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Just to add my 2 cents, I think applying to NY hospitals without your NY license would be pointless as the market is saturated with new grads already who have already taken their boards, so if a hospital doesn't overlook you due to your current location they certainly will if you havent taken the boards. Hospitals can afford to be very picky these days and you want all the points you can get. As previous poster stated, city hospitals are definitely more lenient when it comes to a bsn requirement. Also try to look into externships as well, I dont know if their still open to applications but I saw on lenox hill hospital's website that they were taking applications for new grads who have not yet taken their boards. Good Luck to all of you !

If you look above the posts this topic is a sticky and is quite helpful

Its a level 2 and they see about 75,000 per yr. I have no prior hospital experience and have only worked in a ltc for a few years which is as far opposite you can get from er! I am apprehensive because Ive been reading 6 months everywhere is ideal but it's been quite some time since ive graduated and jobs are VERY scarce in NY right now so I feel lucky to have been offered the position. I accepted the job offer today. Though im ridiculously nervous im so excited !!

How long is the usual for the length of a new grad er orientation? The particular position im referring to is 2-3 weeks classroom and 6-8 wks er.

Paco386- The first post states she already has her NY license number To original poster... Sadly, I was thinking of doing the reverse and obtaining my NJ license to expand my search. What parts of jersey were you applying to with no luck?

I heard from a friend who works there that Eger isnt hiring as of now but aside from the two hospitals mentioned theres also st. elizabeth anns. Also, since you will be moving to jersey soon, you should try getting your jersey license so you could expand your search.

There are a ton of neighborhoods to choose from in the Brooklyn/Queens area, it all depends on what you can afford. Also, if you are a new grad, now may not be a good time to find a job in NY as most new grads right now are having a difficult time.

As a RN, im not working as of yet unfortunately. I was working for one as an LPN but they have no RN openings. I thought you were offered a position in one already?

The union is 1199,at my facility they provided tuition reimbursement for all employees in the union. As far as the work exchange program, Im unsure of the details in terms of who qualifies as the person who took advantage of this was a LPN at the time. I dont know how far the commute would be for you, but the course at the hospital sounds like a really good opportunity because you would already have a job lined up, its most likely unionized and since youll be at a hospital already, you could eventually get a position as a nurse later on. I'd definitely look into that!

To the original OP... any update on your situation?

I'm not sure of the salary of an M.I but have you looked into CNA certification? The reason why I'm suggesting that is because it's a position with more patient contact which is ideal and many facilities provide tuition reimbursement through the union. At my old facility, one of the CNA's was able to accrue alot of overtime and save money so when she was ready to go back to school she was able to only work part time. Also, another program available with that same union was to work part time, get paid full time status and owe them back the time upon completion of school. Unless of course you could attain employment as a M.I that would do the same?

Being proficient in spanish alone would make you more marketable however I dont know if having a MI certification would necessarily give you more of an edge. Simply having the language skills (not sure of what other languages you are fluent in) is suffice. Also, many of the reasons why there is such a difficulty in the job market right now is based on our poor economy, by the time you are done with your schooling, things should be different (at least we all hope so). What I'm more focused on is why would you prefer going for the LPN and not the RN?

Yes there are many doctors on site until 6pm and then one for the entire facility until 8 am

Perhaps this facility is conducted this way because its a orthodox jewish facility, thats the only reason that I can come up with in terms of the foley issue. However the IV issue remains the same,only inserted by the MD. (Maybe b/c they had too many MD's employed who ended up sitting around twiddling their thumbs?).Due to this place not allowing so many things of nurses and it being the only place i have worked for, I was unaware how other ltc's conducted themselves and honestly assumed that maybe they all are like this because none of my co-workers seemed to be bothered by it. Due to that, I started to give some merit to that idea that in ltc you "lose" your skills b/c of the many restrictions here therefore creating a nonconducive learning enviroment. And to previous poster, yes this place is in the US , its in the NYC area.

I dont know how I missed this when it was originally posted however I am one of those who are unable to attain a position as a RN in ANY dept....geez I haven't received ANY callbacks either.... ! So to the one who found it hard to believe, it's true, unfortunately.

Well im happy I got some laughs out of a few of you and im def. happy that this isnt the norm in most facilities.

Well im happy to hear it ! Im a new grad RN, but worked in LTC as an LPN for 3 yrs up until last year so it wasnt too long ago. However, being that I only worked at the one facility, ive wondered how it is in others as im looking for another job. I dont know why this facility doesnt allow the nurses( LPN or RN) to do so but they dont, its ALWAYS been MD's for IVs and tech for bloods as there were always both available. I suppose this place ran on a different set of rules of their own because even a foley on a man was done only by the MD as well.

I have previously worked in a LTC facility and only Dr's started IVs and only phlebotomy techs draw bloods. I wanted to know is this customary in most ltc facilities?

I'm still waiting for the crazy part !! It seems as if these days, with nursing school, if you dont have some "story" or "situation" youre currently going through, you arent in the majority. No longer are classes full of students straight out of HS, many students are second, third career nurses with families. If this is what you truly want to do in terms of a career choice, then your limitations are of your own. Nursing school is tough to say the least but doable with the right support system. Also, you say that eventually you intend to cut your days at work to three, would it be possible to cut it all together at some later point? Because although you have free time at work, studying nursing material requires COMPLETE concentration in order to be effective. Are you doing the bsn route? Whichever pathway you choose, good luck to you!

Hey Erin As far as your day/night dilemma, I was just having this conversation with a fellow nurse who is also a mother however she prefers nights due to the issue of having someone watch them while shes at work. However, if you take a night position and your not a "night" person, it will be a big change for you and your body to adjust to. Also, on your days off, most night nurses maintain a similar schedule as if they are still working to ensure continuity in their body clock. It's doable but isnt for everyone. If you take the job and find that you cannot handle this type of schedule, after a few months, there may be open positions that are better suited for you. Good luck in whatever you choose. I read your previous post about the position being in l & d , do you mind me asking what hospital this is?

As far as my exp. has been with the job hunt it certainly feels downright impossible. I graduated May 08 and as of yet still have not landed a job and only received ONE call back from the countless applications ive put in. However, there have been people who've been able to get something. Every recruiter has said that its been a first for them this year, with the recession, budget cut backs, lay offs and hospital closings, theres quite an overabundance of applicants.

This was on NYS Nursing site, it shows results from 03-07 as well as the total number of students who sat for the boards from that school for each year. http://www.op.nysed.gov/nurseprogs-nclex-rn.htm

Does anyone have any info about medgars rn-bsn program??

bump-- Does anyone have any info about city techs or medgar evers bsn??

Not to beat a dead argument however I did want to share my two cents. First and foremost the purpose of this thread is to inform students who are interested in HF's CURRENT program and learning environment not as it was years ago. Philly, you attended the school in 05 you say, and though it may not seem like long ago, things certainly have changed at the school. Youre right, Ive met with people who were students during your time and from what I hear, the school was loaded with people who cheated on exams. I too, also know one student who graduated during that time who to this day cannot pass her boards and another who took it 6 times before she passed, she too also graduated at that time. And again your right, during that time passing rates at the school were horrendous due to the fact that there were many of those of who cheated. They, as students, did themselves no justice however it helped the school in a way.The school's faculty has learned ALOT since then in terms of trying to put an end to cheating and work diligently in weeding those type of people out. It's actually a shame that it even was such a serious issue, i mean seriously, arent we all adults! I'm a former grad of 08 and never did I once cheat on exams, careplans or whatever projects were assigned because theres absolutely no point. I was also nearly an A student, so it's possible to succeed at HF or wherever else if you want to without cheating. I also passed my boards on first try as did most all in my class. As far as teachers "throwing" work at you, its an accelerated program, so it certainly does feel that way but its because it's such a short time to learn what needs to be learned. However, many of the teachers aside from one in particular always was helpful IF you showed effort to learn. Some of the teachers conducted study groups outside of class, some assisted via phone for those who couldnt stay after class, and most were compassionate about the stressful nature of an accelerated program. With all that being said, the only reason why I wouldnt recommend HF, is if you have a choice of going straight to RN and not being an LPN first. In that way you would get classes that are offered at other nursing schools that arent offered at HF like the ones you mentioned at LIU.(For the record not ALL 2 yr RN programs have those classe either) However, if one is currently an LPN looking for an accelerated program, and is willing to work HARD for it, HF is the way to go.