TachyNurseGuy

Thank you! Ill check it out

Any NP students out there that have had to purchase a white lab coat? So far, my clinical instructors have cared less but I'm thinking I still may need one as I have a few more to go. My questions are...which length did you buy, where did you get it and are you happy with the quality. Thanks for any info you can provide!

Awesome! Congrats!!!

Yes, just finished assessment & start clinicals june 1st. its very overwhelming! I read & study every day without fail & Feel quite behind. So yep.. normal

Im away from home but if you PM me, ill send you the APA software info i use.. it has worked quite well for me. DQ = discussion question. You post one a week, then respond to two or more students with citations on separate days. Its an effort to create scholarly discussions 😝. series of hoops to jump through... until the NP courses, then please give it all you got 😊

I believe I will continue to think your simply another case of a nurse who wishes to close the gate behind him, in order to both protect his self inflated position and attempt to make others feel less worthy. I would question any other motives behind your actions based on your statements. You seem to take a bit of joy in both pontificating on this issue as one who is above it and holds some very limited power over students. Frankly it comes off as bullying behavior and I'm sure you will continue to find others taking it personally if you continue.

sxyreesa. The start of the program is all nursing theory, writing papers on theory and practice, as well as writing and participating in discussions. Really no way to prepare aside from becoming familiar with word & purchasing a decent apa program linked to word. other than that just try and work one week ahead as stuff happens, but never submit work before Monday. Generally all papers are due Sundays and DQs are due Wednesdays. quizzes are also due sundays... ensure you make time to do it all. When you get to the actual NP classes things will change quite a bit & become much more challenging. I recommend taking patho, pharm & assessment one at a time to ensure you actually have time to do both the reading & the coursework. clinicals start after that, so you will want to be ready. always feel free to contact me. cheers & good luck! B.

I don't advocate going to NP school without RN experience..heck I personally placed myself in a variety of fairly bad, and low paying jobs just to gain a more well rounded background in prep for NP school. If I were king, all NP's would have a minimum of 4 years experience as an RN. That being said, we (as NP's) are going to be mid-level providers, who are competing with PA's for jobs. I don't agree with this designation either, but that's how it is and that's how it will remain for a while. Lets review the PA's base education requirements. To enter PA school you generally need a baccalaureate degree, similar pre-reqs to NP school, and something like 1000 hours of clinical experience. This experience can vary, and often has very little to do with caring for sick people, however A CNA position in an LTC facility would do nicely as an example. Then PA school is two years long, with a similar amount of clinical hours, however over a broader discipline base as PA's are not constrained to a specialty. I have several family members and friends who are PA's. They had no clinical experience before PA school, and can work in essentially ANY setting after licensure. I don't agree with this either..but that does not change the fact that NP's and PA's are seen as similar practices. Keep in mind that we as a discipline are competing with PA's for positions when discussing this mess. I think its reasonable to argue that an NP with NO experience, is theoretically better prepared to see a limited patient base (ACNP, FNP AGNP) than a PA is prepared to see an unlimited patient base. Again...I dont agree with this issue, but I do understand that nursing is in competition with PA's as midlevel providers, and we as nurses should keep this in mind when arguing (what we do best ). Also keep in mind that Physicians can come from just about any hole in the wall medical school, from any developing country and practice in the US. IMO, our ideals as nurses are great, but I wonder if they will hold up to market economics.

PS: any students who is in NP school should probably submit this conversation as a DQ post and align it with the ANA's position on contributing toward the profession. Focker out! 😊

Yes, Im constantly hearing the "walk in our shoes argument", its very helpful to students. Walden requires experience, so no that is not the case with my own school anyhow. I think when I am walking in "your" shoes, I will try and remember not to repeat those words to NP students who are seeking education & help. I somehow managed not to do this as an RN or a EMT, so I have a feeling its possible. Nurses... lets continue to circle the wagons & shoot inward..its worked so well for us in the past. I gotta get back to doing my HW at my sub-par school now, so I can become a sub par NP who did not merit educational opportunities :-) Fellow students, Ill send you the info requested for advanced prep.

Yes... its sadly getting hard for me to disagree with the PA thing. Im not a fan, but I can cert see the benefits

How do we get NP preceptors if they are unwilling to take us, because they feel students of thier own discipline are poor and the educational system for APNs in also poor? This leaves us with MD's, DO's & PA's or am I missing something?

Also, how does the time and sacrifice differ from my work in precepting critical care nurses and ER nurses? Why is it that my MD preceptors do not share this idea that students reflect their own practice?

I'm with Walden..I have a 4.0 and start clinicals next month. Does this qualify as another poor program that does not supply preceptors?

Actually many brick and mortar schools do not provide clinical preceptors either; although I'm unsure, from what I've heard I believe this is more the norm than not. In my home state (AZ) GCU, U0fP and NAU do not for sure. I spent a LOT of time finding/attempting to find preceptors. Sadly most NP's did not reply and the few that did were unable for various reasons. I have one NP preceptor so far, that Advanced Prep (paid service that pays NP's found)..the rest are physicians. The MD's for the most part were much more accommodating and ready (without reservations) to accept students. The Physicians are also doing it gratus. I'm eating truck loads of crow for all the crap I have talked about Doctors these days... That last bit is the most disturbing and discouraging to me (the APN's who dont take students)....I'm a nurse and I believe in what we do. Frankly, I think in general we have a noble profession and less economically driven than the medical discipline. But the way we treat students (NP students, RN students...Students) is somewhat appalling. When I became an RN, I was told that part of this was agreeing to teach, both patients and students. We teach students as part of our code of conduct and in efforts to carry forward our discipline. As an RN, I personally have done this and I will do it as an NP as well. Newboy, there are multiple services popping up like Advanced Prep, that pay preceptors for services; if this is what it takes then do it, but again...I think we have to ask ourselves, do we want respect for our discipline? The majority of students that make it as far as clinicals in an accredited NP program will pass boards at some point, so they will be your peers whether you like it or not. If you agree with this, then how would you like your peers to be educated? If you don't like the what you are seeing, this is the time to change it. Just my 0.02 and if I survive another year...contact me if you need an FNP preceptor in AZ and I will help you.