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I am glad you put this article on the board, I will pass it on to some of my young corpsman and medics looking to enhance thier careers on the outside. Another route is an EMS degree program, but you still have to get the necessary prerequisite for the nursing programs out there. I really appreciate your post and like I SAID i WILL PASS THIS ON, THIS IS THE ANSWER I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR!!! Thank you

I like you post but I am looking for a program that will help folks while they are still in, and maybe the military is already working to that end, but I don't think so.

That is a great answer, but what I would like to see is an educational format for the military all around to help medics, corpsman and such to achieve the theory, practice, and preparation to prepare for the NCLEX. The Army has an LPN program, but the navy and the air force don't. I just think there needs to be an educational format towards the lvn level. Still I get the license part, it is really the educational part that may need work on the government end to prepare these guys for civilian sector. Just in case anyone wanted to know, I am an lvn going to rn who's just trying to help others get as far as I have.

Once again, I get the licensing part and you are right about that, but if you may happen to another way to evaluate education toward LVN/LPN and or the 2 year ADN programs without trying to accelerate, but just being prepared for the programs around the nation; I would be grateful and then I WOULD BE THANKFUL!!

First of all no one is talking about licensing I am talking about education, second of all I really don't need you to think me for my service because if it weren't for some great nurses out there I wouldn't have the experience i got as a medic!!, Third of all I think you miss read me. I know about the licensing part i just want to know if there is another way to measure training nationwide. so no I really DON"T NEED your thinks just another way to format and transfer education. Thanks but no thanks!!

That is what is meant by performing outside of the box to some

I am not going to say that we do more than nurses or anything of that nature, but as an Army Medic or Doc i will say we do quite a bit. RNs in the army run a patient hold which can be from 72 hours up to 3 days depending upon the Area of Operation. I as a SSG, and MEDIC not RN found myself in charge of one for 13 month as well as walking the line with my fellow worrier. I will have to say that I agree with FMFDevilPerry as I was also a former Marine Rifle, who located and closed with the enemy while others rest at home. I will not rant because i have a great admiration and respect for the Nursing community and will be joining that community very soon. The only thing I have always wondered is this: The nursing field has always seem to be understaffed and yet with the extremely large pool of medics and corpsman to pick from you would think the country or someone would come up with a plan to alleviate this situation instead of telling us military folk about our training and nursing theory. I respect the notion that nurses feel we need to have a full grip of what and why we do the various types of patient care, but don't you think some has told us, because a good medic corpsman follows the orders of his PA, MD, NP, etc..., and asks questions also. Did you know that we do after action or lessons learned briefings also. I believe this fmfdevilperry could tell some RN a great deal as the same goes for RN's the him. So when are those powers that be gonna start shaking the military medicine bowl for some of us good corpsman, medics and med-techs to come on over to the other side of the field and put our skills to use. "The only thing I ask of you is knowledge. "

I don't know the real answer, but I think it would depend on the state in which you reside; if some of the professionals on this site could lend I would appreciate it.

But how often could a military medic be asked to provide humanitarian assistance or happen upon civilians while on operations that require help??? I thought we did humanitarian missions, and some the missions we do most definitely involve the local populace. We do a lot overseas , and are allowed to do very little here in our own country; unless a natural disaster is involved.

Thank you very much, the input I am receiving here is great. Please do not be offended by my odd research tactics, but it is necessary to do so in order to write a point paper as you all know. So if I in anyway offended anyone my most sincerest apologies to you and the profession which I so highly respect. I hope to keep getting the input from you all and will be able to continue my work toward some most needed improvements the 68W training. Soon the Army, Navy, and Air Force will combine medical training and I would like to have a stand point from your point of view, so I'll be posting more questions and looking for great answers! Thank you all for your participation!!

Thank you all very much, I appreciate you help and the information you have offered. I have been checking around the area, I just got here to Fort Sam Houston in July of 2008. I was just trying to get outside info because I get so tied up at work. Thank you all once again.

I believe I was looking at something more on a traditional path. And you are not listening because I have said many times that I understood one needed those classes, but how could I create a program to satisfy all those requirements for the non m6 medics that want to be an RN later. I know you understand that medics know the basics, offering a soldier the other prerequisites now that's something different. You are giving me good info, but I want to create a better program. Give me some time and I'll download a sample to you. I'll even have some the RNs I work with look over it. Sound like a deal!?!

Lucky1RN what I was trying to say before the other person answered was in the last post. I was looking for a program that bring the basic medic, corpsman, or med tech up to par with prenursing skills or something close to at the very least LVN skills. That person thought I wanted to take a medic and turn them into an RN overnight. I thank you for taking the time to respond back and well as the other responses I received from GilaRN. Trust me your responses are all noted, but that is why I am here to pick your brains for good sound advice. I guess I kept hearing how we needed nurses, and thought what a pool to pick from. I figured through assessments and proper education, I'd hoped to come up with an idea to produce folks that could get an LVN or LPN License and move on to RN later if they so desired.

Guy I was talking on the pre nursing and LVN levels in preparation to RN. Is that so presumptuous. I mean if a kid doesn't go to the M6 course because at that time they think to do so, it would be kind of cool if they could go to an assessment type program to see where they are as far as their LVN or Pre Nursing core requirements are instead of just getting 14 credits. I come to this site for answers and I you like you want to bite my head off. Just listen to what I am saying, because maybe you have the answer or am I looking in the wrong place for answers.

With the exception of you as an IDMT, every MT I speak to in the Air Force wishes they could get to do what we do as medics. Form what I have seen of some nursing programs NAs CNAs and MAs get more of an edge then we do. I maybe wrong in my thinkng, but I am aware of the pharmacology, A&P and Chemistry along with the theory of nursing that you must have. I must have been search all the wrong programs, just think about all the training you received, and it's worth and zI think you you know what I am getting at. I mean yeah the army does have a 68WM6 program, but I keep seeing them in level 3 MTFs and higher which is right, but you and I are doing the same job as them and "can't get a break" do see what I mean know. I told the last person that I understood there was more to nursing then most think, but what I am talking about is a program to bring your average medic up to that level when they depart from service. I once had a LtCol and Maj Both PAs speak with me about a senior medic course, my response was Paramedic, the reply was you see any paramedics running the show here? I got what they meant. The training you receive in the W1, 18D, and Pararescue Programs only warrant you so much, because some civilian educators don't understand rapid need for us on the battle field and in the units, yeah we get our A&P and Parm pretty quick down and dirty, but that doesnt mean we are so far removed from what an LVN does to some degree, I think you know I am fairly right in what I am saying considering you and I have similiar backgrounds.