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I am sorry to report, I know many nurses who operate the same way. Give all their 8ps along with their 4s....or worse...just plain not give any. Sick huh. I would probably say however, the worst thing I have ever witnessed came from a nurse who had five or six years experience under her belt in ltc settings. We had a patient with a huge CHF history....Gtube, trach, foley and Diabetic to boot. Nurse wonder noted her foley to be empty at the end of her shift....and for some strange reason decided that she probably didn't have enough hydration..hence her lack of output. (never mind her continuous tube feeding) so she dumped a whole pitcher of orange juice down her tube. BRILLIANT! Needless to say, she went right into CHF, Sugar through the roof.

Krissy, Don't let these bad experiences get in your way. My advice to you, if you love ltc, stick with it, God knows ltc needs loving careing hands. I say that instead of considering your self the interviewee...you be the interviewer. Get yourself a couple of prospective homes you could consider working at and forget that you are being interviewed....go and check the place out...you can get a sense of a facility fairly quickly by hanging out at the nurses station for about ten minutes. You can get a very good feel for environment if you tour the facility with your eyes on whats going on, rather than being nervous over the whole interview thing. Think of it as this facility needs to sell themselves to me rather than the opposite. There are places out there where *****ery isn't common practice, where the goal is the care and the staff are all on the same page and fighting the same fight. God knows that working with women can be a nightmare. Ya have to remember though...being cute has its price....ya gotta let it roll off your back, smile to yourself and thank your god that you are who you are, inside and out. I highly suspect you are as beautiful on the inside as you are outwardly, which is a double whammy for the miserable masses. If you were a pritty witch...then you would be just a witch..ya know what I mean? If worse comes to worse...try and grow a ugly mole on your face...one with a big hair comming out of it....lol.

Nothing worse than being treated like you are stupid. I have found that most of the time when someone treats you that way, it is usually due to their own lack of confidence. I myself would probably tell her, in a very non confrontational way, that I heard everything in report...just as she did...and I know my job and know it well...let her know that you know she has alot to worry about in her position and you will make sure that she doesnt have to worry about your end of the job being done....you will do that for her. Let her know that you admire the fact she cares so much about her shift running smoothly, and the work being done correctly, let her know that you so enjoy working with a RN who pays such attention to detail, Stroke her big dumb ego a little (as painful as that may be) and she will slack off of you. I have often found this technique to work quite well. There is no confrontation involved, thus no hard feelings...and a pleasant work environment.

LPN here...been so for the last 10 years. Dont want to be an RN at this point in time, however, I have always found it to be a complimemt when someone asks me when I plan to be one. Yes sometimes it is annoying and gets old, but it is always a compliment. The salary thing, yes RN's make more than I do, when I do all of the same things that they do except for push IV meds. I often found myself angry that more of the RN responsibility seems to get pushed down to the LPN. This has happend alot in my particular facility....odd thing is that it doesent seem to be that our RN's have been handed down more responsibility, just that the group we have now can't seem to handle the job....and it has trickled down to us...but that is just my facility. I dont get angered over pay, if I werent happy with my pay I would leave. If I were disgruntled over an RN making more than me, well, that would be my own stupid fault wouldnt it? I have to say that I work in a facility where there may be one decent RN supervisor....she sadly cant handle cleaning up after the others all of the time. She cant run the place on her own, sadly in time she will quit. I have had the pleasure this week of orienting a RN who thought it was just insane for an LPN to be orienting her. She ended up feeling quite dumb at the end of the evening....and righfully so...she is a twit, which explained her attitude. I have also met the CNA who thinks I should be answering all her lights while she putz's around....well...I can help her do her job, but she CANT help me do mine. So when she comes at me with that attitude with her face in mine telling me she has four lights on and I could at least help her, I remind her of that fact....and she shuts up....untill she works with another nurse who puts up with her crap. It is a one hand washes the other profession. We are only as good as our counterparts let us be. I can't be a great LPN with out a great RN above me and a great CNA below me. That is the fact.

This is exactly why I dont work in the city. I suggest investing in some mace, a stun gun....whatever it takes.

Hey...I am proud of you for even attempting to quit. I wont even consider quitting.....It stresses me out just to think about it. You can do it! Invest in some tootsie pops like our good man Kojak! Keep that mouth busy!

My experience with foriegn nurses: I work for a corp. that about two years ago decided to bring over about 20 nurses from two different countries. They shacked them up and paid their rent for a year....paid them more than what they pay the regular staff..bent over backwards to keep their whiny butts happy.....not ONE of them were able to pass the PA state boards...so guess what.....none of them can afford their rent anymore. Their spouses and children that they brought with them (we paid for that too) speak next to no english and cant find a job .....theses nurses cant even pass the CNA tests, so they have taken huge pay cuts to go and work in the kitchens with their non english speaking spouses. My facility is back to all english speaking, knowledgable, patient friendly,nurses..there is no more jibberish being spoken in the hallways, but sadly I fear that these recruits we spent so much money on are going to end up needing our goverments assistance to stay afloat over here. I am not for recruitment by any means. My experience with foriegn nurses has been nothing but bad, as has my patients experiences with them.

Yup...medication aids...I've worked in personal care homes where this is considered acceptable. I have also worked for religious organizations...(took care of nuns) where anything goes. I was told that their "home" was not overseen by the state. They did not have state inspections or regulations to follow. Catholic perk I guess. They did however INSIST on quality care, and did not utilize medication aids.

Okay, my turn! First let me say to mattsmom, please dont ever apologize for your personal feelings, at least not to me anyway, those are in my opinion, the ones that matter most and the ones I care to hear, the ones that we learn from. I did get quite a bitter taste in my mouth from your posts, and I apologize if I intern offended you or misinterpreted what you were trying to convey. Some one once said to me, and as I get older in life I tend to believe it, they said, "We are all a bunch of azzholes, but some of us are better at it than others". I am convinced that each and every one of us has at least a handfull of people out there who consider us to be asses. I quiver over the reality of this because in my head I am sure that I am not, but somepeople out there may disagree. I strive to be as non-assholian as possible and for this reason I have concluded that I am just not as good an asshole as alot of people out there. Bertha.......she gets the honor of being a flaming azzhole, was probably her birth right as I suspect she was born unto a family of assholians. Mattsmom, you did however enlighten me on a whole new aspect of this situation when you mentioned "lateral violence". I pondered that thought in my brain and I have concluded while Bertha added the fuel to my fire, it was not her I desired to beat as I had stated but it was the patient that got under my skin so badly. I have realized that in my years I have handled many out of controll over the top patients and family members, but never have I encountered such behavior as preformed by Mr.Nasty, nor have I ever had another nurse (needless to say one I had little tolerance for to begin with) make such a bold attempt as to prevent me from my action. I ask myself what would have happend if Bertha kept her mouth shut and backed off and I see myself being completly content with Mr.nasty in his room, out of my face, and the staff free from insult. Yes I was enraged with his mouth and the "n" word signed sealed and delivered my initial action, which I am still not sure was right. Then I caught myself thinking who would have taken my "lateral outburst" if it werent for Bertha? I convince myself that there wouldnt have been one........so........is it technically "lateral" or not? Have I confused everyone? Someone else in a previous post had mentioned (and I am sorry but I forget who posted it, but it was a good question). What if Bertha went o ff the deep end over my comment and got violent with me herself? Awesome notion......my response to that is I think I would have crapped my pants and that natrually would have de-escaladed the whole incident...lol. Seriously, I dont know if I was that out of controll, I remember thinking to myself as I spit out "beat the shit out of you". that yes ...I really chose the wrong words. I had been trying to think of what to say to her to get her to back off and nothing came....but that, and as it came I was saying to myself oh my god I cant believe I said that. She stormed off imediatly to the phone, and I said oh boy here we go. I honestly, and dont yell at me people! I laugh when I look back at it, I remember the tone I used.....she got the same treatment my kids get when thewords "stop it" dont cut it....I give there arm a little squeeze and give them the look of death and speak in a soft deep very slow very serious tone..."If you dont stop that...you are gonna get it". The tone is soft and serious...and its all in the eyes.....Poor Bertha got the look of doom too! Then I wonder, how scary that could have been? My kids dont get it half the time and end up being grounded or what not.....she must have just been ticked off cause I treated her like a child?! LOL.....or maybe the look of doom only works on adults? Okay...enough of that, now. I have to say the only other violence/inappropriate launching of office supply I have ever encounterd was last year in relation to a nurse who was being quetioned about her narcotics.....she attacted the charge nurse when she was asked to present her cart keys. That was scary......and obviously not similar at all to the fore mentioned types of abuse. I would love to hear other rolo-nurse stories.

I am with you on that KlareRn. The most annoying thing I have encountered is trying to figure out phones! I usually try and locate extinguishers and crash carts and what not, keep an observant eye out for these things. I learned a keen lesson last year when on my second day in a facility the state inspectors were in and decided to ask me where they eyewash stations were........boy was I happy that I happend to notice it perched on the wall right behind the guy! WHEW! Taught him to fool with an agency gal! Of course, he was aware that I got really lucky and then followed me on my med pass just to jack me I suspect. He busted me on a coulple things.....I didnt check a wristband, pull a curtain for a g-tube pt .....little things. I am suprised I didnt get slammed with worse.

Mattsmom, No one here has disagreed with you in the fact that the actions taken by myself were wrong. The anger that you sense does not come from that opinion as for we are all in agreement, it comes from how you have stated it. Aparently you have read this thread twice and still are under the impression you may be the only one here who has a sense of what is right and professional despite my last post where I thought I very clearly explained myself and my reasons for posting hereas well as the responses of others, and yet you still seem to believe that YOU have somehow posted here from atop your white horse and gave us all a lesson? We were most certainly wrong and you were the first one to point that out.....BRAVO! you are the supreme nurse. This has shed some light into exactly how it is that you found yourself dodging a rolodex.

OH....I almost forgot the most important thing!!! I wanted to thank you all so much for helping me put this all into perspective. Each and every one of you have really helped me out here with your understanding and insight. YOU guys rock! I really hesitated to post this incident because I was just so ashamed of myself, but then I thought whats a little shame among my peers? LOL! I decided it would be good to post my nightmare and get outside perspective, I was right. Thanks so much gang for helping me sort this out, I am so glad you are all here! What have we learned???? dont threaten to beat the bejesus out of a coworker, even if she is an azzhole! Invest in a b0-bo doll instead.

Mattsmom, I understand how easily misinterpritations are on boards like these. It is so very easy for one person to achieve a different message from a post than another person would. It seems as though you felt from my postings that I attempt to blame someone els for my behavior, but I assure you that I certainly do not. I have hashed this incident over and over in my brain and never once did I come up with any reason to justify my actions. I have simply been trying to understand why I did what I did. Last year I spent four days in t he hospital due to an allergic reaction to a spider bite. The four days that I was there were hell and I was stressed to my limits. Let me tell you that I requested tylenol on my second nights stay for a headache........six hours later it was brought to me.....The K--pad for my foot....never happend though it was ordered....a frickin pillow arrives for me the next morning after I requested it......bloodwork that was ordered....never done.....had to get it on my own after discharge. Of course my insurance company sent me home cause THEY felt I needed discharged. If I were elderly, I would have been sent to LTC to recieve my three more weeks of IV antibiotics. The problem then you see would have been that I would have been stuck on a floor in ltc with a bunch of acute pts that have been discharged from the hospital well before they should have.....all of whom are stressed out enough already because they got such crap care from the hospital. Now who takes the brunt of their anger? Its not the hospital nursing staff who turns them out so untimley and never treats the whole patient, just the acute specific problem/problems that lands them there.....no.....it would be us. Now, don't misunderstand me, this is not at the nursing communities fault....this is strictly business...money making business at the expense of peoples saftey and lives. Tonight for example, I admited a woman who is on a heprin drip and required pt inrs drawn Q2.......we are not equipped to do that....but the money machine rolls on and someones wallet is fat, and she was in this facility for no more than six hours and should have had 2 draws....when I left she had only had one done and we were waiting for the lab to come and get the other. Please try and refrain from speaking poorly of LTC when you have no idea what goes on and what we go through and what we have to deal with when we get sent one of your neglected train wrecks. I think we all are aware that the situation I described earlier with Bertha was just incredibly wrong. I didnt post here to somehow obtain justification for the incident from my peers, or be told I was right, I posted this here to obtain the viewpoints and feedback from my peers, vent my frustration at myself for what I had done and perhaps a little empathy from the people I know would understand. I posted this incident in the hopes that I would gain the feedback from my peers that would give me insight and inable me to see different views of the situation and help me learn from it. I also thought that perhaps the incident would be of some sort of value to us as nurses, perhaps we could all learn from. But I guess over in critical care these problems or potential problems would not exist for the critical care nurse is exempt from the stresses of LTC...where all the good help is. Those patients and their families start with you and they end with me. 80 percent of the time, we are their last stop, there is no going home, they know this and reality sets in and their stress is tenfold, we deal with the guilt ridden family, the angry patient.....you see half of it if even, we get the real shit. Dont put yourself up on a pedistal, because in my eyes we are all in the same crapping dingy of a boat that is barley afloat. Not your fault and not mine. Your stresses are completely different than they are for us LTC folks, and untill you see first hand whats going on out there dont throw those stones. OH, and I think that one might get the idea that posters here have defended or condoned this behavior of mine simply due to the fact that most of us have wanted to very badly at one time or another....beat the crap out of a co-worker. I used to often take V.O. slips and put certain nurses that were getting on my nerves names on them and write an order as follows "admin slap to the face Q2hrs and prn". I would give them to my supervisor to take them off. She would chuckle when she came across them and we would dream that it could be done. As far as me and therapy go.......I dont think so. My therapy begins and ends here. You may wish to check the horse you are riding on.....if you look closely I think you may note that it isnt so high off the ground. The incident that took place is not the normal in Ltc. I still cant decide exactly what provoked me so. Was it the facility or Bertha or a combo of both. There was alot of tension in that place. The point is moot now anyway, it is done and over. It may make you all feel better to know that I did schedule myself an appointment with my Dr. to have my hormone levels checked! Am I burnt out? No. Am I disgusted and distraught with how corperate companies make life altering decisions for people that need healthcare? Hell yeah. They are pushing the envelope big time and I often wonder when its gonna break. Will I contiune to work and do my best to provide people with quality care despite the stuffed shirts. You bet.

RNPD, I am in agreement with you, the fact that the man was in a wheel chair allowed me to take advantage of him. Had he been ambulatory, this would not have happend. I would not have been able to remove him. Technically I think Bertha was right in her thoughts that the man should have been left alone, however, she shouldn't have attempted to prevent me from removing him, be it wrong or be it not. The situation was just not handled right from the get go and obviously got out of hand. Some of my biggest issuses as of late have revolved around what we as nurses have to take as far as abuse. I have no problems with the confused smacking me or being nasty, it is out of their controll, but families and oriented patients have become increasingly more abusive towards us and it is getting out of hand. I understand their anguish, but most of them could give a rats azz less about ours. It seems as though the world is aware of the nursing shortage, and it somehow in every aspect is taken out on us. This is where the danger lies, this is where the problem is. Those patients and their families know what we are under and they choose to not care and expect us to do for them what we could normally do for them if we were staffed right. What I just ADORE is the patient who is now in long term care, and has two daughters that are nurses and they sit with him all day and all night long........but wont lift a fricking finger. They call you off the floor for every little tiny need. They know you have a time window with meds but insist that mother dear gets her pills at exactly five, Unless its a pain med then you should be able to sneak it in in that hour window you have. They cant seem to rub the lotion on moms feet or back....not a script...just their favorite lilac scented moisterizer that mom loves and makes the room smell nice....they need the cna to do it...or worse they dont like the cna and feel it should be a licensed person to put the cream on. WHAT THE FU8K! How many times have you heard a family member or patient call the staff names? Stupid is the word I have been hearing alot latley.....or my favorite....."where did you get your license?" I actually had a nut case ask me that question when I told her I didnt have an extra tv remote for her dear hubbys tv. (he was in a vegitative state and couldnt use it anyway). The lack of respect and understand towards us is obscene.

You guys are too funny. Though I know I could go for a "nurse death match" on occassion. I think they should instate Peeps's idea and make it some sort of state regulation or something. I spoke with my boss this morning who said (and I am not suprised) that the particular facility inwhich this occured does not desire my services any longer.....oh well eh. I have been officially kicked out whiich sort of bothers me because I have prided myself on my excellent work history and now have quite a blemish. I have also been put on probation (again not suprising) for two months (I thought that was rather lieniant). I also learned that bertha dear has exacerbated the story, and states that I left the facility without telling her or having permissioin which is not true. I should have beat the shit out of her. But no big whoop all is said and done, now my biggest fear is running into her at a different faciliity somewhere.....heee heee that should prove to be interesting.

NO MARIO! Dont be sorry to say that I was wrong! I was most certainly way out of line! You most certainly have not impressed me as a creep......yet anyway! lol! You didnt seem hard to me.....just honest which in my opinion is the only way to be. I thought your post was insighful and it caused me to think about the situation more so than I had .......which is always a good thing! For future reference....I think the death grip is more deadly than the kung-fu......and by far much more hellatious than the vulcan pinch.

Well, Just a little update. I called my agency today and told the big boss what went down. She was a suprised as I was at the whole thing, and actually got a chuckle out of it then yelled at herself for laughing. She informed me that she hadn't heard any word from the facility but said she would keep me posted.......about a half hour later she called me back and told me that they infact had called her while she was talking to me....but she had been caught in a game of phone tag with them and would speak with them tomorrow.....oh well. Now as the day progressed and I look back at the events in hind site......I have begun to question weather or not Bertha dear put her hands on me first to get me to let go of the chair. This is fuzzy for me because in my heated rage.....well you know how that is. I actually didnt recall what exactly I had said to her untill the CNA's told me....I knew I had my hand on her...and I knew I said something bad but couldnt recall exactly what. I have also been considering possible causes of my temporary insainity. I dont think stress is the cause. I am quite happy at home,,,,though that work environment is rather hellish. I had been having a really good day despite the minor incident earlier in the day and the idiot CNA ...I was enjoying providing a little tlc to the residents. I cant understand what happend to me. My darling husband thinks it is a sign that I need to get p'od more often...that I supress to much anger and it builds therefore exploding at the wrong place and time.....this is a possibility. I have also been having incrdible mood swings since the beging of the year and am wondering if the change of life is hitting me early and hard. Then I remember how my Mother was....oh my she could snap! So needless to say I have made my self a doctors appointment. Bertha on the other hand has been a source of annoyance to me from day one.......for some reason . I have disliked many of people in my day, but this woman takes the cake, I dont know if dislike is even the word here. Prior to this occurance she has been annoying, but no more annoying than many others I have met, there is just something about her that rubs me really wrong. Of course still, none of this justifys my behavior. I am feeling much better after having talking to my boss.

OMG! "GOING NURSING" I AM ROLLING AROUND IN HYSTERICAL FITS OF LAUGHTER....thought secretly worried that it will be me!

Thanks for reassuring me guys, I do feel better this morning, though I still have feelings of dread. At this point I am more curious to see what if anything will become of this. Normally I would expect to be asked not to return to this facility but I think we can all agree that things in nursing havent been quite the norm as of late. I have been working this facility for a while now, and I think I have earned some respect there from the staff, and I honestly wonder if Bertha will be the one asked not to return out of the two of us...though that would be incredibly wrong.....it wouldnt suprise me. Odder things have happened. I am still ashamed of myself, I really dont desire to go back to that facility. I am just curious to see what if anything will evolve from this at this point. I will keep you all posted.....it could prove to be interesting. Thanks again guys.....you have made me feel a bit better!

Well, I have just completed the most hellish evening of work I have ever done in my years of nursing. I went of the deep end, and I am feeling just totally disgusted with myself, I dont even know if disgusted it the right word, but I thought I had better come here and vent in the only place where I can find people who might understand. I am just sick and beside myself. I will give you all the scene. I go to work at the same facility I have been assigned to for the last three months...long term care. I am in a good mood despite the fact that I have learned that I will be working with a nurse that I really cant stand....we will call her "Bertha". I have never worked alongside "bertha" , she normally works 11-7 and relieves me, she is also an agency nurse. I have little tolerance for her because she annoys me....she talks to much about crap I dont care about, and very often feels the need to ask questions during report that are irrelevant and will get snippy when you get annoyed with her, or feels the need to disagree with you on some point .......usually an irrelevant point. She is the nurse that works night turn because she cant hang on the other shifts.......she works agency because she cant hang on to a permanent assignment.....you know the type. She feels she knows it all, and yet has managed to be fired from several positions and is stupid enough to tell you about it. Always putting her two cents in when usually her two cents isnt worth two cents. She is nice, friendly, but annoying as all hell. I for some reason have very little tolerance for her. Now , I gave ya the low down on Bertha. It is me and Bertha and yet another agency nurse working the floor. I hate it when the whole floor is staffed agency....its not fun, just another thing to cause me stress. The other nurse...we will call her "Sally", is newer to the facility and is not overly familiar with the in's and outs nor the patients. I know I have my work cut out for me. All goes suprisingly well thoughout the evening, Bertha only manages to annoy me once early on in the shift by putting her nose up my ass. It was a minor annoyance, and it annoyed me more than it should of. I have had a quiet night, only one problem with a brittle diabetic resolved early on, and spend most of my night avoiding bertha and giving some TLC to my patients who have been somewhat neglected by the CNA who is finishing up her third double in a row and obviously has no desire to attend to the residents anylonger, so I have spent most of my evening filling pitchers and getting people comfy and settled in for the night which is fine by me and it makes me happy to do so, yet in the back of my mind I am slightly annoyed that CNA's are allowed to work so many consecutive doubles. Many seem to love this, they bust ass for two or three days and have the rest of the week off, though latley I have encountered many that choose not to but thier asses and cry about how tired they are while they spend their paychecks on their many days off.....this could be a whole other thread. Anywho! on to my nightmare, it is the end of the night, and one of Sallys residents makes his way up to the desk and begins to ***** because he never got his meds.....this is his game, he does this all the time especially when he doesnt know the nurse...he thinks he can get away with it but we are on to him. He is nuts, aaox3, but nuts, likes to cause a fuss now and again. I tell him that yes sally gave him his meds he disagrees and starts calling us stupid and other names and what nots, hollering and fussing. I tell him repeatedly to file a complaint in the office in the morning and go to bed there is nothing he can do about it now and his name calling and rudeness arent appropriate. This goes on for about ten minutes...he bellows I tell him to go to bed. Then he puts the icing on the cake and calls sally a stupid "N" word. I have had it and make my first mistake of the evening. The guy is in a wheelchair and cant walk so I go behind him to wheel him back to his room because I have now heard enough. I get behind him and start wheeling and he starts yelling and grabbing at me...this is no big deal to me and I continue to wheel him off. BERTHA decides he should be left there, and is now yelling at me to leave him be. I am angered by this and ignoring her, I continue to take him back to his room. BERTHA decides she is now going to try and prevent me from doing so and comes around the desk and down the hall....and holds down his chair continuing to yell at me to leave him be........This is where I completley snap out and behave in a manor that is so unlike me it is frightning. I actually grab Bertha by the arm with a death grip and glare at her ....I am trying to stare her to death. She naturally tells me to let go of her arm.....and I look at her and say......and I am so ashamed to admit that I said this......I say "back off or I may beat the shit out of you". Clearly I have flipped my lid. She looks at me in shock, I let go of her arm and she heads for the phone naturally and calls the supervisor who is not in the facility but lives a block away. I continue to take Mr. Nasty back to his room and he, as I knew he would, brings himself back out into the hall but keeps his mouth shut for the rest of the night. I head off the floor to take in a smoke cause I desperatly need one at this point. I happen to run into some CNA"S outside that overheard Bertha on the phone with the supervisor. They told me that they could tell that the supervisor couldnt believe what bertha was telling her and they asked me if it was true...did I infact say that to her.......I regretfully admitted that I had said what I said. I still cant believe I did that. I will be waiting for my phone to ring tomorrow....the agency will be calling I suspect. Although this dear Bertha is good for making many unfounded complaints, perhaps this one shall be blown off....I dunno. All I know is I wigged out tonight and I cant figure out why. I have never snapped on anyone like that in my life, I sit here wondering if I should call her and apologize....she is working a double.....pr would it make matters worse.....she could end up talking endlessly to me on the phone and piss me off all over again. I dunno, I just know that I wont find sleep tonight as for I will be trying to convince myself that I am not insane and dont need mental help. The thing that initiated my snap was the relentless verbal assault launched on myself and the staff by a resident. I tend to wonder, where it is that the line gets drawn. How much do we as nurses have to take from families and patients? Was it so terribly wrong for me to remove that man from the nurses station or should I have left him rant and make obscene comments at us all night? Shoudl I have beat the shit out of Bertha anyway? Someone out there give me some words of wisdom....I am hoping that one of you can tell me that I am not alone in my snapdom...that others have momentarily snapped as well and went onward.....no problem. We all snap out on occasion right? Perhaps I need to snap out more often?

I have no idea why I have spent the last hour of my time reading this thread......it is so gross!!! yet, I cant seem to stop reading or prevent myself from adding my two cents!! Grossest thing I have ever seen....I worked in a dr. office, pt came in with a boil the size of a softball on his butt....we gowned up and lanced the sucker.....I nearly died and so did the doc......the crap shot all over the wall when the incistion was made.....and it was the foulest greenest thickest smellliest stuff I ever laid my eyes/nose on. I swear the process took an eternity, when we were done,, we went and sat in his office for a while and just starred at each other and shook our heads, He then said to me......(he was a funny guy)....thank god I am the boss, cause now I am gonna tell you to go and clean that shit off the wall.......we laughed,,,,and I silently cried. The room smelled for quite some time. I also hate.......burning off moles and skin tags....the smell,,and putting them in little containers to be sent to the lab....yuck...

Just to keep you all informed,,, my experament was I guess a failure,,, I couldn't maintain wedgie status for more than ten minutes or so. I had to do the dance.

I feel I must comment on the smoking issue, as for I am a junkie slave to niccotine. Wherever I have worked, I have been allowed two 15min breaks and a 30min lunch(unpaid). My lunch if I have time is usually a smoke. I will tell you from the point of view of an addict, that I must go have a smoke. I do understand that many people abuse the situation, and it shouldn't be tolerated at all. I take my alloted breaks, that is it. I hate my habit and I respect others rights to not have me fill up the air around them with my smoke. I also HATE self righteous people that tell me the great out doors is theirs too. I respect others feelings indoors or in close quarters, but when I am walking down the street, or at a park, I have said if you don't like it, get out of my airspace. A woman once sat down next to me, and my already light smoke and asked if I would please put it out. I was at a park watching my kids play, I asked he if she would mind finding another bench. I guess I was infringing on her rights. You would think I had contaminated the whole park. The whiff of my second hand smoke could have caused cancer in the whole tri-state area. Wouldn't work for a place that took that right from me.

mmmmm....good point canoehead.....Plan B. I shall try to remember exactly which pair of my undies it is that I curse everytime I wear due to the spontaneous wedgie that occurs as soon as I get to work......this way, it will be just half the material....same effect. I will just have to try and remeber my plight to understand the lover of the thong and refrain from doing my ever-so-graceful and yet highly effective "wedgie dance".

Tomorrow when I go to work, I am going to test thewhole g-string / thong theory. I wish not to make a financial investment, so I shall just cram my regular undies up into no mans land and see just how long I can take it. I guess you could call me one of those nurses who feels the need to suffer. lol