Weebils-Wobble

So are Supreme Court appointees, declarations of war, and funding for the wars so declared. .....You can't pick which ones you want to be responsible for depending of pulic opinion polls afterwards. They are all accountable collectively.

Thanks for the link, Since I have more school to do, an age waiver is the thing. Everything I've seen says that the Guard can only waive up to 35 y/o for a commission. A warrant officer goes up to 46(I'm 44)but you must complete WOCS before 46. I wouldn't be offered a commission until completing the BSN. That's at least 3 years from my credits now if I could get an online ADN. If there were such thing as an online ADN that would take my first semester for credit, I could get that done. All one has to do for the program is get accepted to an RN-BSN with I have plenty of service left, my APFT scores are good(220s right now), I have some awards, My chain would write glorius LORs and I have the mental capacity to endure an accelerated program. The fact that the age waiver would be difficult to count on would make it impractical I think.

Kevin, Bob, Excellent response to political terrorism. Congress is ultimately responsible for funding our military anyway. If the troops don't have body armor or anything else, blame the in-fighting in Congress to try to weasel pork onto the bill. VA spending was increased but the reorganization of appropriations were used to attack the President. I would not be surprised at all if the reorganization of spending was part of concessions to those same people that are using the changes to attack him. I'm an Army National Guard medic. I have never paid for a meal, but I have seen that the commissioned officers have to. It's hilarious to see the looks on thier faces when they have to pay $7 for powdered eggs :chuckle but of course, that's because they draw BAS all the time. When we're in the field, they have few choices but they do have a choice. As an enlisted soldier, I am ordered to sign for meals. The command justifies the resupply by my participation. I get an MRE in the chow line so that no matter what my mission is for the day, I will get fed. If we are not dismissed because some tasks need to be completed, my command has a meal brought in from outside. If my command doesn't have the money, my platoon leader sees to it. If my platoon leader can't get it done we suck it up and complete the mission. Responsibility always starts at the top, but if it falls all the way to me it is my duty to accept it. In other words, our service to our country takes precedence over our country's service to us(insert JFK quote). The Army National Guard is a different animal. Funding is MUCH LESS but the basics are provided somehow. I train alot on my own. I don't even get paid for half of the hours I put in. It's understood that I take care of dental because the paperwork is lethaly slow. I have health insurance and never intend to go to the VA ever. If I'm injured in the line of duty, I know that it will be paid for if the paperwork doesn't prove fatal first. I carry life and disability insurance on myself. These plans are better than what a civilian could get because the Guard made the opportunity available. I buy first aid items everytime I'm in the store. I purchase uniforms and field gear. I bought an AR-15, which is the legal version of the M16, so I could train and become proficient with it. I don't have to do any of that. My command supplies the basics promptly. There is always some kind of budget that they have to live with but they provide me what they can. I have taken the initiative to do all that I can in return. I have shipped injured soldiers out to base hospitals and have never heard of one of them paying for anything related to it. I don't know many soldiers that ever buy anything with personal money but the ones that do complain much less than the ones that don't...uhmm? If a soldier fails to get all thier gear supplied before a mission, they are reassigned. The Guard takes care of us somehow. It depends on whom the responsibility falls to and if that person accepts it. The first people to get that responsibility are in Congress.

I guess I had the wrong impression. I thought I had a straight-forward question. I tried to not put anything too controversial in it but wanted to provide a little background information. The only one that posted did so because they took exception to a comment. With all the views of my thread with no responses, I just figured I was getting the silent treatment. Military nurses gotta know the answer, so I think they aren't posting because they took exception too. A bunch of regulars on a BB taking exception to what you say seems bad juju. Anyhow, thanks for posting to me.

46 1/2? Where can I look at that info? The Army Guard extended PA to 39 y/o and I'm 44 this year. I didn't think they would have different standards for nurses since they all have to pass OBC anyway. Your height/weight should pass bf analysis. Having a thick neck is also a morphological blessing. The thicker the neck, the less impact of torso fat. My seargent is only about 5'9" but his neck is 18 1/2! He's clinicaly obese but passes the measurement every time.

BTW, I'm an Army National Guard medic. It took me a 1 1/2 years of training through injuries to get to this standard. I was at 235,20 push-ups and 14 sit-ups when I started. I now pass bf analysis at around 210 and do better than some soldiers half my age. If you want my help with it just PM me.

There is a waiver for anything but you must be to physical standards. Example: I'm 5'11" and my weight limit is 192 lb. Since I am an older male and have muscle, I haven't seen 192 in about 15 years. The Army National Guard uses bf analysis to declare me fit. You will also need to perform a certain amount of sit-ups and push-ups with a 2 min limit for each with no rest. I'm upper-middle performance with 54 push-ups and 48 sit-ups. Training for the test is the hard part. Cutting weight while improving reps is painfull. That being said, if you can meet physical standards for a critical job with the military it will make you worth the trouble of getting a waiver. Just find a recruiter that needs the bodies.

Well, Am I banned yet? Speaking one's mind is usually fatal in nursing. I tried to post a more specific question so I could avoid off-topic discussion but I can't post a new thread. I understand why nurses would feel protective of nursing theory but please don't expect me to lie to you so you will like me. I understand the need to avoid anything that is not pro-nursing. Never wanted a conversation about it actually. Just thought I could get some good information from those that would know.

BTW, Is there such a thing as a military nursing school? If there isn't, why has nobody mentioned that? It would explain the lack of response to the original question. I often take for granted what I perceive as obvious as being automaticly included universaly.

Caring for and about patients is not really all that complicated. Not only would I make a good nurse but I would excel apparently. I take knowledge for granted that it takes nursing programs years to teach. I see no reason for such tedious focus on common sense. There was a disconnect between what I observed nurses doing in the real world and what I found in the curicculum. I can't help but think that there must be a better way to train them. I carried a high "B" in the coursework but felt that I had learned very little new information except for the skills labs that were virtually free of the didactic work. I thought that I may find that difference in military curicculum as is found in other skills that I've observed.

While we're on this subject, I think we'll agree on this - whose bright idea was it to allow folks to FLY on civilian aircraft in uniform? These people were not attaches or anything - they were returning from basic (you know how they stand out!). You couldn't do that when I was in. Now THAT is definitely UNSAFE!I was a 17y/o recruit once. I think I slept in my crakerjacks for a month once I earned them. Some of that could be attributed to ETOH abuse and not pride mind you but you could not have convinced me it was irrational. The counterterrorism briefings have come a long way. I'm certain that those recruits were going against SOP. I saw what looked like an entire company worth of soldiers in DBDUs in a civillian airport terminal. I couldn't believe they weren't out on the tarmack.

Carolina, Yes, I agree, I am overstating. I was trying to set a tone. Certainly saying that Army PAs work in tents is not going to give any useful information to an Ear. Certainly if they ever get half a clue and learn that mortars can be aimed and the margin of error for a missle is not usually 1 mile, then they will target all tents anyway;especialy the ones with big red crosses. Off the top of my head I can remember more than a few terrorists that were american citizens. The only reason we know about them is that they were caught. A military base is not what one would call a soft target but they would if they could. In Ghan an Airborne guy whacked two officers in thier tents. Soldiers die just training even. They must shoot live ammo to train for it. When a 1000 soldiers are blowing stuff up,shooting all kinds of weapons and riding tons of machinery, something is bound to happen. What I'm saying is that IEDs, mortars,missles, a kid tossing a grenade and the soldier next to you on the firing line forgetting to clear his weapon have no "front" from which to keep a safe distance from. Military duty is hazardous, no matter were one serves. BTW USS Truett FF1095 out of Norfolk 79-81

There is nowhere "safe" for a uniformed member of the military.

With all due respect; so do the insurgents. They want the most valued targets. An officer is certainly on that list.

All, I'm a 91W in the reserves planning my next career move as I approach 60 college credits. I have been to a civillian nursing program but found the dominance of psychosocial curicculum to be disapointing. There is so much more to being a nurse than psychology and sociology but it was impossible to see that there. I could easily see myself as a nurse but never could I imagine that I could put up with that curicculum for 2 years. Are the military programs, by any chance different?