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New pay offer

From Nursing Times online

New pay offer made to nurses

2 August 2007

A new staged pay package has been offered to nurses and health service workers in England by the government after lengthy discussions.

The staged award of 1.5% from April and a further 1% in November remains - but, as predicted by NT, the government has offered other benefits to sweeten the deal.

In England, staff on Agenda for Change band five and above will receive £38 if they are required to register for practice. This will cover the £33 increase in this year's NMC fee rise. The majority of the bonuses will focus on the lowest paid NHS staff.

From November, those on bands one and two will receive a £400 flat rate and those on bands three and four will receive an additional £38 as well as the 2.5% increase. This applies to all four countries.

There will also be additional staff training money for non-clinical staff in England. Unions, employers and the government have agreed to enter into talks over the Agenda for Change pay structure and its terms and conditions.

Mike Jackson, Unison's senior national officer for health, said: 'This will provide an opportunity for Unison to pursue long-standing policies such as a reduction in the working week and abolition of Band one.'

Unison will ballot members on the new proposals between 20 August and 13 September. A separate indicative ballot by the RCN on the old staged pay deal closes next week.

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Can't see too much of a difference, it is still staged in 2 parts and wow the extra £38 will go far but seems to be aimed at less than band 5 where as nurses start on band 5, unless I am missing something

Agenda for Change has been a huge, obscenely expensive con from start to finish. As a union activist I participated in the evaluation process. I was disgusted by the cynical manioulations to slot front line posts into predetermined bands to suit budget available, while "talking up" existing individual posts to maintain status and hierarchies. No sight of the robust, fair, open evaluation of skills, knowledge and efforts we were promised. Needless to say I don't sit on the panels any more, and am supporting my colleagues [both qualified and unqualified] in requesting a review of banding, that will honestly reflect what is expected of us in post. This best negotiation our union leaders can get for us is further insult. They colluded too much with the initial process, and now that the injustices and anomolies are rearing their heads they are trying to appear as though they still have some influence and motivation to correct the injustice. I hope other nurses are rejecting what has been imposed on them, despite lack of support. The NHS would collapse if we all worked to the national job description of band 5- where the majority have been placed regardless of what their job entails.

But have you read the RCN website? They are talking about accepting the offer as apparently the government have said that's their final offer. I can't believe that we are to roll over and give in this easily - the offer's pants! Wonder if the RCN will lose members now?

But have you read the RCN website? They are talking about accepting the offer as apparently the government have said that's their final offer. I can't believe that we are to roll over and give in this easily - the offer's pants! Wonder if the RCN will lose members now?

I left the RCN in 88 when they hardly supported EN's when the grading came out. It always seems to be the nurses call over and give up. Definately agree pants

I have been in my current post for 1 year. I was employed initially on band 5. I received a letter a couple of months ago saying that under agenda for change my post had been re-graded to band 6. I was unaware that it was under review and had no involvement in the process.

Whilst I am pleased that my post has been upgraded it has caused me a problem. I work full time night duty which fits in with my family. My manager has recently told me that I have to go on days in order to fulfil the requirements of my grade.

My post was re-graded with no mention of doing days. I do nights to fit in with my family and whilst my contract in not specifically nights it was agreed informally prior to my employment and had been like this for a year.

I have offered to do some days when it is school holidays as my main problem is being available before and after school, in holiday time I can arrange more flexible childcare. My offer has been refused and I have been put on days for 2 months from September. I have been told that I can do school hours but I have a full time contract so I would have to work 7 days a week to get all my hours in or else take a drop in hours.

My pay rise has caused my more bother than I could possibly imagine. I will probably end up quitting my job and doing agency work. Considering I did not even ask for a pay rise it has not done me any favours at all.

Has anyone else experienced such problems?

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