kjnsweets

I guess I’m old school. I was taught by my parents that you don’t sleep on the job. I work night shift. I’m an older nurse but even when I was younger and worked nights I never slept on the job. I was always taught that is stealing time from the company. Where I work there is one nurse that sleeps all of the time and she is not told anything. There are CAs that sleep and the charge nurse doesn’t tell them anything either. I’ve brought it to my boss and nothing gets done. Where else do I go from here? No one on my unit seems to care.

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I live in southern Louisiana. Been doing some research on this. Haven't found a lot. Will keep you updated. I know with hurricane Rita our hospital had a lot of travel nurses so check with them maybe

Exactly. That's what I do but none of the other nurses I work with do this. I would think there are big legal issues with this.

I have a question. We have students that are present at our facility for clinicals. We still do paper charting. Some of the nurses that I work with do not chart the whole time that the students are here. I choose to do my own narrative charting because of cya and not charted not done. I figure it something goes to court and I don't document that I was in the room at any time that the students are present then I wasn't in the room at all. I was told that it was an understanding that the instructor is responsible for the patient. If that was the case why do I get report on these patients in the morning when the students have them. I guess I'm answering my question myself but I want to know legal issues where this is concerned. I have been in a deposition behind another nurse before and it wasn't anything nice. Don't want to go there again.

I understand they addressed issues they some were having individually or as a class as a whole.

Just a board that her instructors had came up with and they picked certain students to serve on this board. That's all I was told. A board of her fellow classmates.

She served on a board that consisted of her fellow classmates. Don't know how much more clear I can be?

Sometimes iphone makes typos. They have voiced to to us and their fellow classmates they are on this to stay awake for clinicals. Also I meant that one of our new hires was put on a board while she was in school and that was an important issue for that board. They termed it chemically cheating.

Ok so this is what we( not just me) observed to be specific. This student in question could not stand still. His eye movement was very erratic and to try and talk to him one on one was not possible for not being able to stand still long enough. I was not the only nurse that observed his behavior. There were other nurses also and they had the same concerns. There was a conversation about how hard school was and about some of them were having to work and go to school and adding clinicals was making it hard for them to stay awake. That was when this student made the comment that he got a prescription for adderall from his dr to help him stay awake for clinicals. Nothing was said at that time until a few days later when we were talking to one of the new hires and she stated that there are students that do this. It's termed chemically cheating is what I was told. This student is no longer at my hospital. I don't know if he graduated or not. I do know that if I see another student acting the way he was whether or not he has a medical condition or not. I will go to my team leader with my concerns and let them handle it or they can observe the student or employee. Nothing else has happened with this situation. I have learned alittle from this conversation but it did offend me because most if you all thought that I was automatically degrading people with mental disorders and neuro disorders. If that is so then I would be degrading myself because as said before I take celexa for diagnosed depression. Not sure if this is all of the information that so many of you have said I was vague on....but there it is.

I do appreciate the information that you all have given me. I do believe that there are people that abuse it but there are the ones that truely need those types of medications. I really just took this student at his word. Even if he had said I take this for ADD or ADHD if had seen the same behavior I think I would have still questioned it. Thank you for all of the advice.

One question...isn't something like adderall when u have ADHD supposed to make more focused? Less hyper? Can it have an opposite effect on someone with ADHD?

Okay enough bashing me. I have said this time and time again...the nursing student said that he was on Adderall to stay awake for clinicals not because of ADHD. If it had been that I would not of had a problem okay. If I felt that he was still acting irresponsible even though he had ADHD and even though he was on medicines yes I would still voice my concerns. But that was not what he said I took him for his words shame on me enough said.

Thank you this is why I stepped out of the conversation because it was going where it didn't need to go. Several times I have said that I know there are medical reason that people take these medications and most of the people that have commented on this have not noticed that. I've been told so as much as it's not my business. I have made my decision that if it brings harm to my patient then it is my business. I do watch the students when they take care of my patients because when push comes to shove the patient is my responsibility and safety of the pt falls on me. None of you that have commented on this saw the way this student was acting. So just as much as you all have said that I am making accusations...you all are assuming. I saw a student that I felt was not acting right. He made the comment when asked about how he had so much energy that he takes adderall to stay awake. Not my fault if he is lying I take people at their word. I am stepping out of this conversation because of the fact that it has gotten so ugly which was not my intent. Thank you for the advice.

I did answer it just read my quotes