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2nd offense

Hello, have any of you ever been in trouble with the nursing board twice and how did it go the second time? Were the stipulations worse than the first?  Just trying to get some personal experiences.  I do have a lawyer for when the time comes.  The board hasn't notified me of the complaint yet. 

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Never personally been in trouble twice, but have experience with other nurses in trouble twice. The words "in trouble" can mean radically different things. In trouble twice for diversion a second time? In trouble twice for a reprimand due to a couple of drug errors and then 3 years later, in trouble for forgetting to renew a license? You can see.....the two examples above are both situations where a nurse is in trouble twice, but "in trouble" for 2 radically different things.

If you are talking about a nurse who diverts, completes a 4 or 5 year program, then diverts again at 8 years, many of these nurses have licenses revoked. Far, far more likely to face Revocation when the nurse gets in trouble a second time for diversion. 

There are posts here when  someone diverted more than once after a monitoring is and kept their license.  One person did some crazy stuff and had to do forever monitoring 

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Healer555 said:

There are posts here when  someone diverted more than once after a monitoring is and kept their license.  One person did some crazy stuff and had to do forever monitoring 

Good, the diversion was 1 pill . Hopefully I can just get probation again.  My drug screen was negative 

mississippiRN71 said:

Good, the diversion was 1 pill . Hopefully I can just get probation again.  My drug screen was negative 

Just to clarify my comment, diverted after a monitoring agreement for Diversion not diverted one pill. 

If you diverted one pill and admitted it, you will be sent by your BON for an SUD eval. If enough time has gone by since you completed your first monitoring agreement, your license is unlikely to be revoked. If you diverted the 2nd time for something occurring over a 2 or 3 or 6 month period with multiple Fentanyl vials missing, there's a 50-50 chance your license is revoked or you get monitoring for the rest of your nursing career if not revoked and you have restrictions for the rest of your career.

 

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OK I completed probation in 2022. This was just a one time incident and my drug test was negative. I took the pill, but then got scared and threw it away.  they still knew I did it. A coworker saw me and reported me. I was discharging a resident. 

So if the SUD eval  comes back saying that I don't need anything further. I wonder if the board will go ahead and do anything like probation. If I got a hair follicle test, it would even be negative

mississippiRN71 said:

OK I completed probation in 2022. This was just a one time incident and my drug test was negative. I took the pill, but then got scared and threw it away.  they still knew I did it. A coworker saw me and reported me. I was discharging a resident. 

So if the SUD eval  comes back saying that I don't need anything further. I wonder if the board will go ahead and do anything like probation. If I got a hair follicle test, it would even be negative

The drug test shows no use. A hair test would go back further but someone saw you divert.  

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Healer555 said:

The drug test shows no use. A hair test would go back further but someone saw you divert.  

Right . So I wonder how severe they will be with it being a one time thing iand my test even being negative. They haven't reached out to me yet and it happened in November-  when I get notice from them I'm definitely going to hire a lawyer.  I'm trying to  save up for one 

mississippiRN71 said:

Right . So I wonder how severe they will be with it being a one time thing iand my test even being negative. They haven't reached out to me yet and it happened in November-  when I get notice from them I'm definitely going to hire a lawyer.  I'm trying to  save up for one 

Im not a lawyer or anything but this is a big deal. They don't know if it was a one time thing or the first time you were caught. I would bet you can keep your license but I'd expect a monitoring agreement unless they didn't report you. Learn from this and never do anything to jeopardize your license again . I would actually get a hair and nail test to support it being a one time thing. 

If it truly was a one time thing, the hair and nail test sounds like a great idea because both will likely be negative. Even with the sensitive tests for opiates (assuming it was an opiate), it usually takes more than 1 dose to cross the threshold for a positive test on hair or nails. 

Nurse since 87, never been in trouble. Twice for the same thing?  Twice? Slow learner?

RN1987 said:

Nurse since 87, never been in trouble. Twice for the same thing?  Twice? Slow learner?

I really don't think your comment was helpful.  Did you think it was helpful when you posted it? Insensitive all the time or bad day? 

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