x3??

[onduty23]

when i get ask to do cardiac enzymes x3 and stool for occult blood it get confused. is it meaning to get three samples right then or over time such as one sample for three days. help me understand the collection . is it all three samples get colllected at once

[RNsRWe, ASN, RN]

when i get ask to do cardiac enzymes x3 and stool for occult blood it get confused. is it meaning to get three samples right then or over time such as one sample for three days. help me understand the collection . is it all three samples get colllected at once

Stool OB, or guiac stools "x3" means that for the next three poops, you get a sample from each. Three in total, with results recorded for each. There'd be no point in collecting three samples at once; the point is to see if/when blood shows up in the stool.

Don't know about the cardiac enzymes.

[TonyaKayRN]

How I interpret the order is cardiac enzymes x3, which mean you will draw trop,ck,ckmb q8 hr (x3). I interpret the stool order is a 1 time spec. It does not say x3 for the stools, does it?

[RNsRWe, ASN, RN]

How I interpret the order is cardiac enzymes x3, which mean you will draw trop,ck,ckmb q8 hr (x3). I interpret the stool order is a 1 time spec. It does not say x3 for the stools, does it?

On our unit, it'd be unusual to see a guiac order (or OB stool order) for one specimen...they say guiac times three. You'd actually get two samples from one stool--if possible a bit from each part--then that constitutes one sample. Repeat two more times, on subsequent stools, for a pattern.

[loricatus]

How I interpret the order is cardiac enzymes x3, which mean you will draw trop,ck,ckmb q8 hr (x3). I interpret the stool order is a 1 time spec. It does not say x3 for the stools, does it?

:yeahthat:

The reason for the 3 draws for CE q 8h apart is to see if there are changes in any of the 3 CE values during a 24h period. Each of the 3 CE markers has a different peak (time wise) if there is damage to the myocardium. Changes in values, either up or down, can help determine the time &/or degree of damage to the heart muscle. Also, it takes time for the CE to show up in the blood-so, if the MI has just started, you might not see any + result on the first draw; but, the second draw 8 hours later will be +.

[TonyaKayRN]

I agree IF the order says X3! However, in the initial post, it did not specify X3 did it?

On our unit, it'd be unusual to see a guiac order (or OB stool order) for one specimen...they say guiac times three.

[onduty23]

sorry i left times 3 part out. but i meant it. thanks all for filling in my gaps i appreciate it

[veronica butterfly, ADN, RN]

when i get ask to do cardiac enzymes x3 and stool for occult blood it get confused. is it meaning to get three samples right then or over time such as one sample for three days. help me understand the collection . is it all three samples get colllected at once

occult blood--collect the next three stools.

cardiac enzymes--for troponins, they are drawn every six hours x 3.