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Hey TraumaNurse, Can you tell me which programs your talking of that are allowing some of the CRNA courses to be taken online? I have yet to hear of such a thing as I thought the whole program was very indepth like 40+ hrs a week of lecture and clinicals in a traditional setting. I personally prefer working classes on my own and enjoy my now online studies before getting into my core classes and clinicals for my RN. Thanks!

I am not here to bash anyone for using magnets. Heck they are a huge industry and many people swear by them. However, my thoughts lay along the same lines as Charlie since I believe in science and its methods to prove or disprove that something actually works or whether its the placebo effect. I am all for the placebo effect and if your magnets allow that than go for it. Its a well documented fact that the mind triggers the same area of the brain for pain relief even if a subject is given a placebo, thus showing that if someone strongly believes in something they have the power of mind to turn on the same area of the brain that would be stimulated if they were actually given a useful drug. The mind is a very powerful thing. I do agree with Charlie that I have not personally seen any scientific studies that have been reproduced by several researchers in different scenarios that substantially prove that magnets have a positive effect other than the placebo effect. Right now I can only see inconclusive studies that are "promising". Lets not forget the self-fulfilling prochecy either. Some of you believe in magnet therapy and thats fine but its likely the placebo effect turning on an area of your brain that stimulates production of a pain relief chemical, at least that is all science has shown me so far. I am not here to confirm or deny anyones findings that use them since many things that could not be proven have now been proven and maybe that will be true in the future for magnets. Here is the link to one of the studies that was listed above. http://www.stfrancishospitals.org/DesktopDefault.aspx?ID=41672&tabindex=3&tabid=37 And yes, the findings were inconclusive but promising. Here are some quotes from that study. "However, despite this enthusiasm, there is not much in the way of reliable scientific evidence to support the use of magnets for these conditions." "In double-blind, placebo-controlled trials, static magnets have shown promise for a number of conditions, but for no condition is the evidence conclusive." "One study shows the general difficulties to be met in determining the benefits of treatments for pain conditions. This double-blind, placebo-controlled study of 30 people with carpal tunnel syndrome found that a single treatment with a static magnet produced dramatic and long-lasting benefits. However, identical dramatic benefits were seen in the placebo group. Thus, this study supports other trials that found placebo treatment quite effective for the treatment of pain, but provides no evidence for the effectiveness of magnets per se."

Laughing Gas....What school are you attending in Ohio? I too live in Ohio for the time being and would love to know what program your attending here as this may be a permanent move for us in the future. I, of course, have a long way to go to get there but hey, just nice to know my options for good programs in the future :) Good luck and boy do you have your hands full...I have a 4 and 3 yr old!

Thanks so much! I have a great love for OB and will be spending alot of my time there I think during my RN years. I know I need at min. a yr. in an ICU to qualify for the CRNA programs but I think in the long run I would love to specialize more in the OB field. I really appreciate your answer.

I was just wondering if it was a possibility to specialize in one area of your choice as an CRNA. I realize it will highly depend on the position choosen. What I am asking, I guess, is it unheard of to specialize in say OB and do only epi's, sections, etc.? Just wondering if all CRNA's just work an array of cases daily depending on the position/hospital or if some do veer off and do more of one type of case as their daily position? Thanks in advance!

Well, as inappropriate as it was, my Christian mother failed God that day LOL Lets just say a few choice words to "superwoman"(ch. res.ob) and that doc was red in the face and quickly searching for the dr. of aneth! She doesnt regret it either. While no one deserves to be talked to like that, she was none to kind to my mother and given the amount of pain I was in and the marks in my forehead getting more and more imbedded (I was laying on my left side hanging on to the rail with my face smashed to it, I couldnt move) my mom was freakin and couldnt take anymore. Mind you this is after we were told there were 3 sections ahead of me and it would be another 45 min before my epi. We all found that unreasonable that given my history of events and having been on pit for a long time that they couldnt find one dr. of aneth or a CRNA to do my darn epi like stat! After my moms choice words the dr. of aneth. was there in less than 15!

Thanks so much for your compassion and understanding. I dont know why after all these years I am still not past it. This thread is making me feel better hearing from you all. For so long I have battled with anger and hate and just need to relent and move on. What should have been the best experience of my life turned out to be the most awful because of the pain. Thank you for letting me vent and finally try to put closure to such a difficult subject. Call me sappy but im crying....but I think its good its making me feel better. I think its a very good idea that I once-and-for-all get my medical records and go over them with my OB. I need to have things explained to me and have some things sorted out. You are very right, alot of it probably doesnt make sense because it was so traumatic, so forgive me for "not making sense" to you in the L&D field. PS: I was told they took a piece of my cervix because I was pre-term. I was told it was standard procedure to do it in all their pre-term cases.

Thanks so much that makes more sense. I just remember not feeling anything...no trickle no nothing and thinking there must not be alot of fluid in there LOL. Boy was I an uneducated mom/patient or what? This experience makes me think I will always explain every process to a patient so they understand and have a say in their experience. I am not here to save the world or anything but at least I can help them understand whats going on in lament terms in their world. Thanks so much....I feel better knowing you all see the errors and that my feelings arent unjust. Man I love this board!:blushkiss

Thats the part I dont understand. I never had any flow until the OB who delivered me broke my water. Then it was a flood and I clearly knew it had been done. He never came out with an electrode on his head nor did I ever see anything that was reading him???? Except the monitor on my belly. The 1st yr said she was going to put it in after she put my internal monitor for my contractions but I have no clue if she every really did. I am all for teaching hospitals but its clear the Teachers need to be present in these situations. Could she have still put in an int. mon. for contractions with a full bag of water? Is it possible to have ?two? bags of water?

Ok....its been 4.5 yrs since I gave birth to my first, a boy, but I still pain over my experience all the time. I would love to hear from you experienced L&D nurses what you think should have happened so I can finally feel validated that they didnt do right by me. Pre-labor quicky: Lots of preterm contractions and tons of pelvic pressure around 30 weeks. Appt. with OB at 32 weeks and she about dropped on the floor after I begged her to give me a vag exam just to see what was going on. 22 yrs old, first baby, 32 weeks, 4 centim. She looked at me in disbelief and said you are still walking around???? After checking my chart/ultrasounds (I had several from 1st tri) she said OK, Go home, do nothing, keep hydrated very well, and I will see you next week! Delivery: 36 weeks hit and that was it....he WAS NOT staying in. Check in and find out my normal OB is on vaca....great! I get to be delivered by someone I have never seen before but o'well. In triage the chief resident ob checks me ( I still call her superwoman....gawd her hands were huge and she was not gentle in any sense of the word) and decides they need to take a piece of cervix for exam(I am going into my first year of nursing school this semester so I dont know what thats called?) and I almost fell off my bed from the pain. Im put in a room and ready to roll. IV done etc.....voided after put in my room. 3 hrs pass im now 5 cnm, 50%, -3 station (if I remember correctly) and no change. 1st yr res comes in to break my water. After 20 minutes and alot of pain and bleeding she proclaims "I had to have gotten it by now". Yeah, those are words to live by. 2 more hrs no change. They decide to put me on pit. Im upped by 6 every 20 min. They tell me to lay down and rest and they will be back in a couple of hrs. My nurses check on me and say well your getting in a better pattern we should start seeing some change in the next few hrs. They put in internal monitors for both the baby and my contractions. I have been checked only once by the 1st yr resident and told I could no longer get up to void. hrs pass no change and pit is still going....I was on pit for over 6 hrs with no change is this normal??? havent voided since they put in my internal monitors. Doc who delivers me comes in and does a vag exam......VIOLA.....whats that?????? someone didnt what???? My water hasnt been broken yet????? So what was the "I must have gotten it by now speel"???? After that I was in so much pain I cant explain to any of you. My internal monitor for my contractions was in the 220's and I felt like my whole body was being torn in half. The flood gates had been opened and I had gone ALL NATURAL until that point. Not because I was being "stoic"sp? but because I didnt need it. My hubby, sister, mom, and MIL were all bawling as I writhed in pain and with each massive contraction. After 45 minutes of begging my mom in a barely there voice to please do something "Superman"(chief res ob) came in and my mom had words with her. She was not very kind to my mom and said she will be fine...women give birth maam every hour of every day. She will live. She contacted Dr. of Aneth. for my epi. That was a whirlwind and he tried his darndest to get me that stuff fast! My absolutely wonderful and glorious L&D RN (who was Jamaican...god I loved that woman!) Spoke to me kindly as I went through it with her great accent. He looked at me and said...roll over and I will get your meds on board. I cried and said "I am sorry but I pushed....is that ok?" He immed. looked at my RN and said page the dr. 911 and proceeded to say its too late. No meds darlin your going to have a baby. Well that epi was for naught as I never got relief. I tried to push but I couldnt. Hadnt anyone realized I needed to void???? The doc did immediately so I could proceed to push and immediately began telling me how sorry she was. They took off over 1900 cc's! The doctor told me its was almost the equivalent to a 2 liter of pop and the most she had ever seen at one time. I paid dearly for that oversight. My son came flying out in a short 15 minutes after that with his own complications for months. I still think if they had broke my water I would have never gone through that pain or trauma. My daughter was born in 1.5 hrs very easily. Am I justified in feeling that I was done very very wrong? And could I have done anything differently or not? Thanks for reading my long story. I really needed educated people to read it and get it off my chest. I plan on spending alot of time in L&D after getting my RN before going for my CRNA. I dont blame any of my nurses for the oversight....however I blame the 1st yr res. and the dr. who should have been behind her making sure my water was broken. Please tell me this doesnt happen all the time????

Cori can you tell us what your previous college education is so we might understand how your getting done so quickly via U o P? 1yr and 1 month is outstanding. What did they base that on...credits alone or experience and credits or what? Enlighten us as I am sure others are eager to know how your finishing so quickly :) In the meantime I will surf there and check it out. I have yet to do my first year but hey I like to plan ahead so this is great.

HI all Now that I have decided to get my education in nursing I would like your suggestions in how I should go about it. I have yet to start my journey and am talking with an admissions counselor at my local college who has her MSN but I want your opinions. Should I : Do my one year in traditional setting and get my LPN Continue my education by LPN 2 BSN via online (clinicals are required but are allowed through this college in your own state) BSN 2 CRNA via U of M 2 yr NA program Or: Do my two year in a traditional setting and get my RN Continue by RN 2 BSN via online with an accelerated course that likely doesnt require clinicals given the rn experience and only takes two years BSN 2 CRNA via U of M 2 yr NA program Could you tell me any other way you would do it or why you would choose one way over the other. I am just for the online portion because of having two kids that I need to be home for and would be much better off doing it that way and like those types of programs. I realize I need my clinical teaching etc. and of course experience but how would you approach it with a young family and a person who likes online courses? Thanks for any input I really appreciate it. Keep in mind I am considering CRNA but of course alot of things change. Who knows as an RN I may get into L&D and just love it since I am a baby freak and decide to stay right there! But CRNA is my ultimate goal at this point.

Since I am just starting on my journey to becoming a CRNA, I wondered if anyone knew of any online lpn programs? I am just starting off older and married with kids so it would be much easier to do my course work at home via puter and go into a place to do my clinicals. I have already found a college close to home and have been talking with them about starting soon but wondered if anyone had come across a true program that is accredited. This is my plan ..... LPN at MCC or ?online? LPN 2 BSN Online via ISU (clinicals in state - coursework via puter) BSN 2 CRNA via U of M's 2yr NA program Any suggestions or comments are welcomed.