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My RN program doesn't include Med Surg or Pharmacology!? CONFUSED

Okay I'm still reslly new to understanding a lot of the nursing stuff but I'm a little baffled right now. I'm planning to go into nursing at Pasco-Hernando Community college and have been looking intensely over the curriculum a lot. Something that is really confusing me is this:

These are the core NURSING classes for the generic RN track: Fundamentals of Nursing, Adult Nursing I, Maternal-Child Nursing, Adult Nursing II, Adult Nursing III, and Nursing Role & Scope. [that is just the NURSING classes, not the general education]

Now the LPN program has no pre reqs and these are the classes: Fundamentals of Nursing, Fundamentals of Nursing II, Body Structure and Function, Medication Administration/ Pharmacology, Medical Surgical Nursing I. Medical Surgical Nursing II, Gerontological Nursing, and Maternal-Child Nursing.

Is it just me or does it seem like the LPN is more intense and more ...well...'nursing' orientated?

I must sound really stupid asking this...but could someone PLEASE explain to me why the Nursing is suppose to be so intense but doesn't appear to be so on paper? Once again, sorry if I sound really dumb but I need to learn this! I have to figure out which program I want to go into...which really depends on which one I will learn more in....

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Adult nursing I, II & III might be med-surg by another name. I'm in Australia so I don't know how different our course is to yours but in first and second year we did Adult Nursing I, II, III & IV, each with a focus on a different body system or set of body systems and had an medical and/or surgical adult clinical placement with each one. It could just be med-surg (which is basically just adult ward nursing) by another name.

As the poster above said, adult nursing I, II, and III are med-surg.

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Adult nursing I, II & III might be med-surg by another name. I'm in Australia so I don't know how different our course is to yours but in first and second year we did Adult Nursing I, II, III & IV, each with a focus on a different body system or set of body systems and had an medical and/or surgical adult clinical placement with each one. It could just be med-surg (which is basically just adult ward nursing) by another name.

Alright that makes sense...but then where is Pharmacology? Is that included in it?

That sounds much like our ADN program. Pharmacology will be dribbled out in bits & pieces in all your course work.

If its accreditted program and approved by your states bon then I wouldn't be worrying about what nursing classes you may be taking but more about just getting in.

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That sounds much like our ADN program. Pharmacology will be dribbled out in bits & pieces in all your course work.

Yeah I guess your right, I mean it's not possible that they won't include it.:jester:

It's called an "Integrated" curriculum. Med-surg and Pharm are integrated throughout the 4 semesters, as opposed to having one or two dedicated classes.

Alright that makes sense...but then where is Pharmacology? Is that included in it?

Not all schools have a separate Pharmacology class. We had one, and I'd be happy if it were woven into the med/surg throughout the program as opposed to an entire class of h-e- double hockey stick.

GAH! That class was awful! I felt like I never slept. LOL.

Our med surg courses have titles like Health Concepts, Adult Nursing, etc. They're not actually called "med surg".

We had a pharm class first semester and in subsequent semesters, its been integrated into the curriculum of our other courses.

Our med surg is called Adult I and Adult II as well.

We did have separate pharm and patho classes, but I know lots of programs which integrate both of those right into whatever "subject" you're in (med surg, ob, psych, etc).

Our local community college I plan to attend weaves pharmacology in with the general nursing classes. There is a seperate, non required but 'encouraged' pharmacology class you can take on your own prior to entry.

I don't have any classes called "med/surg." I had a course called foundations for nurses, another called acute care, and one coming next year called complex care that focus almost solely on nurse-oriented interventions. There is very little pharm, almost no assessment, and nearly no patho mentioned in them. We're expected to know and integrate from prereqs and coreqs.

We have separate pathophysiology, pharmacology, health assessment, psychiatric and mental health, geriatrics, OB/Peds, community/public health courses to fill in the gaps as well as some other nurse-prefix time wasters.

The associate degree nurses here at my school have two courses called "med/surg," but that's all they get beyond one called maternal health and another called mental health and everything else is integrated into those seven credit hour courses.

If your program is accreditted it's got all it needs to have to get the job done.

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