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Did anyone attend the RN program at NCCC?

I am planning on attending the RN program at NCCC in Fall 2008, has anyone gone through it? Were the profs good? How was your clinical experience? I have known a few people that went through nursing school (in general not necessarily there) and they say it was h*ll, what did you think? I am also a little worried about the drop out rate, I hear it is very high, can anyone tell me why students tend to drop out? I am a little nervous since I am a little older than probably most the students that I will attend with but that isn't what is bothering me, it is more of the fear of failure I guess or being unable to practice safely (which they clearly state will get me booted if I am unsafe). I have spoken with a person there who was helpful but I was too nervous to ask to many questions without truly being a student in the program.

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very tough program I started there in the Rn program did 2 semesters went to there LPN program and passed then went to another college GCC for my RN ,NCCC start 200 students only like 60-70 graduate so good luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do it the right way and go for your BSN. Molloy is an excellent school and is relatively inexpensive compare to other schools such as Adelphi. Plus there is no waiting list to get into the nursing program. You will be more marketable and respected with a BSN than with an Associate Degree.

Do it the right way and go for your BSN. Molloy is an excellent school and is relatively inexpensive compare to other schools such as Adelphi. Plus there is no waiting list to get into the nursing program. You will be more marketable and respected with a BSN than with an Associate Degree.

with a NY RN degree associates you are just as markeable, and molloy is near ny city where nccc near niagara falls ny so it is over 400 miles away

In NYC hospitals such as Cornell, and NYP, they will only accept nurses with a BSN.

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Do it the right way and go for your BSN. Molloy is an excellent school and is relatively inexpensive compare to other schools such as Adelphi. Plus there is no waiting list to get into the nursing program. You will be more marketable and respected with a BSN than with an Associate Degree.

In NYC hospitals such as Cornell, and NYP, they will only accept nurses with a BSN.

The OP was asking about a specific program in her part of the state. Obviously, she's doing "it the right way" for her.

And isn't it sad that the facilities you mention lose out by not hiring talented RN's with ADN's and diplomas? That hardly speaks to their respectability or marketability, does it?

But I'm awfully glad your program was "the right" one for you.

Best of luck.

I don't understand why someone would "barge" into a forum and say something like that on their very first post. :uhoh3: Maybe they didn't mean to start anything but they sound like a troll.

It may be true that a handful of hospitals will only hire BSN but there are tons of hospitals in NYC that do hire ADN's and *gasp* even LPN's. I don't understand what all the snobbery is about in regards to posters continually mentioning the same hospitals (NYP, Columbia, and Mt. Sinai). So what if those hospitals only hire BSN they aren't the only places to work at.

Also, Molly isn't all that cheap @ $8,280.00 for 12 to 16 credits per semester. A freshman starting the BSN program at Molly will spend $66,240 for their education and this does not include fees, books, housing etc. If a person does not qualify for financial aid because they or their parents make too much or it's a second degree than getting an ADN from a community college makes way more sense than coming out of college with tons of debt.

I don't know of any hospitals in NYC that hire AD nurses. On Long Island, yes they will hire a nurse with a 2 year degree. Sorry if I offended anybody but in order to move up the clinical ladder and to advance in the nursing profession one must continue their education. If you think about it, what other profession only requires a 2 year degree. Most states require a 4 year degree. I know upstate is a whole different world as far as socioeconomic background. Only ignorance disputes pursuing education.

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i don't know of any hospitals in nyc that hire ad nurses.

well, a little research on your part will show you that many nyc hospitals hire rn's with all sorts of educational backgrounds. whether or not the rn has an ad, diploma or bsn is generally irrelevant. these very same hospitals will also help pay the tuition for their rn staff members who wish to pursue higher education. it's a win-win.

sorry if i offended anybody but in order to move up the clinical ladder and to advance in the nursing profession one must continue their education.

you did offend. no one here is disputing the value of continuing one's education. what's offensive is your blanket assertion that only the bsn is acceptable in order to work as an rn at the bedside. no one said anywhere that anybody was going to stop their education. there certainly is nothing wrong with an rn with an ad who wants to work as an rn while pursuing a bsn. most people will agree that the bsn or higher is recommended for those in leadership, management or educational positions. but that wasn't your argument, was it? you said something about "doing it the right way". rather arrogant, isn't it? let's assume that the op knows what's right for her, and you don't.

i know upstate is a whole different world as far as socioeconomic background. only ignorance disputes pursuing education.

i certainly hope you didn't intend to insult the many rns in upstate ny, as the above statement reads. i cannot imagine what the socio-economic status of upstate ny has to do with ignorance and higher education. we know there are educationally challenged people in the boroughs, too..

The OP didn't ask anyone what they thought about her choices. She merely asked if anyone who attended NCCC had any information for her. So why are you hi-jacking her thread?

Also, here we go again with this ADN vs. BSN debate! :uhoh3: It's so old and tired already. Who told the OP to not pursue a BSN? I certainly never said it all I said was that there may be reasons why a person wouldn't choose to go the BSN route.

Finally, if NO NYC hospital hires ADNs then why are there still tons of schools that offer ADN education?

What is there some sort of scam going on at the CUNY and SUNY 2 year schools? Are you telling me that they are graduating all of these ADN's who can't get hired by any hospital within the 5 boroughs that make up NYC?

I don't know of any hospitals in NYC that hire AD nurses. On Long Island, yes they will hire a nurse with a 2 year degree. Sorry if I offended anybody but in order to move up the clinical ladder and to advance in the nursing profession one must continue their education. If you think about it, what other profession only requires a 2 year degree. Most states require a 4 year degree. I know upstate is a whole different world as far as socioeconomic background. Only ignorance disputes pursuing education.

Nobody said she wouldn't continue her education. I personally am offended by your posts. I am currently attending Nassau Community College for my nursing degree and I can tell you that the nurses coming out of that school are exceptionally trained and are VERY marketable. And in my case, I am definitely going to continue my education but I chose to get my Associate's degree first because I cannot afford to pay $66,000.00 for my degree, nor do I want to be in tremendous debt, by the time I graduate. So for me Community College was the way to go. Then once I work at a hospital I can use the tuition reimbursement programs to continue with my BSN. Just because one way is the "right way" for you, does not mean it is the "right way" for everyone. And staff nurses with ADN's are just as qualified as nurses with BSN's... it is when you want to move up in rank that you need to have different degrees so as a start, an ADN is perfectly fine.

Please name a few of the hospitals in NYC that hire AD nurses. I'm not talking about Queens or Bklyn.

Please name a few of the hospitals in NYC that hire AD nurses. I'm not talking about Queens or Bklyn.

Being that I'm not interested in working in NYC, I don't have much info on this. I'm from the Queens area and I will be looking to work either in Queens or Nassau County, LI.

But just to answer your question, here are a few hospitals in Manhattan that hire RNs with an ADN (because Queens and Brooklyn are part of NYC):

  • Memorial Sloan Kettering
  • Mount Sinai - they even offer an onsite BSN program offered by NYU! (which they pay for!) or 16 credit reimbursement for various other universities.
  • Hospital for Joint Diseases
  • Lennox Hill Hospital - (with 18 credit/year tuition reimbursement)

And that is just some of them. Most hospitals will hire with an ADN... and they will pay for you to continue on to your BSN. As a matter of fact, they encourage it. Which is why for me it is a smart choice to get my RN degree in 2 years as opposed to 4, start working and making at least $65K a year, then go to school for 1 more year and have my BSN. Also, as a plus, I'll have my BSN in 3 years instead of 4 and all without having any debt at the end of it all. It just wasn't practical for me to go to a BSN school. I'm not saying going straight into a BSN is wrong, it just wasn't the right choice for me. And at the level of staff nurse, an ADN and a BSN really have no major difference. Why do you think the differential for a staff nurse with a BSN is only $0.50/hour??? Now when you want to move up the ladder, that's another story.

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