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I think you have to contact Ryerson about what constitutes as mature status. It has something to do with being out of school for X amount of years and a person's age. I agree, contact the Ryerson School of Nursing for direction. That way you will know for sure what kind of prerequisites are required to be admitted into the program!

I agree. Group sessions would entirely be to reinforce material I think. There's no substitute for individual study sessions. That said, some people thrive from group study, so I think its entirely an individual preference based on a person's habits and knowing what works for them. Good advice though. RUserious, when I get back from the cottage perhaps we can share some study material. I'll be back in mid August though, so study hard until then ;)

So the program at George Brown College is a collaborative degree with Ryerson University and Centennial College. When you finish your 4 years, your degree will actually say a Collaborative BScN, with all three sites on them. What does this mean? Well, students at each of the sites for the first two years, take all the same courses. The exam dates and times for the core nursing courses are actually all on the same day for all 3 sites, so students don't phone their friends at the other sites and tell them what was on the exam. The courses at George Brown College and Centennial for the BScN are actually all University courses. When you finish 2nd year, all students from George Brown College and Centennial College join their counterparts at Ryerson University, where they'll finish their academic programs (years 3 and 4) there. So what does this mean for you? Well, its actually great news. Ryerson has one of the biggest continuing education programs in the Country through the Chang School of Continuing education at Ryerson University. In the BScN, each year you will be required to take lower liberals, upper liberals and professional electives. I would suggest that if you have all the prerequisites to enter the nursing program, you start taking these electives at Ryersons Chang School ASAP. That way, you won't have to do them during the year, which will make your courseload easier and will allow you to concentrate on your core nursing subjects, which cannot be taken there. Before I entered the nursing program, I took Nutrition for nursing, two lower liberals, and intro to psychology. While other students during their first year struggled juggling these courses with their nursing courses, some of whom actually ended failing or barely passing, I was able to concentrate solely on my nursing core subjects and had a crazy high GPA. You will become a smarter nursing student with less stress,and its a great way to start your academic career. After first year, I took some elective courses for second year during the summer. The disadvantage to this is you will be paying more money. The electives I spoke of are included in your yearly tuition. If you take them in the summer, you will have to pay more, so thats the downside for some people. If you can afford it though, take them as I have suggested. You will thank me once you really get into your nursing course load and see how heavy it is. I was actually able to work part time during the year because my course load was easier, which enabled me to pay for my courses during the summer. Ask yourself, why take the psychology during the year if you can finish it off during the summer? PSYCHOLOGY IS A VERY HEAVY SUBJECT - GET IT OUT OF THE WAY!!!! Lots of students did what I did if that offers you any kind of reassurance. You're actually in a very good position IMO. My advice, get the syllabus, find out what these electives are, and then check with Ryerson if you can take these through their continuing education department. Once you finish the course, they are automatically transferred. I'm sure you're thinking that they won't be transferred because you intend on going to George Brown COllege. I repeat....THEY ARE THE SAME PROGRAM. Talk to either Ryerson School of Nursing or George Brown School of Nursing for clarification. One more thing though, make sure you have all the pre-requisites to enter the program such as Chemistry, etc, etc. Without them, you may not be admitted as, it is quite competitive. Go to the Ryerson nursing department, and talk to them there and ask them what are the pre-requisites if you're applying as a mature student. I'm assuming thats what you're doing. Either way, this will give you an opportunity to talk about the credits you already have. I repeat...... It is all exactly the same courses for both schools. I should know, I just graduates with a Collaborative BSCN from the Collaborative Ryerson, Centennial, George Brown program. Good luck and message me if you have any other questions. P.S. A lot of the courses that I spoke of are online during the summer. I actually took nutrition for nursing online. FYI

Ha its true that allnurses can take hours and hours of your time...lol. Unplug your ethernet cable and get to work!!!!!

I can't speak much for other Provinces, but in Ontario both the RN and RPN degree and diploma programs are only offered by Government Regulated Institutions (Universities and Colleges), and not by private colleges. Now whats the benefit of this? One, you have lower tuitions. All tuitions for the RN program are fairly similar in cost, approximately 5-6 thousand dollars a year, give a take a few hundred dollars. This seems to be the case for the 4 year degree programs in Ontario. The college RPN programs seems to be priced the same among the government regulated institutions. Now I'm not familiar with the college that you are referring to, but it seems to be that it is a private college, hence the big time prices. Private colleges in Ontario offer programs such as the PSW, and sometimes charge as much as 15,000 a year. The second advantage lies with the credibility of the institution. Universities and Colleges, in my opinion, are highly structured and complex in their organization. This adds to their credibility and structure. Private colleges on the other hand don't have this kind of history. They are profit geared, and some sometimes have problems with their credibility. So it is my opinion that you take it at a government regulated university or college, and not at a private college. Good luck in your endeavors.

Hi MUD, if we get organized we can form a study group. In the meantime, I suggest that we start posting difficult questions in this forum, and we can all benefit from in our studying. Hey how did you find out you failed by 6 points on your exam, sorry I saw your other post. I'm pretty sure that they don't give you that information, all it says is that you failed. How did you find that information out? Thanks.

Hi MUD, how do you know you failed by 6 points? The RN exam doesn't tell you how many points you fail by from what I understand, it just says you fail. How did you get that information

Okay OCTOBERCRNE, we will just leave the link for people to make their own judgements about the Toronto School of Health being charged for operating as an illegal vocational school and offering illegal programs. Good luck with your course with them, no hard feelings. http://www.tcu.gov.on.ca/pepg/audiences/pcc/letters/Toronto%20School%20of%20Health%20Inc%20_Restraining%20Order_January%2028%202009.pdf http://www.tcu.gov.on.ca/pepg/audiences/pcc/letters/Toronto%20School%20of%20Health%20Inc%20%20-%20Particulars%20of%20Notice%20of%20Contravention%20and%20Review%20Decision.pdf Now, lets concentrate on posting CRNE like questions so that we can all study!!!!!! No more talking about this!!! I will try this weekend to put some together and post them. I have to start studying myself because before you know it, its going to be October :-)

All I know is that they got charged for operating as an illegal school and offering illegal programs. You can take it, but I can't trust a school that has been already charged as an illegal school. Have you seen how much they charge? I know at least 3 people who said that the course is being taught by some guy who isn't even a nurse. No offense, but you have 3 posts and all of them your trying to get people to go to the Toronto School of Health. I think you probably work there. Advertising is not allowed in this forum. Please stop trying to advertise your school over and over again in this CRNE group or I will report you to the administrator. Otherwise your welcome to post questions here that will help out CRNE studying. We get it, you like the school even though they were charged for advertising and offering illegal programs. Stop plugging it okay

Octobercrne, didn't you read the posts about the toronto school of health being charged for offering illegal programs? I put the links at the top. I wouldn't take it with them if I were you. Heres the link again in case you can't access it cause I really don't want you to lose money or get ripped off. http://www.tcu.gov.on.ca/pepg/audien...028%202009.pdf Smiley, check it out for yourself. Sounds sketchy IMO

wow I don't envy any of you. I'm planning on writing mine in October, and assume I will be in the same waiting game you guys are in then. I hope you guys all pass. Good luck, I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

I wouldn;t take anything at the Toronto School of Health, I've heard a lot of bad things about them. Apparently they got charged for operating as an illegal school. Check out the link. http://www.tcu.gov.on.ca/pepg/audiences/pcc/letters/Toronto%20School%20of%20Health%20Inc%20_Restraining%20Order_January%2028%202009.pdf Scary...we should start a forum about these guys! I hate people who try and take of advantage of students. Apparently the ministry of training, colleges and universities charged them for operating as an illegal private college. http://www.tcu.gov.on.ca/pepg/audiences/pcc/letters/Toronto%20School%20of%20Health%20Inc%20%20-%20Particulars%20of%20Notice%20of%20Contravention%20and%20Review%20Decision.pdf Hey check out this link. It details how they were posting fake ads and pretending to offer a psw program, which turned out to be fake because they are an illegal school. Their website is also listed on the document www.torontoschoolofhealth.com. They were apparently posting these ads on craigslist and kijiji offerning this fake program and were charged by the ministry. I called them and the same lady ***** answered the phone, that is listed in the government warning. Scary!!!!!!I wouldn't take anything with them IMO. Ha! I just read more of the document on the first link. The ministry even took a picture of their illegal program webpage and added it to the link, and there is even reference to the CRNE on it. I don't have time to read it all, but at least I found this. ARen't you glad OctoberCRNE that I found this :-) Hey guys check out this site I found. They have NCLEX questions, but the content I think is pretty good for studying for the CRNE on top of our study manuals. The first link is a set of questions here http://www.studyguidezone.com/nclexrn_practice2.htm Look at the bottom of the practice test page. You can choose from about 5 other practice tests. Pretty cool :-))))))))))))))))))) http://www.unc.edu/~bangel/quiz/quiz5.htm Check out this website, I think its a pretty cool learning tool, that we can use to test ourselves. It has quizzes for metric conversions, tablet dosage calculations, fluid dosage, and IV Flow rate calculations. I'm gonna try it tomorrow, so if anyone does it let me know what you think about it. http://www.davesems.com/files/Drug_Dose_Calculations.pdf Another useful dosage calculation file I found online. Pretty cool, although once again I haven't done it myself, so I can't tell you if its good or not. I'll do all the links on the weekend, and I'll let you know what I think

I think anxiety is something everyone feels and its completely natural. Although you're not a new grad, you are essentially leaving your comfort zone and entering into a new experience. New job, new people, new institutional regulations. Will you be liked? Will you like the job? Was it worth the change? Will it work out? These questions and more, are things that we unconsciously process in our minds 24/7. Once you get the job and you work there for about a months of so, only then will your anxiety subside. Till then, take your B100 vitamin, go for a run, hang out with friends, and prepare as much as possible for your interview and you will make it!

okay that sounds good r.u.serious. I will be going up to the cottage for the next three weeks though (unexpected !), so perhaps we can arrange the group when I come back. I will have the internet though, so maybe we should start posting questions on here, and we could discuss it. Hard questions only I think, because posting miscellaneous questions would be too time consuming. That way we would have our own little CRNE exam prep forum. Just out of curiousity, have you started studying yet. What kind of prep manuals are you planning on using??? I haven't started studying yet, but its something I want to jump into, so any suggestions would be very helpful. Talk to you later BTW, I contacted the CRNE prep school toronto school of nursing that joan suggested and they said they would give us a group discount if we had enough people, although spaces are apparently limited. A bunch of my friends took the course with them, and they said it was really good because it tied in the 4 years of nursing together, and gave them a mock exam. I'm not sure if I'm going to do it yet though, because its a bit of an investment, although they are cheaper than the other places I called. If you are interested you can email them at [email protected] So about the questions, maybe if we talk about acid base imbalance for example and post these kind of questions, it will help us with our studying. We can concentrate on difficult areas, and doing it will also motivate us to study. Plus explaining it to someone else in lamens terms always helps reinforce studied material. Just an idea. Talk to you later Hey R.U.Serous I'm thinking about getting the CNA book. What are your thoughts on it, do you have it yet? http://www.cna-nurses.ca/CNA/nursing/rnexam/preptools/default_e.aspx

I would just take a refresher course and study study study for the NCLEX program. Save the money your going to spend on the LPN program and buy yourself a jacuzzi or something and put the rest away for your 4 year old daughter. Hire a tutor and put in the effort. Thats my opinion, you obviously have the intellectual ability to pass, you did achieve the requirements of a degree afterall. Take a chance, you don't really have anything to lose. You can always do the LPN if all else fails.