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So, I just had my orientation for Nursing school yesterday, and one of the speakers (who was also an advisor) said that it has been proven that Nursing school is more difficult than medical school, even though medical school is longer. I feel like she was kind of talking out of her ***, but then I think I've heard some other people say this, since it is the job of the nurse to catch the mistakes of doctors that will kill their patients. It had me so nervous. I don't think it's true (I know the reasons she gave are true, but I don't think the conclusion of it being more difficult is true), but then, I don't have the personal experience, so who am I to judge. Just seems more like common sense that MD would be more difficult to obtain than BSN. My plan is to finish a BSN and move on (while working bedside) to med school eventually, completing their prereqs and MCAT and applying after I've been a nurse for a few years. So I guess I'll find out one way or another (assuming I finish nursing school and can get into med school, that is). I want to develop a deep appreciation for nursing, and I feel like even if I don't end up going to med school that I can continue in nursing. It seems like there are many male nurses who are satisfied in their careers. And, tbh, I just want to make a tangible impact in peoples' lives when they need it most. That's my main desire: to leave a legacy with people who need medical help and to help them keep their dignity and pride while doing so. So important, IMO. But I fell in love with health sciences during my prereqs for my program, so I really don't know if a BSN will completely satisfy that thirst for knowledge. Anywho, got off track. Just wanted to share what the advisor at my orientation said about Medical School. I don't think it's true, but I guess I'll find out one day.

They, believe it or not, are required to report a breach of a patient’s information to the patient. If they had less than an arm’s length relationship to the hospital (example: the company that teaches also owns the hospital), then it’s reasonable that they would confirm the breach first, and then reach out to the patient to advise them of what happened. At least, that’s how it is with insurance (I’ve been a health insurance auditor for 7 years, working in health insurance for about a decade) companies who also own hospitals. Not sure if it works the same for schools who own hospitals.

I’ve heard the same. I watched MD to RN’s (on Youtube) experiences with the new curriculum, and she stated how disorganized it seemed. Hopefully they’ve worked out the kinks in the system. I’m working full-time, but providentially I just was promoted and received a raise at work. Just in time! Plus, they will be giving $1500 tuition reimbursement per year, which is not a lot, but any amount helps. I’ve been working Uber/door dash and working as an auditor for an insurance company while finishing my prereqs. So with the schedule in nursing school, the Uber/door dash job will likely need to be placed on hold. On top of this, my wife is disabled and doesn’t receive disability. If it finally goes through (we’ve been waiting 7-8 months with SSDI), I may be able to just do my regular auditing job and school. I’m hoping that will be the case. Because I can only do so much.

So, my point of writing it into the criminal code was not applicable to only cases where a patient is harmed. If the ratios were written into the code, then it would become a crime simply to go over those ratios, even if no one was hurt. There would be an incentive for the hospital to abide by those ratios at all times. You can’t blame scheduling on a nurse when no one was harmed. The simple act of not scheduling enough nurses or not having enough on duty would become a crime, and in my opinion, would make the hospital system be proactive, since serious fines and/or imprisonment could happen if they exceed those. It would decrease risk significantly. If it was a crime to exceed the ratios (obviously there are other things to take into account, I’m not suggesting the wording be so simple), admin would likely be incentivized to do otherwise, since “no harm, no foul” doesn’t necessarily come into play in all cases. The increased risk to the patient itself BECOMES the crime—not the resulting harm that inevitably comes about when taking into account larger numbers (when taking into account all of the hospital systems across an entire state—not just the one that wasn’t in compliance).

Part-time for me. I’ve also submitted the Google form. They are supposed to send us an online orientation in Canvas, and we have an in-person mandatory orientation on the 17th of November, too. Getting really nervous. LOL. I should be excited. Anyway, I hope you hear something soon!

It appears in the best interest of the public to have those ratios written into the criminal code. How many have actually been harmed due to a safe ratio not being implemented, even though it’s a part of “hospital policy?” I assume plenty enough. People come to a hospital to give them a better chance at surviving, not to be overlooked and harmed. This is more than a civil issue. When it comes to harming the public through negligent practices, that’s criminal negligence, imo.

Sorry. 600. I'll see if I can edit it. You have a max of 10mg/min = 600mg/hr max. So how much of the solution must not be exceeded in order to keep below this rate? Well, there's 500mg in the 100mL bag, and, at most, 600mg must come out of these bags in an hour's time. And so what percentage of the bag must be used? The law of entropy would suggest an equal amount of medicine in each mL (because of diffusion). So, if 600 mg came out of these 500 mg bags, that's no more than 120% of a bag being used in one hour. And 120% of a 100mL bag is 120mL. So, NOW I'm thinking the rate should be no more than 120mL/hr. What a difference a few hours of sleep makes. LOL

I'm just venturing a guess here based solely on the units being used. You have a max of 10mg/min = 60 mg/hr max. So how much of the solution must not be exceeded in order to keep below this rate? Well, there's 500mg in the 100mL bag, and, at most, 60 mg must come out of the bag in an hour's time. And so what percentage of the bag must be used? The law of entropy would suggest an equal amount of medicine in each mL (because of diffusion). So, if 60 mg came out of a 500 mg bag, that's no more than 12% of the bag being used in one hour. And 12% of a 100mL bag is 12mL. So, I'm thinking the rate should be no more than 12mL/hr. But I haven't even started my program yet, so I could be way off. This just seems like the intuitive answer. What is the correct answer?

I am honestly unsure of the probability. What number of points did you have? Average for last semester for nights and weekends, I believe, was 79. So if you’re at that or just below it, you may have a chance of getting in; but if your average was in the low 70s, I spoke to some people with those kinds of scores who said that they were passed over last semester. Still, good luck, and hopefully someone declines their seat so you can get in. I looked on Reddit and there were quite a few that were waitlisted, unfortunately. I would look at other options, if your points are low seventies.

I got the email and was accepted to nights/weekends! That’s the one I applied to! ?

LOL oh my gosh! Could you imagine!?! I was be SO livid! Haha! Don’t put those thoughts into my brain! ??

Well today was the end of the six weeks. If I hear nothing tomorrow, I’ll have to give them a call. I saw on Reddit again that most people haven’t received a response. Only one person, it seems, and they had 81 pts and applied for nights and weekends concurrent with UCF.

I saw someone on Reddit got in with 81 pts, for nights/weekends, and they are in the concurrent program with UCF. Hoping to hear tomorrow or Thursday. ?

Yes. Thursday marks 6 weeks. And registration begins next week, I believe; but it doesn’t look like anyone has received notice one way or the other, yet. They are cutting it close this semester, it seems. Hopefully we hear something in the next couple of days. They sure know how to drive people nuts, though.

Waiting suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks…….

Spring registration starts in November. Hopefully we hear something soon.

Anything yet? Nothing on my end.

I believe offers start going out this coming weekend, so keep an eye on your Valencia email! ?

Yeah same here about the study groups. But I did share my flash cards that I created on Quizlet. I love that app.

Well, I hope to see you there! Yes I’ve heard horrible things about their new program recently, too, but the nights and weekend track is at least part-time. Hoping to get that extra point in the next few weeks so if I don’t get in this time around, then maybe I’ll just save up money and try again next time. But the average points for the last couple semesters for nights and weekends was in the mid to high 70s, so I think you and I are safe. Plus you never know how well the complainers did in their prereqs and if they were really ready for college life. The way they wrote, it almost seemed like they expected it to be like high school where the prof should take extra time to explain things in more detail after class. I’ve been to a few colleges/universities, and most places are usually “learn on your own” and if you have questions go to tutorial (usually taught by a TA) or get a tutor. The profs usually don’t take extra time out of their busy schedules to help a single student. That’s just how it is. This is my first time at a community college (plus I’m not from the USA), and some students seem to not be at all prepared to learn on their own. I think with our prereq GPAs you and I will do fine. Might want to set up a study group early if we get in (though I’m not sure how they work, I am so used to studying on my own) Congrats on your grades btw! I really think we’re going to get in. Hoping at least. I suppose you never know until you get the notice! Any day now! ?

For my school, they taught physiology along with anatomy throughout the whole semester one and the same throughout semester two. There was more physiology in the second course, but both were a mixture of both subjects. The school to which I applied just had the requirement that you take both courses at the same school, probably for the reason you mentioned, the curriculum is taught differently at different schools. The content should, theoretically, be the same, when taking everything into account, though.

Just realized you mentioned that there is a course that teaches both. So I assume that the credits you get will be 8 credit hours for two courses taken over two semesters. Or maybe they’ve sped up the course work so that the information of two courses could be put into 3.5 months. Hey, if you can do that, why not? But don’t try to take two separate courses in the same semester. There are concepts from AP I upon which AP II builds. If they offer it as a single course, and you feel advanced enough to do it, go for it. I got A’s in both, but I took them separately. Just beware that there is A LOT OF READING. I’m talking about 100 pages per week for just one course (double the load, I assume they are doubling the work). Plus lots of parts to memorize, and your other courses. I worked full time and took AP I with developmental psych and Microbiology in one semester, and then the second course with composition and intro to literature. So it’s probably doable depending on your course load. Good luck.

Deadline for Spring 2023 cohort is this Thursday. Get those apps in! I’ve been looking all over the interwebs and wow! Lots of people have nothing but negative things to say about this program (before major changes were implemented). I’m hoping it has improved. It’s really my only option though, since I work during the daytime, take my wife to doctors appointments because she is disabled, and need a part-time program. If I just have to spend 1 2/3 years not sleeping then so be it. Won’t be any different than certain times at work. Just need to be disciplined. Some of the complaints about “self-teaching” kind of made me want to say something like, “Well, you’re not in high school anymore. Plus people’s lives and dignity will be in your hands. Learn to learn.” But I just kept seeing the same complaints over and over, and if there’s one thing I’ve learned over time, it’s that one should never just believe one person when it comes to disparaging remarks; but one should never ignore 2 or more people who say the same thing. So I’m a little nervous, but will just have to push through if accepted. Any recent new students that began this fall have insights into the new program? Just wondering if you would say similar things. The students were also adamant that the faculty were very rude to student nurses. I may be writing into the abyss, but I intend to keep a record of my journey. Perhaps I’ll start a vlog. There is a student nurse who is finishing this fall on Youtube with the handle MD to RN and her complaints were more along the lines of the time commitment, which she remedied by going part-time. So I could definitely pick up where she leaves off this fall to keep people in the “know” about the program, it’s strengths, and areas of opportunity for faculty as a whole. NEVER would I name any particular Professor if I had a problem with them, as I just feel it’s unprofessional. I have had to have a talk with one of my professors in the past about professionalism in the classroom, and they had a very good attitude about it and took it to heart and changed their style, as he was coming across as rude to some students. And as long as you are professional and kind and let them know that you are there to learn from them, I find some are very open to constructive criticism. Others may have too much pride. You just have to know when you’re going to be wasting your time and when you’re going to be helpful. And remain teachable for them too, because they will likely have some stuff you could work on. Respect is a two-way street. Profs are people, too. Anyway, enough about that. I am excited because it’s getting closer to decision time and I think I have a very good chance of getting in. But I also don’t want to get ahead of myself and presume. I’m just going to wait and see, and update any audience willing to listen. Again, if you’ve applied or will apply, good luck to you! I hope to see you in January! Please feel free to respond so I know you’re out there!

So this was my strategy for prereqs. I studied “for dummies” books and workbooks because they are cheap and they give a brief overview of major themes in almost any topic being discussed. And they use experts to write those books. They are VERY underrated. I received straight a’s in my prereqs probably because of those books. I intend to do the same for the theory portion of nursing school. The more times you expose yourself to a topic, the more likely you are to commit it to long term memory.

Okay…you’ve described my life. LOL. I’ve actually learned tools and tricks with help from others and strategies I’ve used to help me remember what I’ve been told. And I keep great notes (my most powerful tool) BUT a behavioral health provider may be able to help you, too. But it will require a real work on your part to overcome these impediments. If you explain your issues, they might be able to offer suggestions regarding strategies to help with memory, and in severe cases you could be referred to a doctor that might be able to prescribe you medicine that will help you focus. You never know if you might have a personality trait that causes you to lose focus, like adhd. I’m not diagnosing you. My life experience has shown me that people often don’t realize they need medication, even when it is affecting their lives to the extent that you feel it is affecting yours. They often go for years without a diagnosis and suffer needlessly when all they need is just a little help. I would discuss this issue you’re having with focusing with your PCP, if I were you. They might be able to help or refer to a psychologist for an evaluation. I personally have tried a psychiatrist for certain things like depression and I find they aren’t as good as a PCP who takes your whole medical history into account and who probably knows you better than specialists. Don’t get me wrong. Specialists are needed, but for initial behavioral issues, I would start with your PCP. If they think you need a referral they’ll give one to you. If this is the only thing standing in your way from going into nursing, it’s probably worth checking out. And the fact that you are worried and thinking “patient first” makes me believe that your heart is in the right spot. But only you can know if you should go into nursing. Don’t be afraid of going to a doctor, though. You may just need help with organizational strategies you aren’t aware of. Or you may need medicine. I don’t know you. I do think a lack of focus is negatively affecting your life though, based on what you’ve said, so you may wish to seek help from a professional. There’s no shame in anything like that. Regarding speaking up when you feel someone is wrong about something, that will come with confidence gained through experience. That’s a natural part of life. And you’ll gain more confidence, the harder you study and the more you immerse yourself in your topics, and the more life you live. Nothing wrong with humility. But again, a behavioral health provider could give you strategies to help point out mistakes in a way that you can feel comfortable and that doesn’t hurt the pride of the person you are correcting. Sometimes a person just needs to be asked the question, “what about this?” Or “what if such and such happens?” And this comes across, not as hubris, but as a willingness to learn. Teachability is a hard trait to find. This humility is a trait you can turn into a strength, imo. So talk to your provider and be as open as you were with us about your issues and your concerns, and mention that you want to go into nursing. The doctors I work with (I work for an insurer which is also a medical group) definitely care. I hope you find one that cares for you, too. Again, just my opinion.