I have recently switched from NICU nursing to peds CICU. I've only been on the new unit a few days but am having a hard time wrapping my head around differences in ventilations for some reason. In the NICU we primarily used pressure support/pressure control ventilation, regardless of infant size. In the CICU they use a variety of modes but so far the one i've experienced most is pressure regulated/volume control. Both the patients this was used on were infants, and the cicu is also a unit fill with infants, even some older preemies. I understand that pressure ventilation sets a pressure to deliver, the volume varies depending on the compliancy of the lungs, so if the lungs are stiff we need to increase pressures. On the volume ventilation the pressure varies, delivering a set volume, what I don't understand are the pro's/con's of each type, why does one unit filled with infants choose pressure, and another unit filled with infants choose volume? I am planning next time I am there to track down an RT (all our RT's work in both CICU/PICU/NICU so they will be good to talk to) to explain it better, but in the meantime I was wondering what others opinions are. It is also interesting to me that the little guy I had in the CICU we extubated, but not until we got him down to a rate of 8...8! that seems crazy to me where in the NICU we would extubate from a rate of 18 the same sized patient (he was an ex 33 wkr, only 2.9kg), they also told me that once a rate creeped up to the 40's they would start HFOV (this is also for infants, i'm not sure what the parameters are for bigger kids yet) while in the nicu we don't go to HFOV until a rate of 60ish (obviously not looking at any other numbers here at the moment), and i'm not talking just the teeny tiny's here either, that includes the full termer and beyond.
This one kiddo we were taking care of was on very high vent settings I was told...he was 5kg, 5mo old. PRVC ventillation, Rate of 30, PEEP of 12 (ok i'll agree thats a lot of peep), Volume of 35 with a fluctuating PIP between 22-24. I guess in my head I keep trying to turn those numbers into PCPS ventilation and i'm not seeing it as "high" vent settings, well aside from the peep. Ugh! I finally gt pretty solid understanding the ventillation and vents we used in the NICU, now I have to start all over!
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I have recently switched from NICU nursing to peds CICU. I've only been on the new unit a few days but am having a hard time wrapping my head around differences in ventilations for some reason. In the NICU we primarily used pressure support/pressure control ventilation, regardless of infant size. In the CICU they use a variety of modes but so far the one i've experienced most is pressure regulated/volume control. Both the patients this was used on were infants, and the cicu is also a unit fill with infants, even some older preemies. I understand that pressure ventilation sets a pressure to deliver, the volume varies depending on the compliancy of the lungs, so if the lungs are stiff we need to increase pressures. On the volume ventilation the pressure varies, delivering a set volume, what I don't understand are the pro's/con's of each type, why does one unit filled with infants choose pressure, and another unit filled with infants choose volume? I am planning next time I am there to track down an RT (all our RT's work in both CICU/PICU/NICU so they will be good to talk to) to explain it better, but in the meantime I was wondering what others opinions are. It is also interesting to me that the little guy I had in the CICU we extubated, but not until we got him down to a rate of 8...8! that seems crazy to me where in the NICU we would extubate from a rate of 18 the same sized patient (he was an ex 33 wkr, only 2.9kg), they also told me that once a rate creeped up to the 40's they would start HFOV (this is also for infants, i'm not sure what the parameters are for bigger kids yet) while in the nicu we don't go to HFOV until a rate of 60ish (obviously not looking at any other numbers here at the moment), and i'm not talking just the teeny tiny's here either, that includes the full termer and beyond.
This one kiddo we were taking care of was on very high vent settings I was told...he was 5kg, 5mo old. PRVC ventillation, Rate of 30, PEEP of 12 (ok i'll agree thats a lot of peep), Volume of 35 with a fluctuating PIP between 22-24. I guess in my head I keep trying to turn those numbers into PCPS ventilation and i'm not seeing it as "high" vent settings, well aside from the peep. Ugh! I finally gt pretty solid understanding the ventillation and vents we used in the NICU, now I have to start all over!