mato_tom

AAs will take a MDA supervised job in the big city to replace a CRNA.... then the CRNA can go the the rural area to work unsupervised. the key question is...what % of jobs are MDA supervised....we all know CRNA do not require supervision, but how many work under supervision. let me rephrase that..........what % of crna jobs could be replaced by AAs.

all about the benjamins and there is nothing wrong with various healthcare providers protecting or expanding their turf thru legal channels....its the nature of the bizness and its all about money and if you hear the association heads and lawyers that throw crap out like pt safety and access and this and that just remember to read b/w the lines and look for the dollar signs.....

any data on % of cases for CRNAs that ARE medically directed by an MDA?

how much lobbying power does the AMA have? are you kidding? AAs and CRNAs will not be prevented from practicing. CRNAs will keep what they got unless there is a rash of deaths/injuries, which based on many years of practice is not going to happen. AAs will gain state licensure in more and more states beginning with florida. Schools and MDAs will start new programs to increase the supply. CRNAs and MDAs will battle on the scope of practice for AAs and the supervision levels required. I admit to knowing very little about the application of anesthesia and the role of each profession,,,,but from what i gather it has been made very safe and even the ASA admits that MDAs are overtrained/overeducated for some of the routine processes that occur during surgery, which is why they want to have an assistant, that they can bill for, be there. the key to the million dollar question, which is what will happen to CRNA salaries is, as usual, a simple supply and demand issue. what % of cases to CRNAs do solo vs supervised by an MDA -- i would really like to know these numbers, but cannot find them. how many educators are available to stock AA programs?

non - nurse here, but intersted in the profession and the issues...... what exactly is mandatory overtime? if asked to stay for an extra hour when your shift is up and you refuse ..is that grounds for termination? at this time do you get paid extra for OT? time and 1/2 or what? is OT based on 36 or 40 hours? what will happen if the new labor laws concerning OT go into effect, does that mean you will not get paid extra for OT? i ve just started looking into nursing for a career, but from what i see and hear ...i dont know. How is it that such a large profession, has such a weak voice. What % of nurses are members of the ANA and is the ANA a total joke or what? I realy think its going to take a 180 degree turn in attitude of the avg nurse for things to improve....its all well and good and warm and fuzzy that the patient must come first and you do this job so you can help people and blah blah blah......but you are getting screwed, how can you help people when you are miserable at work and stressed out. With such massive numbers i dont see how nurses cannot get thier voices heard, except that perhaps the woman dominated profession is just too passive.

i know a year or more of CC is required for CRNA school, which is a very good idea, but.............. i have worked in a hospital and have a lot of contact with med surg nurses and not so much with critical care........i like everything about the role and education of the CRNA but im not sure i could last a year or two + if CC is anything like regular floor nursing. this is a serious question...... what are the day to day hour by hour duties of a CCU nurse, other than the meds and monitoring and skilled work........... is there a lot of butt wiping and linen changing involved...ive heard there is less CNA and LPN support in CC and the RN takes on everything......i have no problem with stress of life and death, no problem and lots of experience dealing with docs, and families, ability to stay out of floor/unit squabbles(seems to be prevalent in floor nursing) but i do try to avoid as much as possible other peoples bodily functions and excretions..... any comments welcome..................thanks

the AA boards dont because there is not enough of them,,but the MDA boards sure do......in florida there is a fast track bill to license AAs just like there has been every year for along time.....more than likely it will pass eventually. The anesthesia pie is a big one that the MDAs want more of......its not about safety or access or anything is about money and politics and the battleground is in state and fedral governement and the bullets are dollars and time given to your association......... two questions I have: i know the CRNAs have more autonomy but when i look at gasworks under job descriptions it seems the majority of positions say they will be under the direction of an MDA 100% of the time............how would the role of an AA and CRNA differ in this scenario? Honest question that i dont know the answer to How hard wold it be to make AA a specialization of PA or intergrate AA into PA schools.... i would assume that all that is missing is facilites and educators, big stuff i know, i would guess the MDAs and AMA would be willing to foot some of the bill for this stuff. I have not gone back to read the various threads on AA's but i would hope that the prevailing opinion of CRNAs is that the "threat" is real.

whats the difference? not arguing, just learning

definatley program specific...i sent out 10 e mails to various programs stating i had a&p, gen chem, physics all a's 10 years ago and wanted to know if i should retake....so far 1 said no....waiting on the rest but other schools have "within 5 years" written into their admissions requirements online call and ask or risk wasting time and money

very much..thank you

thanks for the info, this is really a board loaded with good stuff. There is quite a lot of differences b/w programs, some do not even mention any chemistry, some require the general chem sequence, organic chem and biochem, oh well. the big question now is if i can jump right into organic after having the general chem sequence 10 years ago, anybody ever attempted this? I emailed my university chem dept to get their opinion,, i would hate to take chem 1 and 2 over again...more time more money....anyhoo thanks for the responses.

hey there ..I stumbled across your forum last night and was up to 5 am reading various threads....excellent information here anyway some "stuff" that i did not see addressed that i wanted to get input..... background info: i am taking prereqs for an accelerated BSN and hope to start the BSN next summer i have a BS in PT...have taken all the science pre reqs 10 years ago including chem and physics sequence, anatomy/physiology my questions: in your experience with the various CRNA programs ..is there a time limit on the science pre reqs..... should i repeat them due to time elapsed(have As in them) has anyone in a similar situation been able to take, say, organic or biochem several years after having last taken the chem sequence what other courses are recommended if taking the chemistry sequence again is not a good idea is there any chemistry "refresher" tool/course that would spark my memory and prepare me for the advanced chem courses that you know of. are ICU and critical care nurse positions available for the new grad BSN? thanks for any info