All Content by vbwise2
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What advice to give?
These students will be the type of nurses that we all hate working with the healthcare facilities. They will whine, complain, bring down morale, and be unhappy with the profession. You are correct in that when something else comes along, most will probably leave nursing. This really creates a revolving door effect in nursing. Nursing used to be a calling and a career but not anymore. As a nursing instructor, I know that it is difficult to teach students who have such "entitled" attitudes. All you can do is provide quality nursing instruction and how that some will see what a great profession nursing can be. The rest may just be doomed to failure and leave nursing (which will be a good thing).
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go to nursing school abroad or not?
you should visit the commission on graduates for foreign nursing schools website: http://www.cgfns.org/ here some information from their website. i hope this helps. credential verification service for new york state who is this service for? the following health care professionals educated outside the united states who wish to practice in new york state: registered nurses practical nurses physical therapists physical therapist assistants occupational therapists occupational therapy assistants what does this service do? the credential verification service for new york state verifies the authenticity of foreign educational and licensure credentials. in order to perform this verification you must complete: an application, a credential verification service for new york state authorization for verification of academic records/transcripts form and a credential verification service for new york state authorization for validation of registration/license form. a form is needed for each post-secondary (tertiary) school and the licensing authority that issued your first license/registration. cgfns then directly sends each post-secondary (tertiary) school and licensure authority the authorization forms you completed for verification of your attendance and licensure. the verification documents must be mailed directly to cgfns from the schools and licensure authorities. you may not forward these documents to us. for practical nurses only, proof of completing secondary school is required and this documentation can be sent from you to cgfns. after we receive verification documents from the school and licensure authorities, cgfns prepares a report and sends it to the new york state education department. this report only outlines the authenticity of the documents submitted to us. it reports only on the authenticity of your official documents, and is not an analysis or determination regarding your education’s sufficiency or whether you have met new york’s licensure requirements. you do not receive a copy of this report. check your status at https://www.cgfns.org/cerpassweb/login.jsp and if your report has been sent, your status will display “report issued”. the new york state education department evaluates your credentials. you apply directly to new york state for licensure. send new york state licensure forms to the new york state education department, not to cgfns. the new york state education department will contact you with more information about your eligibility. how do i apply?
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Are Nursing Programs Adequately Training New Graduates?
I am a nurse educator and I am currently working on my doctorate. As a nurse educator (and as a previous nurse manager), I am concerned about the knowledge and skills of our graduate nurses. I feel that nursing education has turned into a type of "assembly line" to get nurses into the field as quickly as possible. I have witnessed some actions by nurses that I know they were not taught in nursing school. Nurse managers...do you think that the new nurses being hired need better preparation and training? What do you think are the most important skills or knowledge that new nurses should have when they graduate and start working on your units?
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A question for those who teach (school setting).
I am a nurse educator and I applaude your enthusiasm and desire to obtain a graduate degree in nursing. I agree with your analysis of nursing diagnoses. I teach the use of nursing diagnoses in my classroom but the application in the clinical setting leaves much to be desired. However, I do not agree with your statement regarding care plans and here is the reason: I require care plans because it requires my students to critically think about a medical issue (at least the way I teach care plans). I feel that care plans break down the intricacies of a medical diagnosis into nursing terms that require students to not only analyze a medical diagnosis, but also to indicate nursing interventions and outcomes of their nursing actions. Also, when I examine these care plans, I am able to see how (or if) my students can critically think and problem solve. I know that they can get care plans off of the web or other books, however, they are required to explain their interventions (with rationales) to me. Also...never be afraid to speak your thoughts. However, if you disagree with instruction or instructors...do so with respect and tact.
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Nursing Students with Special Needs
Thank you, Cobweb. You have been most helpful.
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At a Loss to help Students That Won't Help Themselves, and I'm Going to Lose My Job
First, any nursing program that does not have a selection process for applicant acceptance should be closed. Your program is doomed to fail with this policy. You are expected to do a miracle with unqualified and unmotivated students. Would you want these "nurses" taking care of you and your family? I would ask that of administration. I have the reputation of being a "hard instructor" in our nursing program because I will not pass along students who have failed. I will not compromise grades or just give out points so that our school can have a high retention and pass rate. If these students do pass in your course, what about state boards? My feeling is that most will not pass and then that is another problem for your school's program...low NCLEX pass rate. Several nursing programs have closed due to low NCLEX pass rates.
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dealing with difficult students
Hi RNSuz, I posted a similar message on 28 May regarding nursing students' incivility (recommend reading it). We are having similar problems with a few students, including bullying...yep, bullying. We had a person from student affairs talk to our group of students and she was very stern about the school not tolerating bullying and incivility. I think she really scared the students. Since the talk was near the end of the semester, I will have to wait until the Fall semester to see if there are any changes in student behaviors. We will see.
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Nursing Students with Special Needs
In my doctoral class, we are discussing student diversity in America and in other countries. One of the issues discussed was the accommodation of students with special needs. I have been teaching nursing for over three years and have not (yet) been faced with accommodating special needs students. However, I feel that this may occur at any time. While we have a policy regarding acceptance of students, it is not specific enough when addressing special needs students. Do any of you have special needs students in your classes? If so, what is the extent of their needs? I am having difficulty in understanding how a nursing program could accommodate a vision impaired (blind) person, total hearing impaired person, or a person who could not lift or turn patients. What are your thoughts in this matter? Does your school have a clear policy regarding acceptance of nursing students with special needs?
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Nursing Students Incivility Towards Faculty and Other Students
There has been an increase of nursing student incivility towards faculty and other nursing students. Some forms of incivility are overt, such as arriving late for class, using cell phones or texting during class, rude or disruptive behaviors, challeging faculty credibility etc., while some forms of incivility are covert, such as rolling eyes, snickering at the instructor, etc. Uncivil and disruptive behaviors in nursing education jeopardizes the entire institution as a whole. What type of nurses are being produced if students are allowed to have rude and disruptive behaviors towards others? Will this behavior carry over into their nursing practice? Are instructors the blame for the increased incivility? Are adult students the blame? Is there a combination of several factors? At several institutions, I have been told there is also bullying of other students. More aggressive nursing students are demanding answers and information from the less aggressive nursing students...and the less aggressive students are suffering in silence. Have any other nursing instructors experienced incivility by students? How did you handle it? Is there nursing student bullying at your institution? How is bullying handled at your institution?