Hobe

Our ADN had community nursing. They also told us the C stiudents made better nurses the A students were to by the book. LOL.

Changing the NCLEX won't make better nurses. They will just teach to the test, practice to the test and learn how to pass the test. The only the thing that will make a better nurse is other nurses, mentors, kindness, self-care, safe patient ratios, good training and support especially from the facilities that hire nurses.

Here's the thing, an ADN gives you everything you need to be a good nurse, just because you get a BSN doesn't mean you'll be a better nurse. They did grandfather in ADN in my state but any new nurse getting an ADN needs to get a BSN in 10 years. It's a money grab for colleges and a status symbol for hospitals. I would never, even with employer help, have the extra money to spend on it or the time especially to do clinicals. The return on investment wasn't there. I did go to a college open house $20,000. I see some now advertising online for $11,000 but I am not sure I believe that will be the final cost. Our ADN program had a better NCLEX pass rate than the 4 year BSN schools. What would make better nurses? Other nurse could mold better nurses by giving better training. Hospitals should be advocating for better training. I get it. It's hard to train when you are overworked. New nurses regardless of the degree are thrown into the trenches of the hospital to sink or swim. I never wanted to be a hospital nurse but nursing schools are all oriented towards hospital nursing. News flash, there are plenty of other types of nursing. I get more out of CE's, professional development, experience and mentors then I could ever get from additional college courses to give me a BSN after my name. 62 years young

Well, talk about eating your own, someone was asking for advice trying to do the right thing respectfully in the new age and gets judged and critized, projecting that the writer had negative ideals, that is not helpful . Highly disappointed in this forum. We do not have the students take off their shirts, and do the best we can through clothing as there is limited privacy in our offices, it is only a screening, not an exam. The MD should the exam during the physical, if not shame on them. It is fairly easy to spot with a T-shirt on (caught plenty) and we only do those who are not done on their physicals.