors 'role and scope' I am sure most of it will be leadership, helping with resume, cover letter etc. But I am to provide 'lecture' 3 hrs/2days a week. I am thinking of guest speakers to help, but any one know of this, any ideas for discussion. I can't figure how I am going to put this into 6 hours a week. This after teaching an accelerated OB/PEDs course. I am not sure I can slow down to this....Any thoughts or idease will be helpful. I am considering role play. I also need to address, ethics, legal, nurse practice act again, and license, CEU's what else? thanks for all your help. I really enjoy this forum.

Wow...Iwas able to get the 6 students to present the last 6 chapters of the book, how did you accomplish all the chapters that way? VEry interested. I like the idea because I think they learn more. Lynn

Thank you, though clinical is not the problem. Ob is great, and the Peds nurses are awesome and are spending a great deal of time teaching and stretching their minds. I am worried I will not be able to give them the level of instruction since I am not a peds nurse and have not been exposed to is since I went to school...100 yrs ago, as I tell them. I have no antedotes nor do I have clinical experience to fall back on. So wondered if there were some forms, books, dvd, videos anything to help enhance this portion of the class. But I am so happy to be a part of this forum where I can just reach out day or night. Thank you again.

Thank you Jess, so I am not imagining the problem..yes it is overwhelming. But I have so baffled the students with my OB knowledge I hope I do as well with the Peds...anyway. I was told, I could not use the nursing program down teh street...I guess too much competition or I was told even that it was illegal to use anything from them.. I agree why re invent the wheel. The book we are using is Hockenbery and Wong...IT is 2000 pages...and we need to complete it all before the 10 week term is up. I move into Peds next week. This is a sharp group of students, and the good thing for me..not them, is that the pediatric unit will only allow one student at a time, so I am not bombarded with questions right now. So..I guess I will learn with me. And refer them back to the book. I just do not want to do a disservice to them. thanks for your reply it is good to know I am not alone in cyperspace....

the hospital I am doing clincal in is a level one..the peds unit is small so allowed to only float one student over there. So the clinical has not been teh problem really, the nurses are great to assist me, I am worried more about lecture, and lab. The students really got the OB stuff, but I know that in and out. Now I am worried. Othr instructors in teh program,tell me to relax, but i guess I am too much a perfectionist, or believer they are paying a lot to learn. And I am not the one to teach it...I guess I should just relax, but i want them to have the best. The other instructors from other colleges are telling methere is a dedicated peds instructor. I am out of my league...

Hey there, I am new too. My specialty is OB so that has been a breeze for me, but now the Peds..not my fortee, or have much knowledge except what I remember from my rotation as a student. Help...

Good day, I thought I had posted early but didn't see myself so thought I would try again. I am new to education. I am a CNM and to give my self a break decided to take on a position with a new ADN program as maternal child health educator. Being a new program, we (I) am developing the curriculum, teaching lecture, lab and clincal. Organizing tests, and community projects, reading assignments etc. The term is half over, I was great for the OB portion, but am scared regarding the peds portion. Any hints, ideas, consolations, anything.... I laughed when I read the one post about working 6 hrs a day...This has been a lot more work, though I like it, then I bargained for. Any help or comments would be appreciated. Lynn

I have a aquestion for educators. I am new also, this year. I am a Certified Nurse Midwive and took on Maternal Child Health. well the OB portion was great, and I am still riding high on how well the students got it. But now the peds portions starts and I am scared to death. They are not going to get the best...what can i do?

Hi, I am new to education, I am a CNM that has been given the assignment to teach the MCH including PEDs. I am a little lost, though just starting to bring the curriculum together, I need to develop tools for the PED's rotation. Any suggestions? I am very very nervous, and this is a small program with less then a handful of faculty, and some beginning like me. I am excited about this opportunity to build it myself, but lacking some direction. Any thing will help. any tools I need?