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if you're into money, less hassle and consistency, then just do OTs. 1.5x salary, so if some is earning $36.5, after 40hours it'll become $54.75 compared to $46.5. You have to look at the whole picture. first, do not think that 401k deduction is bad. that's free money. If you don't deduct you 401k from per diem, where does it go? to the taxes. dont be blinded by the up front salary. if you just want to change how much you're getting per pay check, then just change your w-2. tax bracket 24%$82,500 above = tax 19800, 62700 take home 32%$157,500 above = tax 50400, 107100 take home 35%$200,000 above = tax 70k , 130k take home 37%$500,000 above = tax 185k. 315k take home the more you work, the more take home youll get, the bigger 401k contribution, and more tax means more help you give to the US. now if you hate your primary job, i'd suggest you get a travel nursing job instead of PRN. it pays more, pretty much everything is paid by the agency. goodluck

local hiring for MOH is closed here and also what i have heard is that the batches of nurses for MOH will all be under sub-contract agencies. please clarify it with your friends and think first before giving out big amount of money. goodluck

@jurujuru -I don't have any news from Al essa agency. I heard that most of my friends resigned and got absorbed by our previous hospital. As ive told you before, al essa agency has a bad reputation.. Try to apply in ADM there in the Philippines because most of their counterpart agencies are well-known in Kuwait. Otherwise, just for the next hiring of MOH.

that is totally unfair.. ask POEA and they will tell you that only ONE month salary should be given to your agency. it would be better if you can find an agency which directly hire nurses because they offer more(320kd for private hospitals as far as i know). do not rush! when i first applied in kuwait, my salary was 250kd and i only paid 250kd for the placement fee & 15k php for the processing of visa. try other agencies.

Hi guys! I've learned a lot from this thread. I would like to ask, is it really necessary to be in a consultancy to apply as a nurse in Norway? Actually, my sister is planning to apply in Norway(Learning Norwegian Language). I already saw the requirements that are needed and she have all of them except for the proof of housing. Unfortunately, we do not have any relatives there. I was planning to just financially support her and have her rent a room/apartment during her first few months until she gets a job and be able to support herself. Thanks!

no. it is because from the 900 Indian and 300 Filipino applicants, there are still nurses in kuwait who did not finish their papers(including me). and also, i heard that the personels in kuwait prefer to hire indians because the placement fee that they give to their agency reaches to as much as 5-8k kuwait dinar and part of it is given to the nursing personnels here in kuwait. goodluck

@graceys - i am a former employee of al-essa company, now im working here as an MOH nurse. if you have not been reading any articles about this company, please start now. i used to work in a private hospital here in kuwait and resigned after my 2-yr contract from al-essa. we were around 50applicants in 2008 who made it and now only 2 are planning to stay in our previous hospital. be wary, read. do you know why it takes a long time for al essa to send their applicants? it is because they have pending lawsuits from Philippine emBassy kuwait. a lot of applicants complained about this company which lead them to change their general manager(previous was nasser mugharib or something like that). please browse, search and read the internet before applying in al essa company. good day

additional info:to those who have MAN or MSN, please be wary that including your post grad diplomas(in you CV) has its pros and cons.pros: Usually the hospital will hire you as part of either Quality Assurance or Staff Development Unit. This means that you won't be as busy as other staffs who were assigned in the floors, ER, OR etc.. You will only have morning duty which only last for 7hours. You will also get additional salary for the post grad diploma.cons: No night duty means 100kd will be deducted from your salary. You will also miss the chance of getting 50kd which is given to those who are assigned in special areas like OR/ER/ICU.. I also find it boring since most of your time will be use for paper works/ lectures and the likes.in my opinion, it is better not to include your post grad diploma in your CV. A senior(ER staff) of mine has just been transferred to SDU and his salary was cut by 30-50kd. goodluck

MOH will hire, regardless of the area, as long as you have a 3-year exp 6mos prior to their hiring date. there is a chance that your salary will be reduce or increase. some had like 30-70kd increase while others had their salary deducted by 10-140kd. if you apply for MOH, they(best-one) will definitely hire you for MOH. you should visit your agency because they are the ones who can clarify/answer all your questions. and be sure to apply as soon as possible.

two years renewable contract which actually wont expire unless you decided to resign. on the other hand, you will have to renew your civil id everytime it expires.

congrats dinx! i think we're in the same hostel! see you around and goodluck to all al ruwad pips!

dinx -yes you can use credit cards and yes you can exchange your dollars(to KD) in the airport. theysee - you are right, so bring dollar rather than peso bills. fzaq - the board of nursing only allow paid exp. if you are planning on applying in MOH then you'll have to have at least 3years of exp. if you have been training in a hospital, you can ask your headnurse to give you a COE and attach her(Headnurse) phone number. tell her, if someone from kuwait asks(which NEVER happens) her about you, to simply tell that you have already worked in that hospital. be sure, that your skills are as good or better than the years of exp that your HN have indicated in your COE. the difference between hired and trainee nurses is that hired nurses are paid while trainee nurses are the ones who pay. if you send both nurses here in kuwait, they will both undergo training which is different from the practices that we have in PH. as to my experience, sometimes, newly hired nurses(in Kuwait) are better(theoretically and actual) than their seniors. nurses here dont insert IFCs nor NGTs. for new nurses, don't feel inferior and be assertive but be sure to be respectful.

I almost forgot, be sureto bring additional money with you. Since the processing takes quite a long time, we may as well get our salary on or after december or january. It would be wise/better to bring than to ask your relatives to send money from PH to Kuwait. bring at least 300-500$ and wait for your salary before you shop for unnecessary items. some of my colleagues spent too much and now they're worried when our salary will be released. @they.see - I think ther's no INC in Kuwait, there are churches for Catholics and Born Again though. You can ask your Pastor, they know better. Most of the nurses were asigned in Al Sabbah and Farwaniya Hospital. Some are in Adan and Jahra. Rare postings are in Amiri and Mubarak. Worst(for me) possible assignment is in Police Affairs and Prison(usually those with ER exp). I was assigned in Mubarak and might be posted in eiter ER or Gastro/endoscopy area. Gastro/Endo building isnt finish yet so I might as well be posted in Wards. Gudlak and see you guys here!

hi dinx, how's your applcation? i heard that AR had a problem because both Best1 and AR are asking for 650kdplacement fee? it has been more han a month and we are still in the hostel. might be posted in Police ffairs since my experience is ER. BTW, if yu have male friends who are planning to apply this cioming deemberr, then tell them to apply in ADM(tell them i told them lol) because Mam ****(the person who handles the hiring here in Kuwait) is somewht related to the ADm staffs. as you can see, almost all of the nurses who applied here tru adm are already here. best of luck to you guys!

@violet - if ud ask me,it wud be bettr 4 ur pd 2b current since it is early 2006.. Actually,ur husband can ask his company 4 assistanc so that he can bring u and ur son in kuwait. Govt hosptals only cater those who have 3yrs exp,you may apply in private hospitals.

hi guys. Processing takes quite a long time here. Regarding subcons,dont worry coz we will all be handld by moh once we are here. I heard some nurses are schedd 4 flight tom? Anyhow, for new nurses who are planning to apply for moh, apply in adm. When we arrved here last sept,the Filipina(over all in charge) is planning to cater all the applicants. She is the owner of adm.. moms way and best1 got applcants only bcoz she gave them. With regards to salary, most of d nurses got deducted from 10-60kd. Gudluck guys! See u here in kwt!

how r u guys? Been here in salmiya 4 3 days now. The accomodation is gud n d der s free fud 4 21days. D processng of papers here s quite slow. Cant post evryday,no inet n only using my phone. Gudlak 2 all. We r here in salmiya.

just saw my plane ticket last 2010, under VIRTUS al-essa company. most probably, this is their travel agency.. is this the same as agency that hired some of you? well, you see, Al-Essa is facing a lot of complaims from our co-Filipino nurses(and yes, im one of them. lol) and with other nationalities esp Indians. they were even banned before. please read this: http://www.kuwaittimes.net/read_news.php?newsid=NDkwNjAwNTU5NQ== that man with the red cap is my friend and hostel-mate. you'll see some of the most common problems that they've given us. before i left, the general manager(**********) even asked me "why did you complain to the PH embassy when Al-Essa helps Filipinos find oppurtunities and jobs in Kuwait?" how can a ********** ask me this question? yes, it really is difficult to find a job in PH but it does not mean that we will allow them to treat us like slaves when all this manager do is Sit, Drink a cup of coffee every five minutes(lol) and eat chocolates. Just a piece of advice to you guys, please be assertive,confident and bring your common sense. it feels bad when i see newly hired nurses(indians or filipinos being mocked by arab and indian nurses). if you dont know what you will do, ask. If you are asked about something, answer, and if you dont know the answer, then ask(a lot) back lol.. so you'll have an idea. Scenario: infusion pump (actually, it is my first time to operate this brand) senior nurse: do you know how to use this? Me: a big YES(as if I know but actually,i dont know LOL). do you know how to use this? do you know why we push this button? do you know why this we need to remove air from the iv line? do you know why we give ivs through InfPump? senoir nurse: (answers all my questions giving me an idea of how the machine works). lol.. be sure to include questions wherein you know the answer so that you wont break the conversation. be friendly but dont look needy. do trust anyone esp ARABs, you might regret it. 3 days to go..

got my plane ticket. will be flying by the 21st. goodluck guys! i'll update you as soon as i get an internet connection. GL to all!

@dinx - right, to wait is all we can do. BTW, it wont be a problem, even if you have an expired visa if you're already in Kuwait(unfortunately, you'll never be able to travel to Kuwait once it expire here. the immigration section in airport will never let you). this is a problem of our agencies wherein they would have to pay a certain amount(2kd? i forgot) if we will stay in Kuwait with a cancelled visa. as ive told you guys before, processing time for a residence visa is around three months so you'll have to expect that we will stay in Kuwait for one month with a forfeited visa. @zephie - you are also right. in my experience before, i brought 300$ worth of pocket money. during my first month, i was given 25kd allowance(which was eventually cut from my salary) during the first month.. i was lucky because i was able to work 2 days upon arrival. 25kd is enough for a month(i usually spent 40-50kd after receiving my regular salary). we will not be receiving our regular salary for around 3mos(that is why i brought 300$ and some instant noodles and can goods) so be sure to bring some pocket money with you. just had my PDOS this afternoon, quite long but informative. we will be departing soon.. be patient.

@missR - yes, you can but i recommend not to apply from there directly unless you have a WASTA or know someone who has a high position. another problem that you may encounter is that, some instittions might ask you to pay them a certain amount(which is usually big) so that they will give you your release papers. it would be easier to apply to agencies here in PH since most of these agencies are related to well-known agencies there in Kuwait. GL - 8 to 9 people already got theit flight sched from ADM.. wew.. i might be travelling alone since im the last of the GE group. for those who are still waiting, visas will come soon so dont worry.

@missR - if you have more than 3tears exp then apply for ministry.. the salary that they are giving almost 3x compared to what private hospitals give.

Kuwait goverment should really be afraid, in fact, Kuwaitis only make up around 1/3 of the country's whole population. But, as you can see, this "step" might only be applicable to those "5 countries" or to arab countries. Kuwait WILL NEVER SURVIVE on its own.. Without the Indians, Filipinos and other nationals, Kuwait is like a child who has suffered famine. Yes, they are rich in oil but that is all that they have(i forgot, they are also extremely-social beings.. and that is everything they do). Females do not even know how to cut their toe nails and some would even seek doctors to do it for them. This might be a bluffing tactic by the Government because of what is happening to other arab countries and the head is afraid of being overthrowned. Nurses should not be discourage by this news, primarily because(as the news implies) Kuwait dont have enough manpower to support their Government. Another reason is their religion wherein females are prohibited of touching a man's hands.. just imagine how Female nurses will insert IVs without touching the hands. and lastly, because of their extremely-social attitudes.. (this is purely an observation with no intentions of starting a flame).

really? well, before it was 40kg + 7kg which can be hand carried. anyway, as far as i can remember, my baggage was like 20-21kg before. lol.. two sets of rubber shoes(1 plain white), clothes(shirts,pants,undies towels etc) toiletries for 1-2mos. some can goods and instant noodles.. hmm.. what else.. 2 jackets,3 uniforms.. id say, you dont have to bring fancy dresses since you'll be staying in hostel most of the time.. btw, im male so there's not much for me to bring. search in the internet and ask your agency for the max weight cap. dont forget to bring a jacket.

Tareq Company - 18 Al Bahar Company - 5 Gulf Employment Company - 18 Global Technologies for Medical Supplies and Services - 27 for ADM, they have already deployed a lot. i think im the last person in my group.. there are like 10-12 people who is for rebooking(resched of flight).. am fit to work already and my papers are already being authenticated in Kuwait Embassy PH.. Also am to attend my PDOS but im planning attend once my plane ticket arrive. dont worry, the agencies would like your plane ticket to arrive as much as you want because of the placement fee.. i already paid half(55k php) of my placement fee and 9k for authentication this afternoon. few more days and we'll be in Kuwait.