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[tanu80]

Hi, I am starting the IRCON at deakins university and am so excited. Can anybody tell me what to expect there. Thank you.

[ceridwyn]

ok I'll take this one,....I am tired and had a hard day at work today.....what the!! is an IRCON and what do you expect to find at Deakin? Deakin - Geelong or Deaking Burwood? Burwood has mmm I dunno, buildings, people, cars, not much carparking, busy roads , traffic lights- to go into Deakin ahh let me see...has signs up everywhere saying Deakin University, last time I went past there were a few flags...lots of those architect designed buildings with the alphabet you know A or B or C or D on different buildings...mmmmwhat else Look up Deakin on the website and go to campus map, think they even have a virtual tour

Sorry to sound silly but Iam not sure what you expect to see from what other universities are to any other country or city in the world.....mmmmm not on a hillside,, on flat land OOOO Deakin Burwood has trams going past it, thats novel for Melbourne only, trams being a big part of public transport

BTW being excepted into a program mean you have past IELTS at 7? just out of interest?

[talaxandra]

Hi tanu80 - welcome to allnurses and Australia :)

I haven't studied or worked at either Deakin campus so I cna't tell you much about what they're like and, like tired ceridwyn (slack therefore cut for excepted and past!), I don't know what IRCON but I imagine it's a transition to Australian registration program. If that's right then I imagine it won't be easy but it won't be impossible, either.

In the past decade I've worked with nurses from dozens of other countries (off the top of my head: Wales, Scotland, England, Ireland, Eire, Poland, Yugoslavia, Sweden, Croatia, Germany, Canada, Hong Kong and mainland China, Korea, Vietnam, Japan, the Phillipines, Malaysia, South Africa, New Zealand and Tasmania), who've all made it through the lengthy registration process successfully. Good luck! (And apologies if that's not what IRCON is)

[tanu80]

Hi Talaxandra, thx for the reply, IRCON means initial registration course for overseas nurses.

[Silverdragon102, BSN]

There is a couple of threads in the International forum discussing courses like this in Australia and you may find a few already doing them

[ceridwyn]

Days off Yay!!! With all due respects, Tasmanians will love to be considered from overseas

I have a feeling their process is not quite sooo long as Tasmania is another state or even from New Zealand that is not really a 'proper overseas country'" so to speak, due to the Tasman treaty, when it comes to recognition. :jester:Due to english being their language of study. (sometimes wonder)

We all know in the past health practitioners from countries where english is second language, sometimes difficult to communicate effectively (We cannot take verbal phone orders these days due to this), doctors and nurses, to give the best care for our clients. I do applaud the latest directive that the Ielts test must be passed at 7.0 before any study or registration can be considered and therefore the process can be much longer at times for some.

I would expect the same in a non-english speaking country for myself. I think at times health professionals from overseas just see it as red tape and a barrier and long process that is just there for the sake of it, due to our past racist policies, but it is our patients/ clients that suffer if effective communication and care (the Australian way). If we cannot communicate, our best practice suffers.

But when communication is not a problem, it is great to have a workforce that is so multicultural as we do need lots of health professionals here and it is fun everyday learning something new about people and their culture, that is what make Australia greeeaaaat. BTW I go to Deakin for post grad.

[talaxandra]

I'm glad you picked up my little Tassie joke, ceridwyn :)

I agree that the process of registration for overseas trained nurses must seem lengthy and difficult, and that it's essential. It's also not unique - friends have found the process of UK registration, particularly having to sit English language tests, frustrating, even more so because they're native speakers. But they accepted that the process, including UK-based compulsory education, was part of the deal. The only difference is that, as far as I know, Australia doesn't waive those requirements for overseas-trained nurses who hold an Australian passport.

[ceridwyn]

I can get a British passport, if I take up citizenship, I have right to abode at the moment,....but still must go through all the onp stuff...which I have been told for Australian/NZ nurses is a couple of weeks being lectured in OH&S, NHS and a few other housekeeping thingies because I am not EU or UCCK trained nurse, oooh yes and get a 7 in IELTS should be interesting if I decide to proceed.

I have heard english speakers have trouble with it, I have been told by recruiters an english nurse over here has tried 3 times.....apparently its a technique issue...do not sweat the small stuff. , so it it does make you wonder how speakers of non-english speaking coountries ever get english good enough to pass the IELTS,mmmmm:uhoh3:

[talaxandra]

One of my friends was indignant that she failed a section, which was cause for much hilarity.

I sometimes feel like it's a waste that I don't want to work in the UK, as I'm a citizen (passport and everything!) but I'm quite happy here.

[ceridwyn]

Yeah, don't know if I will bother.....still cannot decide what speciality I would like to pursue, midwifery is starting to be interesting but at my late time in life, do not know if the back will hold up to it, then I thought theatre might be ok.....dunno!!