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Hello, For those who interviewed for these new grad positions , how did you find out about the openings? What were they listed as? Also, could you give me a lil of your background- ADN or BSN? Did you apply as an internal or external candidate? ( Were you working in another position at kaiser prior?) I've been working at kaiser (not as an RN) for more than 5 years, am a new grad, & was told internals get first dibs but I've had no luck after applying to about 20 new grad positions in n. Cali. I was told there are hundreds of internal candidates who apply for the new grad positions. Im curious of how this works in so. cal. so do please share! Congrats to those offered positions btw! Thank you :) -V

Hey All, I graduated with my ADN May 2012 , became licensed in August 2012, and have had no luck with jobs. I decided to pursue my BSN to make use of my time while job hunting. I'm worried that by the time I get my BSN (expected December 2013) I won't qualify for new grad programs anymore since it will be a year and four months since I became licensed & and a year and seven months since my graduation from the ADN program. I understand it will depend on what hospitals consider 'new grad' but just want to hear if anyone has any insight/experience with this..

RNlou- Are you referring to Tele or ER?

Hey all.. Has anyone heard back from the ED yet?

I studied this in my RN-BSN program. If you read up on the Institute of Medicine's report of the Future of Healthcare, there are certain goals that have been set (along with the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation) to change the face of nursing to be prepared to beter serve the needs of the public in the future. One of the 'goals' or 'recommendations' is that a certain amount (I believe 80%..correct me if I'm wrong it's been awhile since I read the report..) of RNs have BSNs by 2020 (again, if I have the year wrong, correct me.) Other goals in this report include that nurses are actively involved in decision making when it comes to healthcare policies, as well as are able to practice to their full extent of training and knowledge. With this said, this is why they are pushing for more nurses to have higher education- to be forefront leaders in healthcare in the future. I think we have to remember the reason why there are ADN programs. ADN programs were created when there was a severe shortage of nurses in the US. This was made so that the shortage could be easily "fixed" and students could get in and out of school as quickly as possible to work. Now with the over flow of new grads and economy limiting available job opportuntiies, hospitals can be picky. I think now that there is a preference for BSNs at most hospitals, and the "future of healthcare" is pushing for higher education - one major FLAW in the world of nursing is that there is no streamlined education to become an RN. With LVN-RN, ADN, ADN-BSN, ETC...it was helpful in the past, but now maybe they should fix that. If they are going to require nurses to have BSNS in the future, and if htey are NOT going to hire ADNS, then nursing needs to provide ADN nurses with enough RN-BSN programs that are affordable and available OR provide more BSN programs as a whole. I am currently in an RN-BSN program. From what I've learned during my program search, they are just as impacted as other nursing programs. Most of the nurses in the US are ADN nurses..we need more programs/space available/financial support..if there's going to be this expectation to return to school. Programs are limited and financial resources to return to school. I think ADN programs should inform their students of all this info...so they know where they will stand ahead of time after graduation.

I have a few thoughts on this. For those saying they feel bashed for having a BSN, I'm sorry you feel that way. Of course education is never a bad thing! But as an ADN graduate..I feel bashed all the time. It is SO frustrating when you're overlooked for not having your BSN yet having took the same board exam, same amount of clinical hours, etc. I was on the phone with the recuriter at a hospital I have been working at for over 5 years. She was excited for my graduation and shared new grad program information with me but once I told her I was an ADN grad and not a BSN, things automatically changed. She told me to check in when I had the BSN. I've been a loyal employee for so long that it felt like a slap in the face! Some ADN nurses are ADN nurses because of the impaction of nursing schools, not because they don't want to have more education. I had over 100+ college units coming INTO the ADN program. I had my associates already and had all the prerequisites to qualify for a BSN program- just couldn't get in one due to impaction. As a result, I now have two associates degrees when i could have my bachelor's. Many other people I know in my ADN program already had bachelor's degrees in other fields but their previous education is overlooked because it is not a BSN. I am currently in an RN-BSN program and it is ridiculously easy compared to the ADN program I was in. Because of this I am very happy of the ADN education I had. I feel it taught me so much and never a day do i regret my decision to go to a CC for nursing. The whole magnet status things is a joke. My instructor who has her PH.D was saying the whole reasoning behind it all is marketing and money. So I can agree that IS not fair. I asked the nursing director at a local major hospital her thoughts on this. She said it is ridiculous and prefers ADN nurses because they tend to have stronger clinical skills, yet BSN is what the market is pushing for.

Hey all! Saw this and thought I should pass it along. I graduated 8 months ago and the job market here (Caliifornia) is horrible for new grads! I've heard many other places have similar situations. This could make a difference for future nurse graduates.

Billh5000 i believe after open house there are three.. That's if the dept you're interviewing is following the same process as the ED. :)

edithjg, do you have any tips for someone going in for a second interview? im applying for 2013 cohort & have no idea what to expect with the scenario questions..super anxious but want this so bad! I've been looking for almost a year and really need to help my family out.. any suggestions/tips? ~Vee

Did you happen to hear back from the ED for a 2nd interview? I'm going in for my 2nd and super nervous. Haven't heard back from any other unit.. good luck on your next interivew on the 15th @ med/surge! :)

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Is anyone else going into the 2nd interview for the ED? If so, how are you preparing & do you know what to expect? I'm so nervous! All I know is it'll consist of clinical scenarios..45 minutes of that kinda freaks me out!! Trying to prepare yet feel so unprepared. ~Vee

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I haven't heard from anyone but the ED. I applied to three units..Ed, L&D, Tele, & Medsurge.

Hi All, I realize this post is old but thought I'd try anyway! I'm going in for my second interview pretty soon and am sooo nervous!! Can any of you who interviewed or got hired @ dameron share some insight please? I know it will consits of clinical scenarios but not sure how deep / complicated they will be and I'm kinda, sorta, really..nervous! any info will be greatly appreciated! This job search has been so hard and I want/need this so badly! ~Vee