Migrating

Long story... I am a nursing student who took Human Nutrition (HUN1201) (I received a C+... I had a major car accident and undiagnosed at the time, PTSD, this pretty much caused the downfall of my grade in this class, and this is the only class I've made lower than a B in). To be competitive for the program, I really need to retake this course, because they use a point-based selection system that awards points to the grade that you earned in this course. I did attempt a C or Better appeal at my institution, and they denied it but I spoke with them and they informed me colloquially that if I were to find an institution that strictly requires you to have a B in Human Nutrition to enter (can be any Nursing/MD/anything program in the country), as long as I acted as if this was planning to pursue this school in the letter, that they would allow me to retake this course in the spring which I badly need to do. I literally cannot raise my point value for this selection system any higher and I do not believe I will make the cutoffs. If anyone here can find/knows a program that strictly requires a B in HUN1201 (Human Nutrition) please let me know of the name of this institution so I can use this.

Hello, I applied months ago and I was one from the previous cycle, I am currently applying with 47 points, my Nutrition course did not go as planned and my overall GPA took a minor hit that bumped it down from 3.6. Will reply when I get notice!

I got my rejection letter, not surprised! But, I am grateful for the people who got in. Best of wishes to the future nurses. ?

Happy early birthday manifnurse!

Well, the way the department sees the course, they have to have a grade for each prerequisite. So, they “fill in” a grade of a B. I could petition to retake the courses... but, I’d risk not getting instate tuition or my scholarships not funding the class. My advice for high school students (who know early on what they wish to do with nursing) is to take dual enrollment if they’re extremely dedicated, or take honors high school classes. Basically, I’m locked out of making the highest prereq gpa bracket. Although, I’m not complaining! Thank you so much for trying to help! You have quite a bit of points and I’m sure you’ll get in! The cutoff last time was a 45 for Spring 2019 (although fall applications are more competitive.) It was lower from previous years due to the fact they removed technical certifications as being an application booster of 10 points. As I said, I really do wish you the best! Good luck! ?

To all students who read this in the future and were told to do AP courses in HS - don’t. I lost considerable points on my prereq GPA because it’s “forced” them to give my English and Psych (which... let’s be honest are probably not going to be as hard as say stats or micro) B’s to “fill in.” I can’t retake those courses. I feel horrible. Oh well. At least I’m 18 and can have a good chance next app cycle!

Applying with 45. Scared to death and don’t think I’ll get in. Also my first time applying. Will apply the next cycle and I’m doing human nutrition over the summer so I’ll be at 55 next cycle. Good luck to all!

I'm going to be honest... I'm a major oddball! I actually shocked people when I said I was going to do nursing. With that being said... College Algebra: A Microbiology: A Chemistry 1 & 2: A Statistics: A English and Psych: I passed these with AP in HS! Dev Psych: A Human Nutrition: A Drum roll: I barely made B's in BOTH A&P I & II. I honestly have major memorization trouble with some of the core concepts because I have not taken Organic Chemistry which really makes everything harder for me to visualize and understand the Physiology, further, memorizing diagrams and models is just not my thing! This all being said, I have a wonderful GPA and many colleges are not worried about it. OP, do the best you can and excel in what you are good at. Don't let one subject or class stand in the way of your career goals. - I will add that I am a student in my (technically) third semester of college and I am only 18 years old. I took Dual Enrollment when I was in high school so that's why a lot of my credits are completed so early. I genuinely do not believe I am a genius and I did not study for each subject 3+ hours a day. I wish I did I might have done better in A&P but I don't believe this is the end of the world.

Thanks for a lot of the insight. I ask these questions because I wish to do pain not necessarily for the money (please understand, this would technically be a year of "wasted" salary if I did decide to apply for a "fellowship" in pain) but because I have family in pain management itself, and I was always very interested in doing this. I would intend to provide care to underserved areas not open up "pill mills." Do you have a website I can look into for the states that are more lenient to CRNAs practicing pain? Or could you list some if convenient to you? I can't seem to find useful information online about this.

Not a nurse (yet!), but I have seen this situation happen before. As some others have said, find a better workplace. You're an RN; you have experience, even if that experience in your particular area isn't what they're looking for, you can still be precepted. Find critical care, ED, or better-paying positions that can allow you more wiggle-room financially. You may end up having to work the 3-12's at a hospital to break even financially and daycare your child some days but at the end, raising your little one, having a decent place to call "home" (whether house or rent), and demanding better for your colleagues (finding a better paying job) does yourself and everyone here a major service. Stop letting people take advantage of you, and live your life the way you should!

Sadly, I think this might be another one of those "one thread wonders" where the OP doesn't reply to any of the great comments and suggestions anymore.

Well, that is true! Thank you for enlightening me. I do find it interesting that they consider some finance-related subjects in STEM despite none of the math, in particular, being too "advanced." Though using representative data and organizing exponential functions is a little beyond the average day-to-day "typical" nursing job. I have to agree again that nursing does have that social component that truly elevates itself. Thank you also for your insight as a previous social worker and how that relates to this topic. This was actually very insightful as well. Thank you for your input! I have to agree that nursing does encompass a social aspect that uniquely utilizes STEM. That was funny! -- Thank you all for contributing your opinions to this topic. It has opened my eyes even more than I previously thought. I now understand better why Nursing may not fall under STEM in strict conditions.

I'm a curious student enquiring about specific fields and prospects. As such, I have done some research and came across the following: https://www.aana.com/ce-education/pain-management/advanced-pain-management-fellowship-program. So... this is something I have never heard about; are there CRNAs that own pain management clinics and work in the same scope of practice as a pain management physician? I am aware that pain management physician anesthesiologists also make considerably more than traditional physician anesthesiologists? Is the same true for these fellowship-trained CRNAs? Thank you if anyone responds!

I bet if BladeMDA from SDN saw this post... oh I'd need to get some popcorn for this one! Student here, no dog in this fight one way or the other.

I am so happy for you! You remained so strong and diligent throughout that process and I am sure that the BRN agreed! You must feel really proud of yourself!

Earlier, and about, I stumbled across multiple sources claiming that nursing is not a STEM major. I found the fact they stated that to be somewhat insulting and that those people genuinely have only a vague idea of what nursing is. Is nursing science-based? Of course, nursing is science-based! We take a lot of the same pre-requisites that medical students do, and most of the "hard" sciences are not "allied health" nursing classes that the majority assume they are. We have to take the same Chemistries; most require a math class (many are demanding Statistics as well as pre-calculus... some I have seen need calculus), nurses also take Anatomy and Physiology I & II, Microbiology, Pathophysiology, and several various clinical sciences about the nursing field. Technology? Go into an ICU, find out for yourself. Of course, nursing is technology-based, and it is becoming more than ever! Nurses today have to learn the mechanics and inner workings of so many medical chartings and screenings as well as the machines that are keeping people alive and those machine's functions. Overall, there are few fields more technology-based than nursing. Engineering? In the classical sense, nursing isn't engineering. However, that is a particular subgroup, and one could argue that nursing does have to work with technology to in many cases, keep a patient alive. Mathematics? Nursing is very math-focused in many areas. Drug calculations and dosages are everyday math that nurses have to chart and be aware of that can very well interfere with a patient's wellbeing. Several other factors could also be considered mathematical. Are we engineers or accountants? No. But is it a field that uses mathematics daily? Absolutely! I believe the above reasons should qualify for nursing for "STEM." Further, we have a shortage of trained nurses in this country to meet the demand of today's healthcare system; why not consider it a STEM profession especially given the real need of them in today's society? Additionally, supporting women by counting them as a STEM field would increase the numbers and provide scholarships for women in healthcare across the nation. I fail to see why many academic institutions frown upon today's nurses given that it is no longer a "female-only" profession, it no longer provides horrible pay comparatively (it won't necessarily buy you a Ferrari, but it will very much so allow you to live a comfortable lifestyle in many locations), and it provides a real value to society.

Hello, I am an aspiring RN at Santa Fe college. Somethings I wish I had known before taking this class that may help others aspiring to it: 1. Print out lab sheets and redo them over and over!!! (If I had made better grades in this section, I might have made an A. I made a 44% over lab exam grade and I managed to rake my grade up to a B, so don't give up hope!) 2. Every single point (even 1%) counts!!! I did an online assignment that most people blew off in my class, and that one percent took me from a 78.91 to a 79.91 and my teacher curved my grade and made it an 80% B. You truly never know how much each point matters! Never give up! 3. If you know and feel in your gut you are not prepared and you need more practice and would rather spend time doing other non-productive things, study it anyways. Fight your procrastination. Sometimes, it took me driving over to Shands hospital, the place I wish to work in, to remind myself of how rewarding the end of my RN journey will be. 4. Something I wish I did but honestly was too shy to do... find/make a study group! The power of three is substantially stronger than one. Find the smartest people in your class, and get with them any time you can even make time to get with them. The grades DO matter! 5. A&P is a toughie! But, it is NOT a one-shot ordeal. If you fail it the first time, do NOT give up your dreams! Retake it! Or if you make a C, keep progress onto A&P II, work your bum off, and ride it out. If you don't get in the first time, retake the course! And despite what some will tell you, a B in Anatomy and Physioogy is a GOOD grade. Half of the people who enter, fail. Remind yourself this. Above all else, remind yourself why you want to be an RN. Why you cannot become that account, why you'd rather be a nurse than anything else in the world. Take that dedication and really apply it to your studying. Thank you to all the posters in the pre-nursing section who have helped me with studying techniques and suggestions and the encouragement to not give up my dreams.

Hello, I am new to this forum, my apologies. However, I am wondering because I am on the pre-med track right now but I have major financial setbacks right now that make 4 years of Medical school plus 2 years of Ugrad in debt and training a little unobtainable. I am however just as interested in Nursing as I am Medicine (I have major respect for both and I understand there is only a small percentage who can truly feel "okay" in both camps, but I feel I am one of the exceptions.) And I am wondering, since I completed my A.S. in pre-med courses, can I apply for a BSN program that doesn't force me to go through the ADN/ASN to BSN route and make me retake the first two years of Associates over? I would like to get my BSN instead of having to go through the ASN route, I hope that I've made that clear. I mean no disrespect to anyone who has had to endure that route, I just am trying to explore my options. Thank you!