roxannej_rn

I hate that you are suffering that and, one does suffer when they don't have the support of loved ones. You follow your heart and your dreams. You don't just have to stop at an RN but can become a PA or Nurse Practitioner and even a Nursing educator. Best wishes to you as you reach for your goals and dreams.

No, it's the same; that's why I suggested that if a CNA needs to know something about their patient they can look it up themselves even in the hard copy/chart. As a RN student, I saw that the RN's don't have time to tell their CNA's everything about their patients nor do they have time to explain why they need to do their jobs. The charge nurse nor the doctor explains to the staff RN why they have to do what they ask, the RN just does it. RN's rarely have time to get a lunch-where I did my clinicals let alone explain themselves to their CNA's. If the doctor tells the RN he/she needs an ABG stat, or in an hour, the nurse does it. Besides, when I worked in a LTF, I knew my residents for the most part because they are there for a long time and really never had to have my charge nurse tell me I needed to do something unless it was a new-stat order from the doctor.

Sorry Morte, meant for it to be to for Diaper. My sincere apologies. Kudos, my mom either.

Sorry!

Yes, that is right but, you do not have to know why things are ordered only that they are. Even as an RN, when a doctor orders a blood panel or such like things, the RN usually only confirms the order if it is questionable because a recent draw was performed and results are available. My point is, no matter what service we are in, we do not have the right to question the orders of our superiors unless they harmful, unethical and such like reasons. I have been in one of the biggest hospitals in the US and I have yet to see the RN report off to a CNA. RN's report off to RN's and then the RN advises the CNA of anything he or she may need and when they need it. If the CNA is too busy and they cannot get what was ordered ASAP, then it is the duty of the RN to obtain. If the CNA says they will do, it is the responsibility of the RN to follow up and ensure those orders were followed through. And although you need to know everything the patient needs, you do not need nor is it required, from what I understand, for a CNA to know the medical diagnosis or even know the complete hx of a pt.

You can do this and you are off to a good start by relying on God and answered prayers. You made it through the class and trust me, people make more of it than they really should-just remeber, you know this stuff so don't let it intimidate you. If you find a question that you do know, think like a nurse, what are they asking you to do, what are the key words, and does the other answers make sense. Best of Wishes

I have the Kaplan book 2009 ed. that I would be happy to send you but it's for the NCLEX-RN and I don't think we can share private info over this site. It does give strategies on how to pass the test but the truth is if you don't know the answer, it's just an educational guess; I found through my studies that either the longest or the shortest answer is correct most of the time but that doesn't really ensure choosing the right answer because then you are down to deciding which one seems right and if you have no idea it's a 50/50 chance. As to when you are able to retake-my friend failed the NCLEX-RN and has a 45 day waiting period before she can re-apply. You probably need to contact your state bon and whichever testing company you used. Best wishes in your endeavor.

I agree 100%

I think you're way off u70324. I do not see any sign of an ego problem but a problem with those who are trying to undermine her authority and take advantage of the situation. I think she is doing way too much. The lic that you speak of is exactly what gives her authority to direct and ensure completion of those under her. Although the RN will find times she must perform a task listed under the responsibility of a CNA, it should not be happening daily and as often as it seems javamama98 is experiencing.

On a further note, a CNA does not need to know what is going on with the patient in order to do their job nor do they need a reason to empty a cathater or anything else when asked. Furthermore, the RN is not obligated to explain any action taken on behalf of a patient to a CNA. If the CNA desires to know what is going on with a patient then he/she should look that information up in the chart if the facility and time allows for that. The charge nurse is never to be undermined by the CNA and if the employee has a complaint that they cannot settle with a Supervisor, then there is always a superior authority that they can go to and complain. I'm not sure where you received your CNA but I took my class some 20 years ago and was taught that I&O is routine in LTF and that there is always a reason if it's ordered. I believe that thoughts and ideas such as these is why we are having such problems in our work place that JavaMama98 is complaining about.

Well, gramatically speaking yes, but I say my kids, my school, my this and that, but it is but a figure of speach and not that I own them. I use to say my workers when I was an office manager but, we're not talking about grammatics we're talking about dealing with CNA's who for whatever reason do not want to do their work; whether that be laziness or burn out-just as I often hear RN's experience. I actually appreciate it when someone referred to me as "my" I accept that as being respected and protected. My opinion only of course.

Morte, you said, "The CNA really appreciated for my mom's help because it showed that they're both equal." Please understand that I am not degrading you mother but perhaps she is underming herself and her position. It sounds if she desires to be their friend more than their boss. A RN and a CNA are in no wise equal. I worked and studied hard plus paid a lot of money to become a RN and would be offended if others thought of me as an equal to a CNA-on a professional level. We are not the same and it is our responsibility, in whatever setting, to ensure they are doing their jobs and that we are first and foremost, Patient Advocates and our patients and their well being are our main concerns.

Kudos, and I'll relocate. Wonder if they're hiring other new grads. We could apply!

I've actually thought about relocating myself to get a new grad job-if I could find one. I'm just about willing to go to Alaska if I have to. I cannot wait much longer because I graduated in may and there are more surrounding schools that will have new grads in Dec.

Amen!