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Here is some needed info as I have heard it: Students with all pre-reqs completed are considered first. Science and Math grades and scores on the TEAS are weighed the heaviest, should be 70% or higher on the TEAS in order to compete. I would recommend no lower than 3.75, 3 As 1 B in the Sciences. There are easily 100+ students with all As in the Sciences. I have known a few to get in with 1 B in the Sciences and one alternate who got in with 2 Bs in the Sciences. They really like for everyone to have the pre-reqs completed because there is really no time to complete them while in Nursing School. Then, you get to graduation and can't graduate beause you still need PE or something. That really upsets them, so it is important to have all pre-reqs done before applying. It is not required to apply, but 95% required to get accepted. Have all of your shots done and up to date. They do the math and if your Hep B shot series will not be completed by the first day of class, you application gets kicked out. There are set times between the first, second and third Hep B shots and the doctors won't give it until the correct amount of time has passed. For example, if you get the 3rd dose on August 30th and school starts on August 27th, you are out. Even though it is only 3 days, it shows a lack or time management and responsibility and it is held against your application. TB tests must be done yearly. I suggest re-taking the TEAS (Be careful - make sure you study and improve on your science and math skills before you take it. You can only take it twice and that's it, whatever you get on the 2nd test is your permanant score, even if it is lower than the first one). Also, retake the science classes as necessary to get up to 3 As and 1 B. Also, they say soon, College Algebra will be required to apply. Don't know when, but it will come to pass. Best of luck.

It must be a California thing. Come to Texas - nurse positions are everywhere here. I know folks fired on the spot after their first interview.

At Tarrant County College (TCC), the school this thread is about, prior medical experience is not considered, and is stated so in the application packet. Science Grades, GPA, TEAS Score and Pre Reqs Completed are the top things looked at. Also, very soon, probably by Fall 2009, College Algebra will be required to even apply, so start taking it now. This news was given at a recent orientation at TCC.

I would start by probably by getting a lawyer. Probably cost you around $300, but it would be worth it. Your last attorney should have asked for that at sentencing. Most do for Class C Mistys. Good Luck.

I know a 4.0 student with all prereqs completed who did not get in TCC a few semesters back, as all 100 applicants who turned in their applications before her were accepted first. If you have over 100 4.0 students, then they go by submission date. I got in with a 3.91 but know folks that semester who did not get in with a 3.6. This semester, someone got in with a 3.5, so it all just depends on the pool of applicants who apply when you do. The girl with the 3.5 by the way did so on her 4th attempt, so by not giving up, she finally got in.

Depends on the pool. Sometimes you can and sometimes you can't get in with Bs. I know a couple folks who got in with 2 Bs in the sciences. I also know someone with 4 As in the sciences, an 85% on the Teas and a 4.0 GPA who did not get in a few semesters back, but she got in the 2nd time she applied. So, it just depends on the scores everyone has and how many of the prereqs you have done. Students with all the prereqs completed compete better than those who don't. Even a 1 credit PE class can keep you out if 100 folks have everything completed.

Petition the court to have it removed. If you have no other offenses they should grant your petition if 3 years have passed.

I say go to Tarrant County College (TCC) for their 2 year ADN program, then transfer to UTA for 2 more semesters for the BSN. That is my plan. B

Again, it all depends on the application pool. Sometimes, a pool does not have all As in the sciences. In my pool, only one person got in with 2 Bs in the Sciences, and she was an Alternate who got lucky because a pregnant person dropped out. The Spring '09 pool was different, as I now know 3 people who got in with 2 Bs in the Sciences. A few pools back, I know a girl who had a 4.0, all As and every pre-req was completed, and she did not get in because apparently 100 people also had all As in the Sciences and a higher Teas Score than she, and she had an 82. So, it all just depends on the application pool. Always do apply because you never know. Just remember, to do the best you can do and try to get As in the Sciences because they are weighed the heaviest.

I had only 1 A&P question, zero Microbiology, 4 Chemistry, and lots of life, earth, and general science. Math is thru Algegra and Geometry, but no higher. Reading is reading passages and answering questions, and English is mostly parts of sentences and spelling, as well as forms of words, like their, they're and there. Your biggest hurtle is not having completed Microbiology yet. I would advise completing everything before you apply, including Eng. II. However, Microbiology is a biggie. Even if you are taking it when you apply, they will not count it as completed. It is almost impossible to get in without having all the points from the sciences, as they are weighed the heaviest. I know one person who did it, but she was an alternate, and got in the day before class started because someone dropped out for another school's program. Best of luck!

The first time I applied, I had 3 As, each in Micro, A&P I and II, and a B in Chem. I had a 3.79 GPA and an 80% on the Teas and did not get in. I had all the prereqs finished as well as the immunizations. The 2nd time I applied, I had retaken the Chem and got an A, raised my GPA to 3.89, kept my same Teas score, and I got in. Like I said, it all depends on the applicant pool at the time you apply. It's like a box of chocolates, they never know what or how many they are going to get. My friend had 3 As in Sciences and 1 B in Micro. She had a 78 on Teas and a 3.79 GPA and she did not get in the first time she applied, but she did the 2nd time, and she did not change anything except the date on the application. So you just never know, so always do your best.

I believe if the nurses who are doing the training have nothing for the student nurses to do, they should dismiss them for the day. Students could use the extra study time in a library somewhere, not at the hospital where they are underfoot. Students do not want to be hanging around the nurses's station or lounging around, but sometimes there is nothing else to do, or no where else to go. In addition, students are told to observe the professional nurses, which means the activities at the nurses station and conversations business related over the phone. Instructors should not be dropping the students off and leaving them there unattended, relying on busy nurses to police them for six hours. The students should get in there, do their required business for the day, and anything else thrown at them. When tasks run thin, they should be sent home. Then, we would not have this problem.

I was not the original poster of this thread. I said clearly that is what I find hard to believe, based on the other posts and the original post in this thread. However, I have heard it from too many people for there not to be some truth to it. I am glad you are the exception. The older nurse thread was started by someone else, so don't blame me.

It is the part about them not wanting to share their knowledge with new nurses that bothers me. Maybe they are afraid they will lose their jobs if the new nurses learn what they know. Ageism is everywhere in society, but has no business in the medical arena. Patient care is most important, as well as team work and accountability. They say seasoned nurses eat their young. That's really too bad. They have so much to offer.

Next time, just call Medicare, state, or whomever the proper authority is, and have them come out for a surprise inspection. That way, only supervisors are to blame.

Some teachers require the care plans to be done at the hospital, and even the dosage calculations exams are done at the hospital. I think that is just silly. The care plans should be done at home and the dosage calculations exams at the school.

Scheffer is teaching College Algebra Summer II at NE Campus. He is the best, and I highly recommend him. I looked and he has 3 openings left.

TCC South did offer a non-credit Pharmacology class Summer I. A friend of mine took it. I don't know if they have it Summer II or not. Pedi Math is the hardest thing about it. Last semester, 14 folks failed and were chucked out, according to what I heard from someone who passed it. They have to restart the next time it is offered. Good luck!

Txgrlnad, you are the first person I know who got in with 3 Bs in Sciences. Congrats to you. Bs are a great grade in those very hard science classes and you should be proud. I have known people who had 3 As and 1 B, and one person who had 4 As who did not get in in past semesters, but that person was not through with P.E. yet. I do know they are starting to look at those who are finished with everything first, starting with Fall '08, and every application period is different, based on how many applicants and how the scores stack up. There were under 400 applicants for Fall '08 compared to 700 - 1000 in most semesters. The more people who apply, the higher the grades need to be. However, in the next couple of application periods, I believe there will be less applicants who qualify to apply, due to the new College Algebra Rule (if they don't change their minds about it). Alot of folks taking nursing pre-reqs don't have or have avoided that class, since it was not required before.

My advice to your daughter is to take only one science at a time, and to take as many other classes online as possible. The sciences are a full-time job, as they have a lab. Especially A&P I, and II, as most of the learning is done outside the classroom. She will have both lecture and lab exams. I would not take A&P at the NE Campus. There are no really good teachers for that subject there. I would have her take Adams at SE Campus in the morning for A&P I and II, or Mark Pulse at SE Campus on Saturdays only for A&P II. At NE, the only prof. I can recommend is Kirsch, but she does not teach every semester. If her name is on the list at NE, she is a good professor to have there. All of the others are not good, and believe their mission is to weed out the people they think would not make good nurses. Schluter at NE is OK for Chemistry, very fair and if she tells him she needs an A due to nursing, he will help her all he can to make sure she gets it, but she will need to work hard. Matthaii or Lawson at NE are good for Microbiology. Matthaii is a little easier, but Lawson is more new school and I liked him alot. Tell your daughter that it is 100% important that she makes A Grades in Chem 1406, A&P I and II, and at least a B in Microbiology, but an A is better. I know lots of folks in the program and others who applied for the past few semesters, and no one I know with less than As in the top 3 sciences got in. She only needs C or above to apply that is true, but she needs As to actually get in, as there are too many applicants competing each semester. Also, don't actually apply until all the prereqs are completed. They don't count any class you are in at the time you apply. Also, due to so many people applying, only the top 100 with everything done already are chosen. I know a guy who did not get in with a 4.0, just because he had not completed his P.E. Class yet. He got in the 2nd time he applied with no problem. Also, starting next semester, to apply, you must have completed College Algebra with a C or better to apply. I recommend Patel for it. They say you only need about a 3.10 GPA to get in, but I don't know anyone under a 3.7 who has gotten in. A good GPA, especially in the sciences is a must. 3 As and 1 B in the Sciences is a 3.75 for those four classes. Always, the top 100 have at least that and get in. She will spend a ton of time in the Science Learning Center for both A&P Classes. You cannot pass the lab exams without it. Also, tell her to form or get into study groups. It makes learning much easier than doing it on her own. Good luck to her!

Depending on the number of applicants, which is usually alot, this much is a fact. All pre-reqs need to be finished before you apply. If you are still in the class when you apply, the class is not counted. For example, if you are in Micro in the fall, and apply in the fall for Spring, the Micro class does not count, and you will not get in. It is a must to have an A in General/Organic Chem, and A&P I, and II, and you can get in with a B in Micro. The first three are a must due to the competition, so if you don't have A's in those three and at least a B in Micro, take them over before you apply. Students who have all the other reqs. completed will have a better chance of getting in than those who don't. I have known people who had everything except P.E. with all A's and did not get in because of that 1 credit P.E. class. Also, starting this Fall, with applications for Spring Entry, all applicants must have College Algebra completed in order to apply. The grade must be at least a C. The C 2.0 gpa will not count against your gpa for admissions, but it must be checked off as completed. This is a new policy at TCC. I have known folks who got in with a TEAS score of 72, with higher grades in the sciences and math portions, as they weigh heavier for selection. Brush up on your high school and middle school science, "General, Life, Planets, Plants, etc" as those are on the test. The TEAS exam study guide sold in the book store is useless, save your money. A&P - avoid all NE Campus profs. Adams, Fugere, and Pulse at SE are the best and give the best grades. Either Mathaii or Lawson at NE are good for Micro. Duane Schluter at NE or Dollar at one of the campus', don't remember which one are great for Chemistry. Avoid Jacaruso for A&P at all costs. She starts with 42 students and by the end, has about 7 left with C's. TCC does not give bonus points at all, not for Medical Terminology, Pharmacology, or anything as of Fall '07. Good luck to all. The person who said they are taking Micro in the Fall and applying for Spring Entry, you will be disqualified in the first round if you do not finish Micro by the Summer II session. If you are currently enrolled in the class when you apply, it will not count, and Micro is a must, even though it is not required to apply - it is a must to actually get in.

Depending on the number of applicants, which is usually alot, this much is a fact. All pre-reqs need to be finished before you apply. If you are still in the class when you apply, the class is not counted. For example, if you are in Micro in the fall, and apply in the fall for Spring, the Micro class does not count, and you will not get in. It is a must to have an A in General/Organic Chem, and A&P I, and II, and you can get in with a B in Micro. The first three are a must due to the competition, so if you don't have A's in those three and at least a B in Micro, take them over before you apply. Students who have all the other reqs. completed will have a better chance of getting in than those who don't. I have known people who had everything except P.E. with all A's and did not get in because of that 1 credit P.E. class. Also, starting this Fall, with applications for Spring Entry, all applicants must have College Algebra completed in order to apply. The grade must be at least a C. The C 2.0 gpa will not count against your gpa for admissions, but it must be checked off as completed. This is a new policy at TCC. I have known folks who got in with a TEAS score of 72, with higher grades in the sciences and math portions, as they weigh heavier for selection. Brush up on your high school and middle school science, "General, Life, Planets, Plants, etc" as those are on the test. The TEAS exam study guide sold in the book store is useless, save your money. A&P - avoid all NE Campus profs. Adams, Fugere, and Pulse at SE are the best and give the best grades. Either Mathaii or Lawson at NE are good for Micro. Duane Schluter at NE or Dollar at one of the campus', don't remember which one are great for Chemistry. Avoid Jacaruso for A&P at all costs. She starts with 42 students and by the end, has about 7 left with C's.

Depending on the number of applicants, which is usually alot, this much is a fact. All pre-reqs need to be finished before you apply. If you are still in the class when you apply, the class is not counted. For example, if you are in Micro in the fall, and apply in the fall for Spring, the Micro class does not count, and you will not get in. It is a must to have an A in General/Organic Chem, and A&P I, and II, and you can get in with a B in Micro. The first three are a must due to the competition, so if you don't have A's in those three and at least a B in Micro, take them over before you apply. Students who have all the other reqs. completed will have a better chance of getting in than those who don't. I have known people who had everything except P.E. with all A's and did not get in because of that 1 credit P.E. class. Also, starting this Fall, with applications for Spring Entry, all applicants must have College Algebra completed in order to apply. The grade must be at least a C. The C 2.0 gpa will not count against your gpa for admissions, but it must be checked off as completed. This is a new policy at TCC. I have known folks who got in with a TEAS score of 72, with higher grades in the sciences and math portions, as they weigh heavier for selection. Brush up on your high school and middle school science, "General, Life, Planets, Plants, etc" as those are on the test. The TEAS exam study guide sold in the book store is useless, save your money. A&P - avoid all NE Campus profs. Adams, Fugere, and Pulse at SE are the best and give the best grades. Either Mathaii or Lawson at NE are good for Micro. Duane Schluter at NE or Dollar at one of the campus', don't remember which one are great for Chemistry. Avoid Jacaruso for A&P at all costs. She starts with 42 students and by the end, has about 7 left with C's.