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Any CRNA students get in without ICU experience?
In my experience, I have not heard of anyone who has been accepted to CRNA school with NO ICU experience. I know some programs may consider PACU and/or ER as critical-care experience, depending on the setting and what kind of patients are taken care of there. I also heard that some programs may accept applicants who are newly transferred to an ICU floor (but with med-surg floor background), and will have at least 1 year of critical-care experience done by the time they start the program. I am not sure if there are certain CRNA schools out there that will accept applicants with NO ICU experience. So it will all depend on what program you are applying to. I would contact the school or Program Director and see if they consider your unit as critical-care experience.
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What are my chances of getting into CRNA school if...
As the previous post stated, yes it is possible to apply to CRNA school with your BSN degree from online (as long as the school is accredited etc). I know of a CRNA who got her ADN, worked full-time in the ICU to gain her critical-care experience while obtaining her BSN degree online at the same time. So if you go with this route, I would try and get high grades in all your science classes and obtain the highest GPA possible in both your ADN & BSN. And I'm sure you already know that the GPA is one aspect- CRNA admission committee will look at the whole picture of an applicant. So you're on the right track, wish you the best of luck!
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SRNA Loans for 2011
Hi, I started my CRNA program this past September 2011 and am currently using loans to pay for my tuition and cost of living. You are right that the Stafford Loan will cover $20,500 per year. If you need additional loans, you either have the option of GradPLUS or Private Loans (Ex: Wells Fargo). The 2 loans are both credit-based, with an option of a co-signer. The GradPLUS loan has a fixed interest rate, whereas a Private Loan interest rate can vary depending on where you look. I decided to go with GradPLUS loan and was able to borrow up to the maximum amount of the cost of my tuition/attendance year. Once you decided which CRNA program you will attend, you can also contact their Financial aid office and they can provide you with more specific information on how much you can borrow. Some other helpful advice that I would pass on is to create some kind of reasonable monthly budget that will show how much you spend & need each month, therefore you will know how much you need to borrow. Also before you start CRNA school, try and eliminate as much debt- such as credit-cards (if you have any) as best as possible. I did this, along with saving as much as I could until I started school and this has helped me a lot. So I hope some of this information will be useful to you, good luck!
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Paying for CRNA school?
I just started CRNA school in September and I am using student loans to pay for my tuition, cost of living, etc for the next 2-3 years. Depending on what program you attend, you may be able to work part-time or per-diem before clinicals or during semester breaks. I decided to quit working full-time before school started, but several people in my class are still working since we are not yet in clinical. I chose the Federal Stafford loan & GradPLUS loan and borrowed up to the maximum amount I could. Private loans are also a good option, but it is credit-based and the interest rates are variable. Some things that helped me before I started school was I paid off my debt and eliminated my credit-card bills. I also worked A LOT of overtime in the last few months before I quit and that definitely helped me save more money. So I would take a good look and see where you are financially and if it would be possible to make it work. Remember it will be a financial hit, but hope the sacrifice will be worth it in the end. Good luck!
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Anyone know of decent private loan options?
My credit was checked when I applied for the GradPLUS loan, it also gets checked if you apply for a private loan. I'm not sure if a GradPLUS loan is easier to get vs a private loan, I'd have to research more into that. All I had to do was apply for the GradPLUS loan online, and was approved after my credit-check (Equifax). Now I just have to follow up with my school's financial aid office to see when the loan gets in.
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Quickest Route Possible
After my BSN I was able to get hired straight into the ICU as a new grad. I initially wanted to apply after 1 year ICU experience, but I knew it's very competitive to get accepted. So I took another year to boost my application/resume- I got my CCRN, took graduate-nursing courses, and shadowed a CRNA. I applied to CRNA schools with 2 years of ICU experience and was accepted for admission the following year. Now I have 3 years ICU experience total and will be starting my CRNA program next month... and I still think this was a pretty quick route.
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Anyone know of decent private loan options?
When I was doing some research online, I found that Wells Fargo interest rates were lower, but are variable. I contacted the Financial Aid office at my school and decided to go with GradPLUS since it's a fixed interest rate (7.9%). I was able to apply online and borrow up to the maximum cost of my attendance, and since my credit score is good I did not need a co-signer.
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What to review during my leisure time.
I would recommend a CCRN Review book. It will be useful for when you're working in the ICU, and if you take the exam later it's a big plus on your application to CRNA school. If you're looking for an anesthesia book- Duke's Anesthesia Secrets is good book that's in Q&A format. You won't really need it until you're in school, but I find it's interesting to flip to a page and read a question here & there.
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Anyone know of decent private loan options?
I am also in the process of trying to find more info on taking out a private loan. I didn't want to use the GradPLUS loan, and so far I'm looking into Wells Fargo as a good option. I haven't applied for the loan yet and I'll probably speak with my school's loan officer first to see what's best.
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Work's reaction when you mention CRNA school
Hey everyone! I just wanted to see what reaction others have got after they told their manager or co-workers they are pursuing or leaving for anesthesia/CRNA school?? On my ICU unit, once its out in the open that you are headed for anesthesia school- you are pretty much destined to have the worst patient assignments on unit, PAIRED together . And the reason is "well you're leaving for anesthesia school anyway". However, the nurses who are in school to become a Nurse Practitioner (NP) do not get this treatment.. it's strictly meant for those nurses going for CRNA. I'm not asking for the sickest patient assignments on the unit, but why does it have to be that way???
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How many of you CRNA's have your CCRN?
I am also a SRNA and was CCRN Certified prior to applying for CRNA school. I definitely recommend obtaining your CCRN Certification, this can help increases your chances of acceptance. From what I read online, the process of CCRN Renewal- "You must have spent a minimum of 432 hours caring for critically and acutely ill patients during the 3-year period you held the CCRN certification. During the 12 month period leading up to your renewal, you must have spent at least 144 hours caring for these patients. These hours must be spent caring for a specific patient type: adult, neonatal, or pediatric. There are three renewal options to choose from: take the CCRN Certification exam (again), renew with CERP’s (Continuing Education Recognition Point Programs), or choose inactive status. You may not meet the eligibility hours requirement. You do not want to lose your CCRN certification, but you need more time to gain the required hours. You will need to pick the inactive status option. The Inactive status will give you more time to earn those hours, up to 3 years. However, during your inactive status, you must never represent yourself as CCRN certified. If AACN discovers this, your status will be revoked." However, I will be in CRNA school during that time and I am not sure if my hours spent in the clinical/OR will qualify for renewal. I also heard that most people let their CCRN expire since once you become a CRNA you will not need your CCRN. If you still want to keep your CCRN, I read online that you can apply for Alumnus Status. "Alumnus status was designed for CCRN-certified who have left direct bedside care but are still in the nursing profession in some other capacity, many of whom have expressed a strong desire to remain connected with their credential. Alumnus status is renewable on a 3-year cycle. The "Alumnus CCRN" designation, written out, may be used on your CV or resume or below your name and credentials on a business card, but may not be used after your signature or on a name badge.The eligibility requirements are: Have held CCRN certification for at least 3-years at some time in the past; No longer working at the bedside of acutely or critically ill patients for enough hours to renew an active CCRN certification; Submission of a completed application and fee; No submission of CERPs is required." So I might plan to keep my CCRN as well, and will probably go with this option.
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should nursing school more students and not have a cut off requirment
When I was in nursing school I remember our Dean told us the reason why they have a cut off requirement and cannot let more students in the program also has to do with clinical placement for students and lack of faculty staff. If there are a lot of students in the program it might be harder to place them at clinical sites, since not every single hospital is a teaching facility or accepts nursing students. Also keep in mind that other nursing schools/programs in the area will be at the same hospital, so there is limited space during the week. This is why some nursing programs have clinical rotation during the weekend. There is also not that many full-time nursing professors and clinical instructors. Usually nursing classes are offered once or twice a week with a few professors teaching the class. In clinical, it has to be a small group of nursing students since nursing units cannot have 20 students there all at once with only 1 clinical instructor.
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First year syllabus request. :D
Congrats on your acceptance! If you decide to go to UPenn, I would recommend taking their MSN core classes (pharmacology, pathophysiology) since you have a year before you start CRNA school. I did this and it will help lighten your course load when you're in the program. If you have already done this, try contacting the Program Director to see if she can e-mail you the first year's syllabus or a list of CRNA books used. A lot of students did this in my program so its okay to start reading to get ahead, Good luck!
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RN license in more than one state? NCLEX in New York applicable to any state?
You'll only need to take the NCLEX exam once as long as you pass. You can have your RN license in more than 1 state, this is called transferring your license or endorsement. In your example- You can have your original RN license in NY and you will apply to transfer/endorse your license to CA. NY will have to verify your RN license, and then you will be issued a RN license in CA. As long as your RN license is currently registered in whatever state you choose, you can work as a RN in that state. Eventually, your RN license will expire and then you will have to renew your license again. Hope this made sense, I have a RN license in 3 different states and it can cost a couple hundred of dollars to apply and keep current, so keep that in mind!
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Just Curious To Know
I also agree with the comments above, I have never heard of a CRNA program that can be completed on a part-time basis. All the CRNA programs I searched were a full-time requirement and you had to quit your job (whether you sign a contract, or by choice). I have heard of students though who have worked on a per-diem basis, or up until clinical starts (Ex: working a few shifts during Christmas break). But then I came across this website online... http://www.all-crna-schools.com/crna-programs.html#section8 It mentions 2 CRNA programs that can be completed on a part-time basis- Rosalind Franklin University, IL and Carolinas Medical Center & University of North Carolina at Charlotte, NC. So now I'm curious to know if anyone knows if this is updated and still true?