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While working in a longterm care facility I had a colostomy bag of a known GI bleeder explode on me (of course it was full) so while some have baptism by fire I had baptism by .........

Our first date involved cadavers and colostomy bag explosions. We frequently incorperate urine and romance in the same conversation.We are pro's at untying scrub pants with our teeth.:redbeathe

Thank you.I already am an advocate.This issue is both personal and professional to me.

Thank you for your honesty.Your comment wasn't the one I was referring to. I am not being fecicious however I do not think that you can place more value on one person than another.I think patient care and staff safety are equally important.No I do not think you can negotiate your way out of EVERY situation.However I do not think the use of force is always the answer either. The mentally ill are often forgotten,misunderstood and mistreated in society.My concern is the rate that tasers are being utilized in these situations are on the rise. If any of you have a loved one who is mentally ill would you all want them tasered multiple times if no ones life was in immediate danger?

It truly isn't "an us or them" situation.It is a how do we as healthcare professionals give optimum care to our patients.I have never been in a situation requiring a taser.It just seems to becoming a common practice. Honestly the "us or them" mentality concerns me more than the taser.

Many facilities will hire you in the capacity of a CNA while you are a nursing student.Check with area hospitals and longterm care facilities.

My apologies.I am opened to suggestions.However I felt as if I was attacked from reply number one which makes me defensive.So what alternative methods are available to tasers?

Finally someone who understands what I am saying.OK to all you who have answered.Any alternitive suggestions.

40 is a great age to go back to school.I am 46 and working on my BSN.I am more focused now.Most facilities now hire male nurses.There is a major market for nurse/marketers.So your background can be an asset.Best of luck.

25 yr nurse no serious injury.I certainly am not dead.If you wish to state a point fine.But most are character assaults which are unprofessional and juvenile.If all you can do is attack me do not bother answering.

Thank you elpark.If a staff member is in immediate danger then yes force is necessary.BUT I do not think it should be a taze first then ask questions world.I as an individual nurse still believe "Patient first.":heartbeat not myself

For the record it was used by hospital security not law enforcement.So I should have stated does hosp. security have the authority.My error please accept my apology

I appriciate everyones response.However having dealt with mentally ill patients for 20 + years and worked closley with law enforcement a taser has never been used. The incident I referred to did not mention any staff being in danger.I question if "tasering" isn't used prematurley before other methods that have worked are utilized.

Have you given consideration to the military reserves.It offers wonderful and exciting opportunities.

There have been two incidents where patients with know mental conditions were tasered multiple times.This occurred at two different area hospitals.One of the patients died.The autopsy ruled that he died of natural causes.According to the police report this patient was combative.He died from bilateral PE.I question how combative someone with bilateral PE's could be.I would like everyones opinion on the use of tasers to control a patient.Who should make the call medical personel or law enforcment.? Thanks