Published Jul 3, 2006
rsmit02
122 Posts
Hi all,
Ok a complicated question as those who know me know I am a UK nurse Psychiatrically trained and sat waiting for my CES report from CGFNS to be issued to know what hours I need to make up to sit nclex.
I am quickly becoming aware it is going to be a long wait for the Report not the 6 weeks they advertise and going off the people here still waiting its going to be christmas till I get mine!
So I am sick of waiting I plan to make my hours up in the USA anyway so I am going to apply for the Nursing programme in Burlington Community College in New Jersey and get an F1 student visa and go out to the USA January 2007. The wait is about a year to start nursing so in that time I will do Spanish, maths and biology anything as long as its full time and make up any nursing hours I can to along the way. The hope is I will make up the nursing hours on the F1 visa then just apply for change of status for my green card.
BUT my question is I am currently having my last go at IVF and if it works I will be 3/4 months pregnant at visa interview for F1 visa around November and 5/6 months pregnant when moving to USA in January. Will this matter will they be likely to reject my application. Our plan is for my husband to look after the baby and me to be going to college. Do I need to declare the baby at visa interview?
What do you guys think? (I like my life complicated dont I LOL!!!)
Ruthx
madwife2002, BSN, RN
26 Articles; 4,777 Posts
I really wouldnt lie it may affect your overall application. Can you not wait until after the birth of your baby?
Are you aware of how expensive it is to have a baby in the USA, and that is if everything goes normally. I doubt your insurance will cover pregnancy, so make sure you have $10000 with you just for the babies birth. If you choose not to have that kind of money and have no insurance they will bill you regardless.
I know I must look into the cost of giving birth over there I must see if I can get medical insurance to cover the pregnancy. I could wait till next July for that student intake if I got pregnant my potential baby would be about 3 months old then. I have been trying for a baby for 8 years and this is my 14th and final fertility treatment there is little chance it will work but of course now I have put all my energy and hope into moving to the usa it may well!!!! LOL! Either way I cant lose hey!
I am so so impatient to get to the USA my sister is pregnant and due in February my brother is now living there too he went out on an F1 visa to do his nursing.
Hi,
For most oversea's people, health insurances will NOT cover preganancy. Normally you have to be in the country for 6-12months before independant insurance agencies will insure your health and then they will put a pregnancy claus in the contract. In the Uk you can get a backpackers kind of insurance but normally it is for 90 days, if you take the year long travel insurance again read the small print.
As a midwife my advice to you is if you succeed in getting pregnant stay in the UK and let the doc's there follow you through your pregnancy, it will be cheaper and safer. As you have never had a baby you cannot have any inclination of how well your preganancy will develop and how well you will do in child birth. The cost could get into the 100's of thousands of dollars especially if you need a C/S or baby needs NICU. Be safe rather than sorry. I understand your need to get over here but you are only 31 what difference does a few more months make, if you end result is a beautiful healthy baby.
suzanne4, RN
26,410 Posts
There is also no way that you are going to get accepted into the nursing part of a program for January. It is not going to happen, the community colleges have almost two year waiting lists there.
And the CES will not take until Christmas time to get, not sure who is telling you that.
Hiya,
I know I wont be starting my nursing in January the way it works the international student advisor at Burlington Community college said is I apply for the nursing programme, they issue the I-20 I have my visa interview in London for the F1 visa and then I come out to the USA and start the nursing pre-requisits in January. I will start the actuall 2 year nursing programme either Fall semester or the following January as long as I stay at the college doing 12 credits my F1 visa is valid.
However I probably wont even get to the point of doing my nursing again that is only my fall back plan while I am there on the F1 visa the international advisor said I can look for somewhere to make up hours and if need be transfer my I-20 to there or Burlington Nursing Dean said once i am enroled in the college they will try their best to fit me into the classes I need to make up. As long as I do 12 credits or more my F1 visa is valid.
Once these hours are made up I plan submit them to cgfns to get my complete CES report and apply to NJ board to sit nclex, then find an employer and file for AOS, and submitt my visa screen.
I have got $40,000 worth of money in the bank to show for independant funds for my F1 and for us to live on while I do classes, make up hours and file for AOS. We will be living with my sister so all we will have expense wise is school, food, car insurance and mobile phones. We will either take out the colleges health insurance or pay for more comprehensive insurance ourselves.
Do you guys think there are any major flaws in our plan? I think if i get pregnant we will wait and just go out on the F1 for next Aug for fall semester next year.
As for CES taking till christmas if you go on the timelines of may here submitted and all documents in by March and still no report which is 4 months it feels like it will be christmas till i get mine LOL!! It doesnt really matter when it comes there is nowhere here in the UK I can find to make up the hours and it seems I will need ALL my Theory and practical hours in Medical and surgical!!!!
Ruth x
First, you had an issue with incorrect dates, or you would have had the Certificate by now. And that was on your end, not that of CGFNS. Until you know what you need to make-up, why are you jumping ahead? Makes absolutely no sense, it may be as little as two courses, and then you do not even need the F-1 visa.
You are trying to get ahead of yourself and it will only cause you more issues later on. Pregnancy is also considered a pre-existing condition, so you will find it difficult to get insurance to cover you. If you havre any problems with the pregnancy, and do not have coverage here, that money that you have can be gone in a blink.
And just because you get accepted to a community college, that does not give you automatic acceptance into the actual nursing program. If you are just making up courses, then you area guest student, no reason to take a slot from a student that is going to go thru the full program, which you do not need to do.
First, you had an issue with incorrect dates, or you would have had the Certificate by now. And that was on your end, not that of CGFNS. Until you know what you need to make-up, why are you jumping ahead? Makes absolutely no sense, it may be as little as two courses, and then you do not even need the F-1 visa.You are trying to get ahead of yourself and it will only cause you more issues later on. Pregnancy is also considered a pre-existing condition, so you will find it difficult to get insurance to cover you. If you havre any problems with the pregnancy, and do not have coverage here, that money that you have can be gone in a blink.And just because you get accepted to a community college, that does not give you automatic acceptance into the actual nursing program. If you are just making up courses, then you area guest student, no reason to take a slot from a student that is going to go thru the full program, which you do not need to do.
Hi suzanne,
I hope my post has not annoyed you in any way, I know it is my fault with the dates I had no idea I needed to be specific to the actual day I started the course and im not blaming cgfns for that.
As for getting pregnant I will stay in the Uk till I deliver i have looked into health insurance and costs and it makes sense. I know I am ahead of myself its my main character flaw im afraid LOL!! But I am wanting to get to the usa as soon as possible and with application forms and visa interview dates needing booked I DO need to start thinking about applying to Burlington Community College in the next month or so.
I am going on an F1 visa to make up hours as I can file for AOS from that visa and I can afford it, I do not want to go to the usa on a toursist visa to make up hours as I would have to return home and would have no where to live and no job anyway so may as well just stay in usa where I can live with my sister. See to me it makes sense to just go sooner rather than later on an F1 visa if we can, I quite fancy doing Spanish at college.
I also have no intentions of taking a place from someone on the nursing course when I apply to Burlington they told me to apply for the nursing course as I have to pick a degree or major to go for for the I-20 I cant just say I want to come study random courses, I know it doesnt automatically get me into nursing and if i can make up the hours and dont need to retrain I will of course not take the nursing place!!!
Please do not be annoyed with me I am only thinking aloud so to speak and doing my best to figure out how to move closer to my sister as soon as possible she is due the the families 1st baby in February and I desperately want to be there.
Hiya all,
Just wanted to update on this thread I ranf the NJ Dept of Insurance then a few insurance providors and found out all the info I needed.
As I am coming to USA from a country that is considered as having "Socialised Medicine" I am considered for insurance purposes as "Comprehensively insured" As NJ is a "Guarenteed Issue State" insurance for pregnancy isno problem. Every insurance provider I called said all I needed to put in the box on the application form for insurance where it asks for current insurance is "Socialised Health Care UK" So even if I go to the usa pregnant I just apply for insurance and as I am considered already insured they waive the 12 months before insurance starts it starts right away so I would be covered for delivery and all pregnancy costs.
I got a few quotes for insurance which ranged from $382 to $561 per month for me and same again for husband if he wanted as comprehensive a plan as me.
Now all I need to consider is if I would be issued and F1 visa while 4 months pregnant or should I not mention it. I asked the international advisor at the college I intent to go to and she said if a student was pregnant they could take time out for the delivery and stay in status as long as they went back to school when there doctor said they could. You can even go part time at the school and maintain status after the birth of a baby.
Not that I am definately going to get pregnant or definately go to usa in December but it has been interesting finding things out and covering all my bases!!!
Thats great news I am really pleased for you