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Is this a VALID reason to terminate someone?
Nope, not me. (yeah, accuse me of lying about this too tho it's cool). Though I've witness nurses who do this like it's a norm. LTCs predominantly.
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Is this a VALID reason to terminate someone?
No. Sorry if you perceived it differently. I'm not trying to blame anyone or the short staffing, heavy workload, limited orientation, coworkers. I am simply telling these factors could have a subtle effect of how you perform in a workplace. Like what @Iamintrouble had previously explained, there's really that pressure at LTC to fill those holes for state visits whether you did it or not. Most of the time, managers doesn't care. Though with my experience I really felt so stupid for giving in. That I missed out that 1 IV dressing and filling in holes. I know on a 3rd POV it's really stupid that I did it. But at the end of the day, I am to take responsible for my own actions. @maxthecath Please don't jump to conclusion I did not have IV education. It's not rocket science for nurses that anything that has to do with IV is sterile. I wasn't there all the time though. I only work 2x a week in my previous employer. And for those shifts. I work at nights. My patient was there for two weeks when I am supposed to be in charge of IV dressing. But it was found out after a month. All of us fail to check it. My mistake is the TAR was only initialed by me. @buckybadger Lol. I'm not fighting based on discrimination. It's just 1 of my friend said I should. He overly sympathized on my situation and tries to compare his bad history with racism when he worked long time ago. He thinks I'm getting discriminated because I worked in an environment heavily populated with black and Hispanic people. The management are all black. But giving a hard thought about what happened, I really don't think it has to do with race so I try to discourage my friend from getting a case based on racial discrimination. It's not just.. right. @Libby1987 I don't consider it lying. It was a stupid mistake and assumptions. The one you read on the other thread pertains to this situation I wrote here. I was wondering why not warning but they had to be termination. but @rubyvee gave a whole explanation of why I get fired regardless of the severity as long as it's NOT right. Thanks for all the response. I'm certainly getting back on my feet. Told myself I not gon' screw my license again.
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Is this a VALID reason to terminate someone?
Hi all. I just want you o know I appreciate all the insights you shared. Yes. I initialed it twice. I'm only there 2 times a week. I don't know what has gotten into me why I signed it. I am probably darn tired during those shifts, because 5 out of 8 regular shifts I do every month is always overtime because of our admission load. (we don't have admission nurse for months now and we have to shoulder that tasks beside working with our patients. (nurse patient ratio mostly is 1:17, max is 1:20). I feel stupid for doing a quick read and when I saw PRN, just shrugged it off and continue whatever I was doing that shift. I know I have to accept the fact I got terminated and I was really in some denial and anger when I was typing my post. (If you observed closely I am trying to justify my side). Though there are part of me says I am grateful this happened to me as it really teach me some good lesson. Yes. I only get 5 days of training. I'm a new nurse so skill such as IV lines are never oriented properly to me. I just observed my supervisors do and of course, ask if I'm uncertain of something. I always asked them but I felt they are no help. I feel like I am patterning my habit to their habit. They make me feel like it's okay to do some stuff *which I'm not going to mention here* (due to heck loads of information redundancy and absurd tasks that was at the computer system) because that's what most regular nurses (some supervisors) do there. And I feel ashamed and hate myself for being a sheep with that kind of attitude at work. It really bites me back. @holypeas Yes. Everyone had not been checking the date of the dressing and just basically relay it to the next nurse. I don't know if they also got terminated since they're fulltime. Whenever a treatment is left undone, I do it. *I've seen a lot of unchanged dressings (wound) for almost a week and I always do it. But it's a shame that I missed this one of all the treatments I try to cover for my other co-nurses. I REALLY LEARNED MY LESSON HERE. I just wish they just suspended me and not termination that's why I felt it is SO ufair. My family said I should be grateful this happened to me early in my career so it will helped me realized how sensitive my job is. I'm moving on though. I got 4 job interviews this week. I'll definitely carry this experience to my future jobs. Thank you all.
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Is this a VALID reason to terminate someone?
Unfortunately, the HR was the one who brought me the news. The investigation conducted by DON and my unit manager was brought to the main HR and arrived to a decision that I'm a let go because, falsifying of documentation. Which they make sound so severe in relation to WHAT really happened. The HR of my employee and the hospital I get the job in was 1 entity. So I have no fight. :/
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Wrongful termination
I feel you. I got terminated on an incident I'm not even present. Prior to that event, I didn't have any disciplinary actions, written ups or verbal warning. All my reviews from peers are superb and full of compliments. I worked hard for a good career and this is what we got. It's just SO unfair employers doesn't give a damn about what you contribute to them. :
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Is this a VALID reason to terminate someone?
I NEED OPINIONS. THIS REALLY MADE ME SO DEPRESSED FOR DAYS NOW. Recently I got terminated on my 5th month for an incident that did not happened of my shift. I'm a new nurse. Barely on my 5 months on the facility I worked for(so im still on probation being an orientee). DURING MY 5 MONTHS For the first few months I was working hard. I got very good feedbacks from other staff member, from patients to families for being attentive to their needs and whatnot. All in all, I was doing really well. Even my manager and director commend me because they've been hearing good stuff from peers. Not to brag but I'm really the kind of person who likes to balance things out. I worked for a rehab/LTC and since it has gloom atmosphere, I try to put in a cheery attitude. So that really keeps my job a breeze. Despite all this efforts, I don't fit in to my working environment. Most of them have 5-10 years of experience. Mostly, they are beyond my age range. As I'm only on my 1 year. Some of my coworkers warned me about others being a snitch but I brushed it off. I'm just there to do my job. But then again, I kept this 1 or 2 time subtle informal counseling from my unit manager about this and that. But being new, I just signed away it not knowing it will go on my records. Again, it did not bother me because I consistently getting smiles and good feedback from them. It gave me this illusion that it's a team and everyone got each other's back. ON MY 4th MONTH Anway, a month before this incident, I got a nursing job under the new grad program from an affiliated hospital. Being a new nurse, I couldn't be happier. But all my coworker had been telling me that that I have to be a 6 months employee to get a hospital transfer. The human resource manager from the hospital said that they requested my director if they could make an exception for me. The director agreed on one condition; they have to find a replacement for me before I leave. After a month of waiting, they finally found a replacement for me. But on my final week of working in this rehab, this incident happened: Last week, I was so in distraught I got terminated for 1 time mistake I'm not even aware of! An IV line that was found clogged last week of February. They found out that IV dressing wasn't change since from the patients admission to the facility (which was early feb). They said it was supposed to be change every week. I was the nurse on duty during those shifts that it needed to be change. They saw on the treatment records my initials, indicating that I have done it. Mainly, they blame the unchanged needle connector for getting clogged. In my defense, and in all honesty, I took it as a PRN because a PRN was added in the instruction. So on those both shifts I only did an assessment,; the IV line was patent, clean and intact. I really thought it appears every day so I did not worry. Also, the change needle connector wasn't stated on the instruction. So even though the IV dressing was changed, it will still be clotted since it's not stated there. I also asked them how come other nurses didn't notice that the IV dressing wasn't change (I'm only part time and I'm not there all the time). Regardless of my explanations, they kept emphasizing how I did not do my job on those days. AND it really make me so nervous because my director is lawyering me. For confidentiality, the incident happened like: Day 7 of week 1, I was nurse on duty. Day 7 of week 2, I was nurse on duty. Day 7 of week 3, Other nurse was on duty. (No one initialed on this day) Day 7 of week 4, IV line was found clogged. Dressing was found not changed. Week 5, they did an investigation based on grievance. The next day they find I'm at fault and fired me. Day 7 of week 5. Supposed to be my LAST day. On week 5, they summoned me at the office. They told me that I am terminated for falsifying a documentation. (DESPITE MY EXPLANATIONS!!) I never been so devastated. What's more crushing was that they said I won't also be getting my hospital transfer. What's really aggravating about my situation was that they terminated me 1 day before my last day. I am also confused with the number of compliments I am getting, they fire me over this kind of incident. When I told this to my friends, they told me it sounds like there's discrimination because normally, incidents like this has a process. Start of from a verbal warning, to written warning and to a suspension. I did not get any counselling, nor warning... and I will gladly accept if it's suspension, but I feel like termination is an extreme consequence. So I'm asking you guys if you think it is justifiable to terminate me over an incident that didn't happen on my shift? ( For weeks since I got the hospital job, I kept following up with them because I feel like they were stalling me and I don't want to miss out the program. I also never get a return call from HR after at least 3 calls per week. But then again, my director reassure me she's communicating with them and that they extended the position for me. Being a motivated new nurse, I was hoping I'm not being a bugger. I can't help but to think it was all a set up because this all happens right after they found a replacement for me. Do you guys think I irritated them for asking when my hospital transfer would be. I really feel like I pissed of my director and kept getting my hopes high so I won't leave until she find a replacement for me. Then decided to screw things up for me. What do you think? I don't know what to think anymore. *sorry for typos and grammatical errors
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Night shift or day shift ?
There's pros and cons. It mainly depends on your preference and/or needs. NIGHT PROS A lot of down time - if you're new, best time to learn the system in your facility. quiet - mostly your clients are asleep. the big bosses aren't around CONS well, it's night. it's a struggle to be awake. You don't get enough experience (comm skills, clinical skills) as all the action happens during the day. The real work starts an hour before your shift ends. DAY PROS More action, more experience. You'll be a pro in no time! T It's fast pace environment. Time's so faster. You start your shift, get lunch.. next time you'll know, you we're punching out the time clock. Y You get to communicate more with variety of professionals and other people. A good opportunity to expand your network. CONS More work. You have to get your acts together cause there's lot of probing eyes. Chances are you'll be skipping lunch breaks if it's so busy unless you're trying to lose weight.
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Forced to resign, new grad with only 1 year of experinece.
Listen, you are very lucky. You get warnings. In my recent job, they terminated me and pinned me because of a mistake that can attributed to a lot of factors (like poor working environment, short staff, nurses not paying attention, unclear instruction from Computer), it just so happen that an incident fell on my shift and they pinned that mistake on me. Never counsel me nor gave me suspension. Just automatically fired me though the liability should equate to the whole team. It was about unchanged IV dressing. Though they found out it was unchanged after few weeks after my last shift and I got all the blame.Funny is that IV meds had been given to the patient like EVERYDAY. So how come full time nurses didn't caught it? I questioned that when they did the investigation. But they just doesn't care as long as they can point fingers to someone. I was so upset they NEVER do any counselling on me since I'm new. And the full time nurses/CNAs who I frequently observe not doing things right, are still there. Never get fired. W hy?? Because they're either the frequent complainers or close to the management. The gossip crowd. I never get supervisors and managers like that..
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TOEFL Exam for foreign nursing grads
Regardless, the analyst will still require you to do TOEFL because you're a foreign grad. And they'll take a note of the date of your exam. One way to prevent state hoppers.
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New RN hired on the spot during an interview in a Assisted Living
Thanks. But my soon to be work place has a memory care too! And I have no familiarity how RN function in memory care. any idea?
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New RN hired on the spot during an interview in a Assisted Living
I was hired in an assisted living facility as an RN a few months after I got my license. but I know RNs in AL facilities are similar to managerial positions and has to have experience. Will it be alright if I work in a AL even I have no working background as a RN in Assisted livings though I have worked in assisted living as a CNA for years? It just scares me compare to hospital jobs! Help. Thanks!
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New RN hired on the spot during an interview in a Assisted Living
Hi, last thursday I submitted an application on several skilled and assisted living facilities . Then the day after that, I got a phone call, I got a job interview and was hired on the spot by the wellness director of an assisted living. The director and her assistant were the ones who did the interview, They knew I am a new nurse and is currently employed as a C.N.A position in a assisted living where I do most meds and is a team lead. In short, no working background as an RN. They took an interest on my resume because I am working in AL. Then at the end of the resume, I asked them how many RN's working now. They said I will be the first RN if ever because they're both LPNs. Meaning, I was hired on the spot. They don't even call or asked my reference. They said the previous ones are pretty old school (considering I'm young). I was so thrilled I snag a RN job but I'm worried I might be thrown to the wolves. Or am I being paranoid? Do they really hire entry level RNs at assisted living? Thanks!
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Endorsing my WA CNA license to FL
@ador and mikii I am planning to move from WA state to FL state. I just received my Florida license and has zero experience as an RN (aside from my clinical experience as a student of course) but have ample experience as a CNA. It worries me that what if I won't get job immediately. Since I don't know anyone there. Some people advised me to apply first before moving, but I don't think I have a high chance of getting interviewed or picked if I don't have any local address in Florida. Besides, I really intended to live in a sunny state that's why I applied there. It's just my family situation holding me back. What do you think? Is it a bad move? I'm really confused.
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Endorsing my WA CNA license to FL
...hi. I'm planning to move to FL in four months from washington state.. is it possible to transfer my CNA license to FL state even though I have an RN license for FL state? Help? Thanks.
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TOEFL Exam for foreign nursing grads
I just had my TOEFL. It was okay. It's the speaking section that's difficult for me (that 2 academic passages and prompts are). I took a lot of practice to manage that. The only tip I could share is know your strategy then practice, practice, practice, and practice. I'm still waiting for the results though.