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Not to mention jumping through several hoops. And emptying out your wallet. You really should take the initiative to talk with a lawyer who specializes in medical licensing in Texas. They'll either charge a token fee or give you a free consulation to hear all your information and give you an opinion on what you can (or need) to do to be successful. And more importantly, what not to do to avoid shooting yourself in the foot. Well worth it for piece of mind, if nothing else.

Unfortunately some of the nursing professors in college are the same way. I'm still working on my pre-reqs, but after talking to the people who head up the Learning Disabilities office at school and some of the graduated nurses with ADD that went through the program - I'm thinking it would be better to find another nursing school. The most disturbing thing is hearing from former students about the increased pressure from the nursing educators, especially the program director. I've decided it's best to keep it between myself, my doc, and the disabilities office at school and not tell anyone else. Too many people that don't understand what ADD is really all about.

How'd you manage free tuition?

One thing about waiter/waitress jobs is that you end up having to wait before you can get the prime weekend evening shifts. Depends on the town, the restaurant, and how long the other waiters have been working there.

You might want to consider this: That's also true about a person's reputation.

At this point in time CCCCD only requires Intermediate Algebra (not College Algebra) as a pre-req for statistics. At this time you cannot substitute one for the other. The only time limit (at this point in time) is on the science classes. Seems like something changes every year, that's why they recommend attending one of the several information sessions held throughout the year. Samantha

From the National Council of State Boards of Nursing website: Nearly 100 years ago, boards of nursing were established by state government to protect the public's health by overseeing and ensuring the safe practice of nursing. Boards of nursing achieve this mission by establishing the standards for safe nursing care and issuing licenses to practice nursing. Once a license is issued, the board's job continues by monitoring licensees' compliance to state laws and taking action against the licenses of those nurses who have exhibited unsafe nursing practice.

Both filed Declaratory Orders, got an ok from the BNE, took the license test, got RN licenses, no restrictions. It took 2 months for the individual who completely filled out the DE with nothing left blank (including crossing through the parts that didn't apply) and included the letters of recommendation. The other person is also licensed now, but it took over a year. That person didn't fill out the DE completely and didn't send any letters of recommendation. The BNE took about 4 months to send a request for the missing information on the DE form, letters of recommendations, and wanted additional information. This individual didn't send all that was asked for and ended up having to get a psyc evaluation to submit to the BNE as well as sending in the stuff the BNE wanted anyway. The BNE took their sweet time approving the DE, but they did. That person was then able to take the NCLEX (after taking extra time and $ to take a couple of review classes.) Neither one had a non-disclosure order, and neither got their record expunged. The first person had a more serious offense than the second one. In fact, the second person had a very minor misdemeanor from high school that falls under the "youthful indiscretion" category. Says a lot about picking your battles, don't you think? Samantha (and no, neither one is me - I'm still doing pre-reqs and not even in nursing school yet)

I personally know of two people who requested their own FBI background check in trying to decide whether or not to file a DE order. Two had Class C misdeameanors which were dismissed after adjudicated disposition and one of those persons had a Nondisclosure Order. The arrests showed up on the FBI files.

Could you please be a little more specific about what you mean by "clear up?" Because at first glance that sounds the BNE required legal action - or do you mean they just wanted further explanation?

Are you asking about references to the FBI keeping criminal facts in your file and disclosing those facts as authorized? If you are, you might want to check the U.S. Department of Justice website: http://www.usdoj.gov/ Or you could check with your local FBI office. (good luck with that) State criminal code references won't do you any good. Federal laws overrule state laws.

Are you sure it's not on your FBI record? You can find out by requesting your own record. Instructions on how to do that are here: http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/fprequest.htm From that page: "All arrest data included in an Identification Record is obtained from fingerprint submissions, disposition reports and other reports submitted by agencies having criminal justice responsibilities."

You can legally deny it all you want but it will still show up on the FBI background check that gets reported to the BNE. See page 17 of this document near the bottom of the page under "Lying on or Falsification of Licensing Documents to the Board" ftp://www.bne.state.tx.us/disc-pol.pdf While others who have posted here are correct that an expungement means that the record no longer exists as far as the State of Texas is concerned, the FBI background check *will* show the information. It doesn't mean you can't get a nursing license. You have two choices: File the Declaratory Order or Go all the way through nursing school and then answer no to Section C (Eligibility Questions) Question #1 on the Application by NCLEX-RN Examination for Registered Nurses (where they specifically ask for "expunged offenses and deferred adjudications with or without prejudice of guilt") Know that the BNE can deny your application to take the NCLEX. Whether it's legal for them to insist that you admit to an expunged offense or not, you'll be sitting around waiting while your lawyer works it out with them. How much time are you willing to let slip by until they work it out? Understand that this isn't even the application to become a RN, it's the application for permission to sit and take the exam!! If you're comfortable becoming the test case for this issue and waiting around for however long it takes for the legal system to set a presedent, then more power to you. Come back to the board in a couple of years and let us know how it went. As others have said, the BNE is not your friend.

NURSEFORREAL is one of those people that get their kicks disrupting forums. DO NOT RESPOND to that person's posts. This person gets their jollies upsetting people, don't fall prey to it. The more we respond, the more garbage they will post. Just ignore those postings. Deafening silence to their posts absolutely ruins their fun.

If you decide to run a background check on yourself, don't waste your money using a service off the web or a local service. Instead, do it right and request a FBI background check on yourself (called your FBI Identification Record when it's for your own use but it will have the same information on it as what they will send to the BNE.) The FBI background check is what the BNE will request and receive and will be the most specific and accurate. *That's* the background check that will dig out the stuff you thought was long gone and forgotten. http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/fprequest.htm Note: Even if you have requested and received your own FBI Identification Record (same thing as a background check) for personal use, you still need to submit another request to be sent directly to the BNE when you file for licensure or the Declaratory Order. The BNE will not accept the FBI documentation unless it is sent direct to them from the FBI.

Before relying on this, I'd check with an attorney who has experience with how the Texas BNE and FBI background checks work. The FBI background check *will* dig up the expunged and/or sealed records - the question is whether they would report it to the BNE or not. I do know the FBI check will bring up deferred adjucated offenses whether the person has obtained a NonDisclosure Order or not. The state allows the BNE to have access to that information.

They have a good update advising session every semester on the nursing program which covers what's required for the program, what's changed from the last review, and lots of answers to questions about the program that's come up in the past. It's well worth the time. They repeat the sessions at all three campuses (even though the program itself is only available at the McKinney campus) and offer both a day and night session. The head of the program and the nursing advisor give the review. Plenty of questions get answered and you can spend time after talking to them in person. They haven't set dates for this semester yet, but go ahead and call the school and get transferred to advising. Set up an appointment with the nursing advisor (Meyer) not a general advisor to get your questions answered. Samantha edited to add: Here's the amount of hours from their nursing advising website (but it does change and this doesn't include the non-nursing courses needed for the program): First Semester RNSG 1360 Clinical 7.5 hours, 2 days/week RNSG 1523 Classroom 5 hours, 1 day/week RNSG 1219 Skills Lab 4 hours/week Second Semester RNSG 1361 Clinical 7.5 hours, 2 days/week RNSG 2504 Classroom 5 hours, 1 day/week RNSG 1229 Skills Lab 4 hours/week Third Semester RNSG 2460 Clinical 7.5 hours, 2 days/week RNSG 2514 Classroom 5 hours, 1 day/week Fourth Semester RNSG 2561 Clinical 8 hours, 2 days/week plus transition RNSG 2535 Classroom 5 hours, 1 day/week RNSG 2207 Classroom 2 hours/week

we tend to confuse forgiveness with forgetting. to forgive someone does not mean that you have to forget the pain that was inflicted and the wrongs that were done. the only person you really need to forgive is yourself. it's also the hardest thing to do. and what i mean by that is that as a child, we are not supposted to have to take care of ourselves and others. we're not supposed to have to fear the very people we want to love us so much. i was surprised at how much guilt i felt about not being "good enough." i finally realized i wasn't supposed to be. children are supposed to make mistakes. you could say it's their job - how else are they going to learn anything if they're afraid of even trying? it's ok to stop having contact with abusive people, whether they're your family or not. i think this is necessary for self-survival. the most helpful think i've ever learned is that just because a person shares your dna does not make them your family. you can chose to surround yourself with kind, loving, caring, helpful people as your family. samantha

purplemath.com is a great website for algebra problems. Here's the page that explains how to do the painting problem: http://purplemath.com/modules/workprob.htm

Thank you for posting this as it does make a lot of sense. I suspect that for the younger person, fear of the unknown combined with the lack of experience with painful life experiences has a lot to do with lower pain tolerance. I just never thought of it that way before. Samantha

Ooooh, so THAT'S why I'm so exhausted at "that time of the month" :wink2:

Oh gross. I want nothing to do with a pillow someone else has used. There's not a lot left that grosses me out but - ick ick ick. Samantha, who takes her own pillow along on vacations

Hiding? I don't think so. Just because I have a front door doesn't mean that everyone who walks up to it gets to come in my house. The phone is no different. Just because someone has access to my phone number does not mean they get to interrupt my peace and quiet anytime they feel like it. My personal time is my own. My answering machine is set up so that calls go straight to it - the phone doesn't even ring. When I'm sleeping or want some peace and quiet, the volume is off. If I'm expecting a call, the volume is on. Friends and family know to leave a message. Caller ID and answering machines are tools I use to make my life more enjoyable. Samantha

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She made the choice to take other classes. Doesn't matter why, it was still her choice. It is also her choice not to do whatever is necessary to get a good grade in this particular class (dropping the other classes or studying more.) It's also her choice to use you as a convenient excuse. Your choice is to make yourself top priority. Because nurses can't take care of patients very well if they don't take care of themselves first. It's a good lesson to learn. Samantha