middleager

I think what he is saying is sexism is viewed differently when the perp is a male than when it is a female. One of the previous comments was (paraphrased) Inappropriate comments are wrong anytime...can you now understand how women feel about men bei...

I could not agree more. Most of what I experienced teaching JA were harmful stereotypes and of course being gay was one of them. Don't get me wrong, I have no issue what so ever with homosexuality, fully understand the gay community has it's own ch...

I agree, that was my experience when I was doing a JA class in a local high school. Some of the same social stigma that keeps the number of females in engineering keep males from considering nursing. The question becomes what to do about it, and I ...

I agree, the comment implying one gender or the other has more personality problems, more or less behavior issues, or is more or less qualified has no place in these conversations because they are ridiculous

I agree 100% that the efforts should be at breaking down stereotypes, PR, perhaps recruiting into the profession is acceptable but it has to come down to whom is the most qualified. Nursing is literally a life and death profession, picking a less qu...

Well Elkpark they are the same barriers that prevent females from being represented in any number in Silicon Valley, on Police forces, etc. Barriers do not have to be physical, they do not have to be prohibitive, they can be societal. Long after th...

Understood, I found the statement to be pointless as well. The profession is constantly at the top of the most trusted, 90% of nurses are female...it makes one think the obvious conclusion is someone is doing something right most of the time. But s...

Well actually the history in men in nursing goes back to the Civil War when men were not allowed to be nurses as they needed soldiers to fight, and by the early 1900's most nursing schools allowed only females to enter. The Army & Navy Nursing C...

I find the comments challenging the OP why would there be a need to encourage males due to diversity or balance interesting. I remember distinctly when I was in college the effort to bring females into med schools to be MD's for exactly those same r...

I find the comment "If you don't like it don't work here, but don't judge us" to be a bit self serving or perhaps dismissive. People are judged every day. We all judge people and their actions daily. When you sit down at a table for dinner at a n...

Oh and Esme, I really appreciate your taking the time to correspond. I originally came to this site when I was considering a mid life occupation change. I ended up not doing it but am fascinated with what you all do. If I had it to do over and co...

Esme12 while we tend to think equal rights means we are the same (between genders). I don't believe that is the case. While we discussed if the genders were reversed there would likely be a lawsuit, honestly neither of us took it as sexual harassme...

Interesting dissection of Banterings conversation. The history of male MD's dominating the field is well known as well as women's struggles in general for equal treatment. It continues at some level today. I know a couple of men whom are RN's and ...

Esme12, thanks for the comments and clarification. I really think these discussions could be very productive if both "sides" could communicate on a more rationale level. The lack of discussion often leads to unneeded suffering, accusations, and ani...

The hard part about electronic exchanges is it is hard to read intent at times. I am having a little difficulty grasping your thought here Esme12 but I think we are close to being on the same page just speaking a little different language. I would ...

Let me play devils advocate, it is what it is while maybe not acceptable is understandable. While we may get a little self righteous and demand others, in this case nurses stand up and fight for right, we all at times compromise our ethics because i...

Karou, I am not sure since your comment came after mine if you think I am a multiple, if so I can assure you I have a single account, and as far as I know do not have a split personality...but I will check with my alter ego to confirm. Small attempt...

Oh and I could not agree more, I get so tired of the condemning all providers & officers for the actions of a very very few, it is ridiculous. On one hand some posters condemn for labeling all male suspects, then respond with examples like Dr. ...

Esme12, I really do appreciate your honest and candid response. I think you hit the issue on the head "I am governed by hospital policy...." The fact that you recognize and more importantly are willing to disclose it says a great deal about the str...

SionainnRN I was referring to a comment made by Esme12 back on page 2(?). "Yes there isa double standard for female patients will get a female officer called for that officer to be female...males get whomever...it is what it is". I really am not tr...

After reading the 8 pages of comments there is a lot digest. I question some of the accounts as well, understand perspective plays a lot in interpetation, sometimes we embelish to make our point. One thing however is present in many of the posts is...

I have to agree, I find focusing on semantics to be a reach, terms like the "good old boys", "old boys club" etc are used all the time. I do however have to agree referring to women as "catty" or equating "drama" to females as if it is exclusive do...

Does anyone else feel like breaking out in a round of the song "Why can't we be friends, why can't we be friends". Bias is wrong, that simple, always was, always will be,

dudette if we were talking about the past I would agree with you 100%. I have two grown daughters, while I witnessed sexism to the point where I took my corporate attorney to a school board meeting to explain title 9 to them I can confidently say ne...

And that is the double standard I was referring to. Affirmative action is needed and justified for females to rectify the past but it is wrong for males. Of course at one time males were discouraged or prevented from becoming nurses, during WWII fo...