For everyone who has taken orgranic chemistry, I was wondering if you guys had to take General Chemistry I, General Chemistry II, and then Organic Chemistry? I've been noticing that there is a chemistry pathway for the "health professions" and then the pathway for science majors/premeds, and the only way to get to o-chem at my university is by taking the science major route. My BSN degree only requires chem for the health professions, which I've already taken, so now I think I'm going to have to backtrack and take the science major route as I realized this too late:( Is this common for everyone else or is there another alternative to get to o-chem? Also, did you guys take all the labs that accompany all those chemistry classes? Thanks for any advice!

Iceman

hi,

it's the same way at my school. You need the chemistry for math and science majors or the permission of the chairperson. Maybe you could meet with the head of the chemistry department and see if they will make an exception for you. Maybe they can let you test out or determine if you are prepared enough and just let you take the class.

If not, you could always try to find a class online that would accept the classes you already took or see if any other schools in your area would let you take o-chem with them.

I've always wondered why a BSN wasn't considered a "science major," and why a "health professional" shouldn't have to take challenging science courses...

MB37,

Yeah that is a good point. Now I'm caught up in trying to figure out how to squeeze in these chemistry courses. I found a community college near my house that offers General Chemistry I in the first 5 weeks of summer and General Chemistry II in the second 5 weeks of summer, so I will be able to knock them both out during one summer without delaying my graduation in my BSN program. Then I'll find a way to take O-Chem while I'm working as a RN gaining the experience to apply to CRNA school. It's all good as these are just a few more loops to climb through to get to my dream. I'm definitely not going to let a couple of classes get in the way of my families bright future!

Question....why are you taking o-chem? I have taken it, and yes, I had to take gen chem first...but it was not required at any school I applied to for CRNA. Are you taking it to just be more prepared or is there a program u r applying to that requires it?

Neurogeek,

There are a couple of schools (Missouri State, Barnes-Jewish) that I'm interested in that do require at least 3 credit hours in o-chem. Plus, I believe that it will better prepare me and also allow me to stand out from other applicants, since filling seats in CRNA schools is so competitive. Now I just have to make sure that I do well in the classes! Did you think that having o-chem helped you out at all in regards to preparation for school or the admissions process itself? Take care :)

Does it matter where you take this course from (community college or university)?

Kittyn,

It shouldn't really matter as long as you do well in the class, like getting an A :)

UT Houston requires o. chem or biochem. Is o.chem harder than biochem? Also TWU requires a chem, when I called about what type of chem, they sd any type fo chem

Question....why are you taking o-chem? I have taken it, and yes, I had to take gen chem first...but it was not required at any school I applied to for CRNA. Are you taking it to just be more prepared or is there a program u r applying to that requires it?

I've always wondered why a BSN wasn't considered a "science major," and why a "health professional" shouldn't have to take challenging science courses...

because a BSN has nearly nothing in common with more mainstream science majors.

math- minimal, you may have even tested out of the requirement

inorganic chemistry- one class usually

physics- almost universally not required

stats- one class

organic chemistry- not required at all

biochem- usually not required for BSN

I think it is safe to say that a BSN is not a science major.

UT Houston requires o. chem or biochem. Is o.chem harder than biochem? Also TWU requires a chem, when I called about what type of chem, they sd any type fo chem

Biochemistry is harder than organic chemistry. Organic chemistry is the prerequisite course for biochemistry. Personally, I only took the first half of organic and that class is already hard enough! :chuckle

That was my point - I don't understand why we don't have to take actual science courses to earn a bachelor's of SCIENCE in nursing. And yes, that's what my program required - general chem, bio 101, microbio, intro stats, an online A&P without a lab, and college algebra. There was a lot of memorizing involved, but I can't say that I actually had to learn all that much to get As in all of them (and test out of algebra).

for everyone who has taken orgranic chemistry, i was wondering if you guys had to take general chemistry i, general chemistry ii, and then organic chemistry? i've been noticing that there is a chemistry pathway for the "health professions" and then the pathway for science majors/premeds, and the only way to get to o-chem at my university is by taking the science major route. my bsn degree only requires chem for the health professions, which i've already taken, so now i think i'm going to have to backtrack and take the science major route as i realized this too late:( is this common for everyone else or is there another alternative to get to o-chem? also, did you guys take all the labs that accompany all those chemistry classes? thanks for any advice!

iceman

hey iceman,

just a thought...but i know some people are taking this class at university of new england.

http://distance.une.edu/organic/

they offer organic chem i, o chem ii, and biochem. they require one semester of college level chem to get in. they are online and i think they will work for most crna programs. i also think these are completely self paced, with rolling start dates, so you get one or two classes done quickly if you are motivated.

here's the reply i got when i inquired about this course:

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yes, the couse can be completed in less than 15 weeks. i've had students, who've devoted full time to it, do it in about 8 weeks. since the course is essentially self-paced, you can proceed at whatever speed you like. it's good that you're taking a basic chemistry course since i require one as a prerequisite. you need not apply to the university to register for the course. the course is very appropriate for someone applying to nurse anesthesia school. in fact, most of my students are taking the course to apply to nurse anesthesia or pa school. virtually all nurse anesthesia programs will accept the course. however, in the event that there are some schools that won't accept the credits, i caution all of my prospective students to first check with someone in authority in the admissions office of the schools to which they plan to apply to make sure they will accept the credits. this avoids any unpleasant surprises in the future.

if you do decide to register, the easiest way to do so is to call either of my two assistants, angela morse, at 207-602-2494 or paula drinkwater at 207-602-2446. they can register you right over the phone. sometimes they're away from their desks but both have voice mail; leave a message and they'll get back to you. let me know if you have further questions. in the meantime, thanks for your interest in our distance education program.

regards,

dave manyan

david r. manyan, ph.d

associate dean of basic sciences

college of osteopathic medicine

11 hills beach road

biddeford, maine 04005

voice: 207-602-2336

fax: 207-602-5931

[email protected]

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i have personally e-mailed a few people that took the bio chem class and it is not an easy course. very challenging and a lot of work. with the final test as the only grade.

i don't think these are your typical push over online classes.

hope this helps.