Another prenursing student I met on another nursing site says she was able to bypass the usual A&P dissections because of an "ethical objection" (that's how she put it) to dissections (animal and cadaver alike). She was able to complete the dissections using computer programs. Anyone heard of this?

Another prenursing student I met on another nursing site says she was able to bypass the usual A&P dissections because of an "ethical objection" (that's how she put it) to dissections (animal and cadaver alike). She was able to complete the dissections using computer programs. Anyone heard of this?

I have never heard of it, but you have a choice to take the class or not.

I can understand the ethical objection to animals, they don't volunteer. Human cadavers though, are volunteers, they signed up for that exact thing.

I thought it was interesting that some schools even offer the lab sections of A&P online, using computer programs. It doesn't really seem fair to those of us who are actually dissecting (it's not my favorite part of the course, to say the least, but you do what you have to do, i suppose!)! Have any of you taken A&P online?

I took them in a classroom but we didn't disect anything, thank goodness.

Wow! I thought the ol' fetal pigs and sheep eyes were status quo! Lucky you! *winces at thought of formaldehyde smell*

I made it through ANP 101 & 102 and Advanced Human Physiology with nary a mention of dissecting. We basically just looked at a few plastic models, some microscope slides, and color pictures in the textbook.

It was my understanding that many schools are now moving towards using the computer programs, not just for ethical reasons but for financial ones. Maybe that's not true; it is just what I was told and it made sense to me at the time.

When I went to school, there was no such thing as computer simulated dissection. Nor, do I believe, was "ethical objection" accepted in lieu of completing the assigned dissections. If you objected, you didn't take the course and you were out of the program.

I think the hands on approach, as unpleasant as it is, offers the most in depth learning experience.

It was my understanding that many schools are now moving towards using the computer programs, not just for ethical reasons but for financial ones. Maybe that's not true; it is just what I was told and it made sense to me at the time.

When I went to school, there was no such thing as computer simulated dissection. Nor, do I believe, was "ethical objection" accepted in lieu of completing the assigned dissections. If you objected, you didn't take the course and you were out of the program.

I think the hands on approach, as unpleasant as it is, offers the most in depth learning experience.

we only did a cat in AP1 for muscles, we had a cadavar though and I found that experience invaluable. Could have done without the cat i still don't know where all the muscles are on that thing, and I got an A.

Thru out high school and college I refused to disect due to moral issues with disection. This has never created a issue for me. The point that I make to them is that i went to school to be a nurse not a surgeon, I have no need to know what the inside of a body looks like. I am fully able to learn anatomy from a book while not killing innocent animals for the cause, Nor do i feel the need for the person to be disected so anyone but a surgeon can learn about anatomy.

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I grew up on a farm so I obviously have no issues with carving up animals, but we dont' get entire bodies, we jsut get the heart and lungs, an eye and a knee joint from a sheep - all from the local butchers. I havent' heard of any nursing schools in New Zealand where they get to disect humans. That's more in the med schools.

Though, I'd love to have a go at that.

I grew up on a farm so I obviously have no issues with carving up animals, but we dont' get entire bodies, we jsut get the heart and lungs, an eye and a knee joint from a sheep - all from the local butchers. I havent' heard of any nursing schools in New Zealand where they get to disect humans. That's more in the med schools.

Though, I'd love to have a go at that.

I was surprised and actually avoided AP for a while, we do it at my small CC. It has been the best experience ever! We didn't do much the first semester but got into much more detail and really brings things together for you. I loved it, the cadaver was always available to us, we had unlimited access, it was really a wonderful experience.

My A&P II class dissected a cat. I understood that it was a great learning opportunity. However, we were also informed on how the cats were acquired by the company who sells them, and I couldn't do it. (I don't want to go into the details and risk trouble.) And as you can see from my name and picture, I have a soft spot for cats! I skipped all labs concerning the cat and simply studied pictures from my book and the web. Made A's. Lab attendance wasn't recorded, lucky for me.

We did have a cadaver for A&P I and II and that was an amazing experience. I was okay with that since they volunteered to donate their body for science.

I think it is great if a college offers the computer simulation. But for myself, I wouldn't have learned as much that way. We did a cat in AP1 and then used an already dissected cat for AP2.

There were 10 year old cadevers which were kinda icky d/t age. But it made me wish that I actually had the opportunity to dissect a human body. I like having a picture in my head about how everything works and where it is in living color.

I think it is an honor to learn from anything that was once living.