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Try Rio Salado online in Tempe, AZ... I think I remember a student that was just taking the lab. good luck

here is a link for you to look through. there are several good florida schools listed with online courses available. up to you to decide the right one for you. education is becoming so standardized coast to coast that at that level, it's just a matter of personal preference. http://www.elearners.com/programs/index.asp

BRAVO!! Thank you for taking the time to put forth this very well stated argument in favor of the 4 year BSN. Until we step up to the plate and invest in our educations, how can we expect to be taken seriously as capable professionals worthy of the pay? 2 years does not equal 4 years, no matter how people try to spin it. Nurses at one time were little more than domestics. We have come a long way since then, but we have further to go. :smilecoffeecup:

Allo Marie! It will about then for me to, if not a little longer. I would love to study for the OIIQ exam with you, even from a distance when it is time. For now, Nursing core and French refresher courses at NAU will be "mon voyage". :smilecoffeecup: I hope we stay in touch to encourage each other along. With proper motivation, we can do ANYTHING! :pumpiron: Bon courage! Marguerite (à Tucson, AZ poour Montréal bientôt!)

Thank you so much for your answer:flowersfo... ça m'encourage beaucoup! I love my French heritage and culture and truly look forward to being "home" again, and anywhere in Canada is home... but more so Québec and N.B. : ) My grammar is a little rusty, but I understand very well when it is in spoken or writen form. I did learn to read and write in French before doing so in English, and since all but my core nursing courses are complete, I will have the opportunity to do a grammar review class or 2 before finishing. Again, thank you for the note! Marguerite

Hi Clemmm, I grew up in Edmundston, NB and went to French parochial schools. I am currently living in Arizona and would eventually like to return to Canada as a Nurse. I will be studying Nursing these next 3 years and hope it is not as difficult as some posters seem to insinuate to work in Montreal. Any advice? Marguerite

possibly a dumb question... but didn't the nurse have her hep shots?

first born of 2 adopted girls... family caretaker... father was an alcoholic. both parents were often sick or recovering from surgeries, so i took care of them and was responsible for my sister.

traumaRUs - I don't feel my mind is closed, and while I may not have years of experience in Nursing, I do have solid experience with market economies and can safely say that we are all racing to the bottom when it comes to being replaced by less qualified workers. Less is more to big businesses, and they will do with less qualified personel to make more profit. They DO need to be carefully watched in healthcare, or we all risk being short changed in the quality of care when profits are part of the equation. Now, there are many situations where mid-level practitioners are perfect for the level of care that is required. But you have to admitt, there is great potential for abuse by less ethical outfits. Again, I side with the Doctor and can understand her worry and frustration. Who knows what she has seen where she practices, and if she is concerned, it may very well mean that there is good reason for her to be and that we need monitor healthcare practices to ensure abuse is not occuring. I would not dismiss the good Doctor so lightly. To quote you, "Healthcare is changing and we must change with it or lose out." We just need to be sure the change is benificial and equitable to all.

Hi, I am in Tucson too. I am about to start at NAUs Nursing program affiliated with TMC. I have heard good things about it and I am eager to get going with the program. I will let you know what I think by semester's end. :balloons:

Well, whatever your position, you seem to lack empathy for others. I am willing to bet though that you are an NA, LPN or RN without your 4 year degree, or you would not have made such a statement. I would like you go through the effort and expense this doctor went through and see how you feel about less qualified individuals potentially replacing you. I am betting you would not feel any differently than she does. I think the "scab" statement (although harsh) is appropriate under the circumstances and I am glad words are not being minced. We need more individuals with courage of conviction to come forward and blow the whistle like this doctor has when our health care, and that of our patients, is at stake. :smiletea2:

I don't care how it hashes out as long as BSNs get more considerably more pay for their higher education. When that happens, people will find a way to continue on in their studies to the BSN level, guaranteed!: )

To quickly clear this up, I am not putting down bedside nursing. I am a kind and compassionate person and, I have worked as a Nurse Aid and loved doing it. I am 54 now though and don't have the back to lift and tug on patients or make 30+ beds a shift like I used to. That does not mean that I won't do my part, or will grouse about doing it. I enjoy working with people, helping those in need and don't mind patient contact in the least. However again, I am not in my 20's now, and I am undertaking these studies so that I can move to the next care giving level and not spend an entire shift doing CNA/Tech work. Again, if I wanted or could continue doing their work, I would not undertake nursing studies, and all it entails. It's going to be hard work and require loans to accomplish this. Finally becoming a nurse will be worth the effort though and, it will be rewarding to be in a position to help others in such a satisfying way. I will be in debt for years for the effort and may well go into retirement with debt still to pay. For this committment on my part, however, I don't think it reasonable for CNAs to expect me to do their work on top of mine. I never expected help from the nurses to make a bed or change/bathe a patient when I was a nurse-aid. Nurse aids helped each other and if absolutely necessary, we asked an LPN for help if we were in a bind and needed an extra set of hands. Now and then a nurse might step in to observe us, or talk with a patient while care was given, and might give a bit of help or take over if she chose as part of her patient care and assessment, but it was not expected or asked for by the nurse aids. Has this changed?

Bad idea, and dangerous! By the way, while the CNA is passing out meds, will you be assisting patients to the bathroom and emptying bed pans? Just curious what you are doing while this is going on...?

At 54, I am with you on that! As an RN, I will look to work for the state or the fed in order to get some kind of pention for later. I have over 6 years with a state pention fund working in education and I will look to keep that growing or combine it with a fed pention. I have a lot of compassion and will give excellent patient care, but I need to get school loans paid off and take care of my golden years too.