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i have also been reading the threads there, and I do know some of the people there personally..the problem with our pd dates is that it is so near (2005-early 2006) yet anything can happen. the PDs could move forward or not. some of them have been documentarily qualified three times, and that is a bit frustrating. and we were filed at a time when there were not as much applicants as compared to today.. three years ago the economy was good, late 2007 and 2008 saw a sudden downhill trend. how can you explain to newly grads/applicants that their petition will take years when recruiters continue advertising false statements, saying that they can beat retrogression, etc. what this forum has said and keeps on saying is the reality in the US. i'm not saying don't apply to the US, just don't expect the US to give you jobs anytime soom, don't complain that you've been waiting for retrogression to end to move on with your plans. people even use canada as a stepping stone to eventually go to the US, and Canada has a good healthcare system.

you will find it hard to apply as an RN in dubai since DOHMS will require a minimum of three years experience...

if an applicant nurse has everything in place already and is just waiting for their priority dates to be current, i would strongly advise them to look at working at another country right now. some people are made to believe just because you have all your papers in place, you can easily wait for your GC, when in reality it will take years. these people will delay going to other countries or committing to other contracts because they fear that their PD will become current while they're still under contract or in another country, and i know a lot of people who have done this..they have been delaying a lot of things just waiting for the PD to be current.. that's why the point of soooo many people here who advise others not to expect much from the US is valid and should be heeded. these people are actually in teh US and have years of experience...

it is not common practice for filipino nurses to follow up on their patients even in the philippines, unless ordered by the doctor. where did he get this idea?! i do think that patient confidentiality is a worldwide rule. as they say, when in Rome, do as the Romans do. These nurses have undergone lots of orientation already. Such a pity!

don't you also need to have a local license?

the actual rhythm strips on monitors really look hard to recognize sometimes especially if you're new.where's the p? how wide is QRS? is there a u wave? it was all so confusing. my acls course had a ECG rhythm course as well and that's where I learned to differentiate the different rhythms. Try taking up an ACLS course or ECG course

not trying to discourage you, but here are a few links of people who have tried to apply for visit/tourist visa for SEC/CRNE and got denied... https://allnurses.com/forums/f75/nursing-job-bc-canada-331594.html https://allnurses.com/forums/f75/filipino-migrate-canada-what-do-become-rn-220413-6.html https://allnurses.com/forums/f75/visa-sec-assessment-canada-283229.html

there are those that use their tourist visas thinking that they can get ahead of the long line of nurses waiting to get visas. shame on those employers that hire these nurses without proper visas

so is MRSA contact or airborne precaution or both?

there is one hospital in texas which has a tie-up agency here in the philippines. somehow they are able to send nurses to the US on h1b visas (non-cap)even if the nurses have few months experience only. its very tempting...and they have been doing this for a certain period of time. none of the nurses they've deployed have had any problems.

despite recession, retrogression, the healthcare industry is still number one in hiring.. http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/career-articles-a_2008_retrospective_in_career_data_resources-562;_ylt=AiyPAT8X4XbblIgRLXFNZHbZn414:yeah:

Yes, it should state for travel abroad - Saudi Arabia.

Not sure about POEA, but normally if placement is done through POEA, no placement fee is collected. Placement fee through agencies will be equivalent to one month's salary. Some agencies require you to pay the full amount before you leave, others do salary deduction. Some will add 12% vat to this. Medical is done through a GAMCA accredited clinic. Payment is done directly to the clinic, p2700. Agencies do not and should not collect medical fees. DFA authentication of tor, diploma then stamped by Saudi embassy. It will depend on the agency whether they will include the embassy stamping fee in your placement fee or separate from this. Yes, if applying thru Saudi-MOH, this is a big group, you will not know which hospital you will be assigned to immediately. However, if through agencies, they must provide the name of the employer. You will sign a contract which will state the name of the hospital and your salary. This contract will be submitted to POEA for processing, and sometimes (usually first-timers) will have to show this contract at the ofw area at the airport. Be careful if an agency cannot give you the name of a hospital. Because you might be assigned to far flung places or small clinics where most people don't want to go to, or worst get a bad employer who won't pay your wages on time.

what is your nationality? what passport do you hold? middle east countries base the salaries on your nationality. westerners (including western passport holders) have the highest salaries while those from subcontinents are lower. years of experience will be secondary to your nationality.

you are allowed to insert IV lines in the Phils. It is not solely the job of a doctor..it depends on the hospital. In most other places, IV insertion is done by nurses, so is catheterization and NGT insertion. the work of the nurses in the phils is very light compared to the work that nurses do in other countries. nurses always say that its not their job to do this and that, and always call the doctor (ROD, intern, clerk) to do it. some can't even do simple pain assessment and have to call a doctor , even though there is standing prn order for pain medication. so i can see why it might be hard for a newly grad/inexperienced RN to integrate into the US way of nursing..and they always think don't worry the hospital will train you, but the hospital can only do so much, it will also depend on how fast the nurse can learn..

Safety issues - its relatively safe in Saudi. You'll experience safety problems when you're out of the hospital compound, that's why there's always safety in numbers, go out with fellow Pinoys (can't mingle outside with Pinays or any female you're not related to).. NCLEX, IELTS - For Saudi application, this does not really matter because they have no use for it. Arabic is their primary language, English their second, they don't require IELTS anyway. Visa retrogression - With your priority date, you'll probably be waiting for 5 yrs or more - approx. 9900 visas for Pinoys yearly available - nurses, teachers, other eb3, those of us waiting to adjust status, + dependents..and they're only processing 2005 now, plus economy down, hospitals closing, employers backing out. Don't expect much to happen to your case within the next 2 yrs. Lots of people ahead of you waiting..this may sound disappointing, but this is the reality. Delegation - Group of employers from Saudi - MOH to do screening, interviewing and such.. Passports - The employer will get your passport and give you an "iquama", or residential id, the most important thing for an expatriate to have. This is for safekeeping and they do need your passport to apply for the iqama. The hospitals usually have a section where they keep all the passports..no need to worry about this.. Saudi is a good place to get experience - lots of new cases, modern equipment - you won't have to improvise like they do in the Phils..its an adventure, it also teaches you to be tough. hehe

there's a lot of competition for nursing jobs in manila. you can do a search here and see that a lot of registered nurses even 2007 board passers are still unemployed or waiting for calls from hospitals.it is also expensive, and tiring trying to find a nursing job in manila. i'd suggest that you work in the provincial hospitals first, gain experience and then apply somewhere else, not necessarily manila, even abroad. as for your parents, i think they will understand when you eventually leave them. parents only want the best for their children, and i guess one of the reasons that they see you being a nurse is that you will eventually go abroad, since the chances of your finding a job abroad is big. good luck!

i'd suggest that you continue to go to the interview with the agency first. see what happens, what they offer, benefits - then decide. you might regret some things in the future like what could have happened if i went to the interview. you won't lose anything anyway if you go and interview. good luck

i've worked in saudi and i haven't heard of a LPN position available there. they have one which is PCT - patient care technician. these people graduated from bachelor of science in nursing but are not licensed. saudi also doesn't have exams for LPN, i know that the MOH has one for RNs.

usually no, you cannot bring your family. there is no family status for filipino nurses, from what i know. doctors, however, can bring their families. the employer will sponsor you and if you want to bring your family there, you will have to find sponsors for them or you will have to ask your employer to help sponsor them. after you get permission from your hospital, you will have to have a certain salary range and you have to be employed in the hospital for a couple of months. then you will have to pay for their visas which are a bit expensive. they cannot stay with you in your accomodations if the one assigned to you is for single status. UAE usually has family status for nurses. the family can join the nurses there after a couple of months. but from what i know, this is not done in saudi. its hard for them to follow

congrats pretty neirelle...good luck on your journey and thank you for sharing your experience. God bless!

a bit off topic but.. http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/pinoy-migration/10/11/08/%E2%80%98jpepa-lowers-labor-standards-pinoy-nurses-caregivers%E2%80%99the Philippines Senate ratified JPEPA, which will allow, among others, nurses and caregivers to work in Japan after getting language training. For nurses, they will first work and get paid as trainees while preparing for the nursing licensure exam in the Japanese language. If they fail to pass the exam within a three-year period, they will have to return to the Philippines.

that's the problem with the philippines, they always show on tv, that this country needs nurses, so everyone encourages their children to take up nursing.they think that after graduating you can go to this country and earn so much money.but the reality is before they even become registered nurses, they have a lot of obstacles. language, culture, fees for registering with the BON, english exams and so on. they say japan is open - but the nurses won't be working as nurses yet, they have to pass the japanese nursing exams, learn the language and culture and i don't think that you can learn all this in a couple of months. the govt is very misleading

crnbc would be the most reliable source on what to do..the sites given haven't updated their websites, whereas crnbc has implemented lots of changes already..

yes, form 11 is not only for canadians, but it is only found in their application package. for IEN, form 11 will be sent by the CRNBC once they find you eligible to take CRNE. Application package was updated April 2008..